Gosh we have something in common. My BMI is also normal for my weight.
> Grill?! Recipes?!
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>> Glenn B.
>> 277/240.8/199
> Grill?! Recipes?!
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> can be achieved by anyone in a way that's natural, effortless and
> self-sustaining.
But, George, everyone does still need to eat. Even with all the best
attitude and lifestyle changes, everyone still needs to eat. I don't know
about anyone else, but a healthy new recipe for chicken (or anything else)
enhances my chosen lifestyle--it doesn't set me to obsessing on food.
> It's a fact of nature that maintaining one's weight can be automatic and
> needn't be a struggle. The only fat animals are pets whose owners
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> maintain that struggle for long, which is why diet program followers
> experience yo-yo weigh fluctuations.
I agree--if your only goal is weignt loss and not a continued healthy
lifestyle once you have taken off the weight. (Been there, done that) But
a healthy lifestyle is obviously not something that is "natural" to people
who have not been living healthy. It needs to be learned. It's a process.
The goal is not weight loss in and of itself. The goal is developing the
healthy lifestyle you are talking about--and a healthy weight will be a part
of that lifestyle. By sharing our successes and failures--our experience,
strength and hope--we are living a healthy lifestyle.
> Most people on this NG have failed to control their lifestyles and
> attitudes, so instead they struggle daily to follow weight loss programs
> that benefit only the for-profit program sponsors. Are they taking the
> easy way out? Actually, NO! They are exerting huge amounts of effort!
> And those who do physical exercise to lose weight are making even more
> effort.
One way or another, George, the weight loss process needs to happen, right?
Why not make the journey with friends?
> What's easier: changing your lifestyle and attitude such that you don't
> crave food, or exercising hard for an hour or more to burn the calories
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> in life one must listen to winners and emulate them, not listen to others
> who have nothing to teach.
I'm not certain how you get that from the posts here. A lot of people have
been developing their new healthy lifestyles, and are losing the excess
weight as a result of that new lifestyle. And they are losing the excess
weight slowly, as medical studies have shown to be best. If someone is
going from 350 pounds to 120, it's going to take more than just a few
months.
> The message: change your attitude and control how you think about food.
> Think of unhealthful or too much food as harmful (as it surely is) and
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> Please don't reply. My BMI is under 24 and I have nothing to learn here.
> Just follow my advice and you'll be in the same category.
It's so good to hear that you are healthy, George. I sort of wonder why you
are reading weight loss newsgroups, though.
Willow Herself - 09 Sep 2007 23:49 GMT
you do know George is our resident troll right?
He comes and goes... nobody cares.. it's kinda sad... but.. he finds himself
interesting.. so we just let it happen.. he/she/it gets bored and leaves..
Will~
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> It's so good to hear that you are healthy, George. I sort of wonder why
> you are reading weight loss newsgroups, though.
teachrmama - 10 Sep 2007 00:58 GMT
> you do know George is our resident troll right?
>
> He comes and goes... nobody cares.. it's kinda sad... but.. he finds
> himself interesting.. so we just let it happen.. he/she/it gets bored and
> leaves..
> Will~
<chuckle> He must lead a very boring life to have such a need to come and
criticize others the way he does. Hmmmm....which would be worse: being
over weight and working hard to do something about it, or to live such an
empty life that one needs to criticize others in order to feel good about
oneself.
>>> Grill?! Recipes?!
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>> It's so good to hear that you are healthy, George. I sort of wonder why
>> you are reading weight loss newsgroups, though.
Willow Herself - 10 Sep 2007 04:03 GMT
>> you do know George is our resident troll right?
>>
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> empty life that one needs to criticize others in order to feel good about
> oneself.
No kidding.. I'll take my life over his/hers/its anytime!
Will~
Kate XXXXXX - 10 Sep 2007 09:02 GMT
>>> you do know George is our resident troll right?
>>>
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>
> Will~
Mine too - ER and pain and all! MUCH more fun than living under a
bridge grumbling all day!
I'm off to have fun with a hoover, a sewing machine, several yards of
fabric and some pretty thread... Oh, and these GIANT BUTTONS I found
the other day! Y'all have a fun day!

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Stormmee - 12 Sep 2007 08:43 GMT
what will forgot to tell you is that the entertainment value is great when
he makes the mistake of crossing Kate, Lee
> > you do know George is our resident troll right?
> >
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> >> It's so good to hear that you are healthy, George. I sort of wonder why
> >> you are reading weight loss newsgroups, though.
Glenn B. - 17 Sep 2007 07:00 GMT
There is GREAT value in the Tools and Rules section of Windows Mail...you
can block these jokers.....
Glenn B.
> what will forgot to tell you is that the entertainment value is great when
> he makes the mistake of crossing Kate, Lee
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> why
>> >> you are reading weight loss newsgroups, though.
Willow Herself - 17 Sep 2007 14:43 GMT
If we all did Kate wouln't entertain us with her answers !
Will~
> There is GREAT value in the Tools and Rules section of Windows Mail...you
> can block these jokers.....
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>> why
>>> >> you are reading weight loss newsgroups, though.