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Bazooka-Joe - 13 May 2007 06:23 GMT After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last few months I've put on 15 lbs and am now above goal again for the first time in months. I finally stepped on a scale after a big dinner tonight. I freaked. My scale's not very accurate but I from what it reads that I've GOT to be 15 lbs over. Nearly cried. I'm a little panicked I think. Haven't even been in this NG for...I don't know...6 months. Not sure what to do. Back to WW and weekly meetings? Just get back on program without meetings? Can I trust myself to do it without the accountability.
I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!
:Bazooka-Joe Willow Herself - 13 May 2007 06:27 GMT Get your behind in the first meeting you can find!
Until then, relax, You know the program, you know what to do. Take a deep breath, take out your week one book, read it again, and start fresh and new..
You're not the only one, we've all been there, but guess what? You caught yourself 15lbs up... not 67 and more...
No need to panick, it's just a wake up call... so wake up, and walk the walk!
You don't get any activity points for beating yourself up... deep breath, welcome home!
Will~
> After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making > goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > :Bazooka-Joe Kate XXXXXX - 13 May 2007 09:42 GMT > After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making > goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > :Bazooka-Joe Go back to meetings and weigh in every week if you have to! I do, even though I've been at or close to goal (within my margin for error) ever since. It keeps me good. :)
And welcome home! Hey - you've only got 15lbs to lose! You *KNOW* you can do that! ;)
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tanukiki - 13 May 2007 12:11 GMT Hey guy! You and I started about the same time and now we can restart at about the same time. Go to a meeting - trust me. I am back on plan for a week now. I never made it to goal (only half way) and managed to regain all but 2.4 pounds so you are still way ahead of me and even I feel like it's manageable for me to do it (with the support of meetings and the great folks on here). Tanukiki (aka Jenn)
> After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making > goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > :Bazooka-Joe Stormmee - 13 May 2007 16:41 GMT back to what you know works, Lee, glad you are freaking early
> After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making > goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > :Bazooka-Joe George - 13 May 2007 20:19 GMT Being in a rut where one "has to" attend WW meetings to maintain weight involves life-long struggling. People who remain thin naturally, however, do so because they don't crave food.
There are no "naturally thin" people, but there are people whose natural behavior keeps them at normal weight. Genes help, but anyone who overeats will become overweight. Weight control is all about attitude and mental conditioning.
Give serious consideration to the mental attitude solution to eliminate food cravings. Millions of normal-weight people prove that this works, without paying for weightloss memberships.
> After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making > goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > :Bazooka-Joe Gary G - 14 May 2007 00:32 GMT I'm sure you feel bad and probably very mad at yourself...So move past and get back on track...You have already made the first step by becoming aware of the situation..My guess is that you really knew but had not consciously dealt with it...I worry about the same thing happening to me...I'm 1.2 lbs from goal...I have already had the accolades stop and many know me only as thin...Having never been thin or even close to normal my entire life I am well aware that the deeper me remains overweight and I will never be able to let down my guard...Move forward Joe and stop beating yourself up...All journeys have rough spots...And I think you need to get back to meetings...In fact some of us may never be able to leave...GG
> After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making > goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > :Bazooka-Joe spaceyjane - 14 May 2007 05:19 GMT Sorry that you find yourself sad inside... been there for sure. You're taking an awesome step in just acknolwedging what's going on and assessing the situation! I also recently went back to the meetings after being out for over 6 months and gaining all but 2 lbs. back. It's a hard place to be emotionally, but seriously, once I went back to a meeting, I felt so relieved and refocussed. For me, the accountability is really important, as well as the weekly time to reassess how the week went, what I did and did not do, etc... as well as I get really motivated by being around others on the same journey as I am and who can speak into these struggles I face and truly know what I'm talking about!
You'll be ok Joe! Nice to meet you & keep posting! : ) smiles, monica
> After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making > goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > :Bazooka-Joe Stormmee - 14 May 2007 06:16 GMT very well put, Lee
> Sorry that you find yourself sad inside... been there for sure. You're > taking an awesome step in just acknolwedging what's going on and assessing [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > > > :Bazooka-Joe Eddie-Type2 - 15 May 2007 21:28 GMT Hey Joe,
I just recently starting reposting as well. It's good to see you back!
It's utterly amazing to see how fast the pounds can creep back on! I was up 20 lbs since Christmas - I know how you are feeling...........
Hang in there............you know what you have to do, so do it! I know you can!
Eddie Weight June05-359.0lbs Current Weight-289.2lbs Loss to date=69.8lbs Goal Weight-180.0lbs
After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last few months I've put on 15 lbs and am now above goal again for the first time in months. I finally stepped on a scale after a big dinner tonight. I freaked. My scale's not very accurate but I from what it reads that I've GOT to be 15 lbs over. Nearly cried. I'm a little panicked I think. Haven't even been in this NG for...I don't know...6 months. Not sure what to do. Back to WW and weekly meetings? Just get back on program without meetings? Can I trust myself to do it without the accountability.
I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!
:Bazooka-Joe ahmward - 16 May 2007 01:48 GMT Joe, just start where you left off. Go to a meeting, track your points and everything else. It's not a matter of trusting yourself but if you go to meetings, you will probably be more accountable. I have been attending meetings faithfully for several years. When I quit meetings, I quit being aware of what I am doing.
This is a lifetime journey with ups and downs. Don't beat yourself up. Gaining 15 is not like regaining your 67 plus more so just go back to the program and pick up where you left off.
Audrey
> After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making > goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > :Bazooka-Joe Laura - 16 May 2007 12:58 GMT Welcome back. I found that I need the meetings too. We have several Lifetime members that attend/WI each week because they feel the same way.
> After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making > goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > :Bazooka-Joe Karen Officer - 16 May 2007 16:36 GMT I know I still go to the weekly, and have been at lifetime for 13 months. I still get a lot out of the meetings. Karen O
>Welcome back. I found that I need the meetings too. We have several Lifetime >members that attend/WI each week because they feel the same way. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> :Bazooka-Joe joni - 21 May 2007 18:46 GMT > I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN! You may say that, but without scrutinizing the whys behind your recent weight gain, you are doomed to repeat it over and over again. Why would you continue to eat/indulge/large dinners etc when you KNOW thats the road back to packing on the pounds? Once in awhile swiftly becomes and everyday habit again. Is it simply self-sabotage? Is it denial? Usually, those who keep the weight off make certain decisions to change things about their lifestyle, while those who gain it all back just cant take that leap and continually go back to habits they know are self destructive. So I think there is alot to be said for fixing ones head with an introspective look before you begin WW again. Plot the next two weeks to set small goals, clean up your eating, increase your exercise and then reweigh yourself. I think you'll be surprised that alot of the temporary bloat is gone. Going to WW meetings, posting in groups etc are all good support (dont get me wrong here) but if you dont have the 'faith' to do it for yourself(to know you have the inner strength), its kind of like sinning outside of church. You know you shouldnt but you do anyways. It all comes down to you and the choices you make and not solely relying on the support of others to somehow 'make' you change temporarily, gaining it back, and then running back to them to remanage your eating habits again and again. Kind of like a vicious cycle. (Been there done that!) You have to make your own checks and balances and decide that you want this to be a permanent change for the better. WW has given you the nutritional education base you needed at one time, its up to you to implement it and stick with it.
joanne
Stormmee - 22 May 2007 03:33 GMT I thought that is what he said he was doing, Lee
> > I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN! > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > joanne George - 22 May 2007 05:35 GMT Right on, Joanne! Mental attitude and commitment to a healthy lifestyle are all that are necessary. But continuous mental focus on proper lifestyle is difficult, so weak-minded people choose to follow the WW creed, instead.
WW is all about meetings, points, and eating harmful foods "in moderation" to satisfy those cravings. Oh, and about collecting membership fees, of course.
Can you imagine that a WW member (above) posted that drinking water was such a struggle??!! And take a look at www.weightwatchers.com: much of their Website is glitzy pictures of food! Make no mistake: WW is a for-profit operation, first and foremost. Actual weightloss is second priority.
"The points-based plans (like WW) control portion size by allowing calories that should be consumed on healthy food with very small portions of potentially unhealthy food. This strategy gives the dieter a false sense of the real nutritional changes they need to make in their lives for long-term success. If one seriously wants to lose weight and keep it off in the long-term, they need to think more comprehensively about the foods they eat. The program does not put a priority on exercise, which is essential. Long-term group therapy impedes the development of self-reliance and self-discipline, which is clearly the most important trait in those 5% of dieters who succeed in the long-term. Although Weight Watchers is an average diet program, you'll see way better results with today's top diets like Nutrisystem and Medifast." http://www.top10z.com/weight-loss-diets/review-diet.php?ID=25&kwid=3-ww
The unvoiced WW motto is "There's a sucker born every minute - keep those fees coming in." WW cleverly appeals to the desire of overweight people to continue their addiction to fattening food and to avoid strenuous exercise, despite their common sense. Did you know that a large food producer owned WW for two decades? Now, tell me, why would a food producer want to own WW?
The result of this victimization of members, sadly, can be seen in the many postings in this NG by WW members who experience yo-yo weight fluctuations throughout their lives.
>> I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN! > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > joanne Laura - 22 May 2007 12:57 GMT If you are so anti-WW then what are you doing posting in this group? We come for support. Not negative feelings toward the program.
GO AWAY!!!
> Right on, Joanne! Mental attitude and commitment to a healthy lifestyle > are all that are necessary. But continuous mental focus on proper [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] >> >> joanne Willow Herself - 22 May 2007 21:27 GMT Hmmm
Who is it that told me not to feed the trolls I wonder... Will~
> If you are so anti-WW then what are you doing posting in this group? We > come for support. Not negative feelings toward the program. [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >>> >>> joanne Laura - 22 May 2007 23:51 GMT ooppsss! <g>
> Hmmm > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >>>> >>>> joanne Willow Herself - 23 May 2007 01:27 GMT ;op
> ooppsss! <g> > [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] >>>>> >>>>> joanne Bazooka-Joe - 22 May 2007 16:14 GMT > Right on, Joanne! Mental attitude and commitment to a healthy lifestyle are > all that are necessary. But continuous mental focus on proper lifestyle is [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Holy cow. When did this group become so full of pseudo-spiritual, touchy-feely, psycho analysts? Addressing my lifestyle? Find my inner dieter? It's really easy to sit on a high-horse from your comfortable computer terminal wherever you're at and spout generalizations, stereotypes, and blanket statements without siting any sort of reliable source, link to a scientific journal, or even so much as an expert blog opinion.
In case the title of the newsgroup wasn't clear, this group is for WW members to support each other. I'm no longer a member, I'm an ex- member (an ex-member that as of today is back down to his original goal weight thank you very much). Say what you want about the program...I realize it's not for everybody. For those it is for, it works. It's a free country, so post whatever you want. But don't be surprised to get negative feedback as you misuse the this group for your own rantings.
And if you're a troll, then yeah, I fell for it. I fed a troll. Troll's gotta eat to, right? Oh that's right, you don't need food anymore since you've developed your self-reliance. Good luck with that.
:Bazooka-Joe ahmward - 22 May 2007 18:17 GMT George is our self-appointed group troll. Ignore him. End of story.
Audrey
>> Right on, Joanne! Mental attitude and commitment to a healthy >> lifestyle are [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] > > :Bazooka-Joe George - 22 May 2007 19:38 GMT Yes, if WW is working for you, by all means stay with it!
> George is our self-appointed group troll. Ignore him. > End of story. [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] >> >> :Bazooka-Joe Bazooka-Joe - 22 May 2007 20:06 GMT > Right on, Joanne! Mental attitude and commitment to a healthy lifestyle are > all that are necessary. But continuous mental focus on proper lifestyle is [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Holy cow. When did this group become so full of pseudo-spiritual, touchy-feely, psycho analysts? Addressing my lifestyle? Find my inner dieter? It's really easy to sit on a high-horse from your comfortable computer terminal wherever you're at and spout generalizations, stereotypes, and blanket statements without siting any sort of reliable source, link to a scientific journal, or even so much as an expert blog opinion.
In case the title of the newsgroup wasn't clear, this group is for WW members to support each other. I'm no longer a member, I'm an ex- member (an ex-member that as of today is back down to his original goal weight thank you very much). Say what you want about the program...I realize it's not for everybody. For those it is for, it works. It's a free country, so post whatever you want. But don't be surprised to get negative feedback as you misuse the this group for your own rantings.
And if you're a troll, then yeah, I fell for it. I fed a troll. Troll's gotta eat to, right? Oh that's right, you don't need food anymore since you've developed your self-reliance. Good luck with that.
:Bazooka-Joe Bazooka-Joe - 22 May 2007 20:15 GMT > Right on, Joanne! Mental attitude and commitment to a healthy lifestyle are > all that are necessary. But continuous mental focus on proper lifestyle is [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Holy cow. When did this group become so full of pseudo-spiritual, touchy-feely, psycho analysts? Addressing my lifestyle? Find my inner dieter? It's really easy to sit on a high-horse from your comfortable computer terminal wherever you're at and spout generalizations, stereotypes, and blanket statements without siting any sort of reliable source, link to a scientific journal, or even so much as an expert blog opinion.
In case the title of the newsgroup wasn't clear, this group is for WW members to support each other. I'm no longer a member, I'm an ex- member (an ex-member that as of today is back down to his original goal weight thank you very much). Say what you want about the program...I realize it's not for everybody. For those it is for, it works. It's a free country, so post whatever you want. But don't be surprised to get negative feedback as you misuse the this group for your own rantings.
And if you're a troll, then yeah, I fell for it. I fed a troll. Troll's gotta eat to, right? Oh that's right, you don't need food anymore since you've developed your self-reliance. Good luck with that.
:Bazooka-Joe Bazooka-Joe - 21 May 2007 18:57 GMT > After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making > goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > :Bazooka-Joe So...some great news. First, if you recall I stated I'd just eaten a big meal. In fact it was the end of the day, with most or all of my clothes on including jeans. The next day on the same screwy scale after a shower in the morning it showed me 7lbs lighter. So by that indication, I'd only gained 8 pounds (if I trust my screwy scale and I don't). In the last 9 days though I've lost 4 of those 8 pounds. I'm back down below goal, and only 4 pounds from where I was ultimately. Haven't started going back to meetings. I stopped going to meetings because I found I was yo-yo-ing. Gaining throughout the month, losing when a meeting was coming up. The meetings were great when I was losing heading toward goal. But being on maintenance having a check- in time like that was/is more detramental to me I think than just staying the course and being conscious about it.
And whoever posted that there's a mental/emotional consideration with eating correctly I think is right on. For me it's boredom. I simply eat when I have nothing better to do. If I keep myself busy, I don't even have to try. Which is pretty much what happened these last 9 or so days. Thanks again to everybody for helping me through my little panic attack there. :) I find just getting it out on paper, or in the newsgroup helps me commit to shedding the excess.
:Bazooka-Joe Stormmee - 22 May 2007 03:35 GMT good for you, Lee
> > After a solid year of WW and 67 lbs of successful weight loss, making > > goal, and becoming lifetime I quit attending monthly meetings. Last [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > :Bazooka-Joe
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