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Weight Loss Forum / WeightWatchers / October 2007points
I have a friend who cannot afford either meetings or online and I am trying to help her out by giving her links to point lists, where to print out the journal etc, but I can't figure out how to find her points target. She weighs 168 and is fairly sedentary (sits all day at her job and at evening classes). Can somebody out there help? thanks, Nance She gets: Female: 2 Age: 17-26=4 27-37=3 38-47=2 48-58=1 over 58 =0 weight: 16 (take first 2 digits) Height: under 5'1"= 0 5'1" to 5'10"=1 over 5' 10" =2 How do you spend the day: Sitting down = 0 Occasionally sitting but mainly standing = 2 Walking most of the time = 4 Doing physical hard work most of the tiem = 6  Signature~laura~ >I have a friend who cannot afford either meetings or online and I am trying >to help her out by giving her links to point lists, where to print out the >journal etc, but I can't figure out how to find her points target. She >weighs 168 and is fairly sedentary (sits all day at her job and at evening >classes). Can somebody out there help? thanks, Nance > She gets: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Walking most of the time = 4 > Doing physical hard work most of the tiem = 6 I'm sorry but I don't understand what to do with this information. Could you just tell me here base points? She's 50, sits most of the day and is about 5'7" >> She gets: >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > you just tell me here base points? She's 50, sits most of the day and is > about 5'7" she gets 2 (female) + 1 (age=50) + 16 (weight=168) + 1 (height) + 0 (sits most of the day) = 20 points per day can somebody just give me a straight answer? thanks >>> She gets: >>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > she gets 2 (female) + 1 (age=50) + 16 (weight=168) + 1 (height) + 0 > (sits most of the day) = 20 points per day I did. Reread my message carefully and you will get the answer. This is all in the first week info as well as explained online. The points calculation is not based on a single criteria anymore. It is a more complicated formula. Do you know how many point you get a day? I suggest you and your friend wait until there is Free registration and pay the $12 or 13 for the first meeting to have the entire program explained to you. It is worth the money. Signature~laura~ > can somebody just give me a straight answer? thanks > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> she gets 2 (female) + 1 (age=50) + 16 (weight=168) + 1 (height) + 0 (sits >> most of the day) = 20 points per day > I did. Reread my message carefully and you will get the answer. This is > all in the first week info as well as explained online. The points [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > pay the $12 or 13 for the first meeting to have the entire program > explained to you. It is worth the money. I found the chart online. I found the information you posted hard to follow, although I appreciate your providing it. She really cannot afford even that simple solution. She and her husband both work out of town (jobs are in short supply in our little town) which means two cars eating up gasoline, they have two kids in private school (our public schools here are nightmarish) etc etc etc and they do the best they can. I try to be a friend, help with the kids when I can etc. Then every penny they can spare goes to college funds. THere is just NOTHING left over. I have been in that situation myself, minus the kids, and, believe me, even the little amount of money she would spend that way just is not there. I would offer it, but she'd be embarrassed. I am watching a REAL auction for a used set of the materials for her. Nance As an on-line user don't you have the information for your friend?...GG >> She gets: >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > you just tell me here base points? She's 50, sits most of the day and is > about 5'7" That was going to be my point. I work for WW, I'm not giving the information my members have to pay for, for free.. and it's unfortunate that Laura gave it out. Will~ Signature"Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic." Dave Barry > As an on-line user don't you have the information for your friend?...GG > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> you just tell me here base points? She's 50, sits most of the day and is >> about 5'7" > That was going to be my point. > > I work for WW, I'm not giving the information my members have to pay for, > for free.. and it's unfortunate that Laura gave it out. > > Will~ I have mixed feelings about that. Frankly, I see weight watchers as more interested in money than in helping people change their lives. To this day I wonder why, instead of pursuing the guy who wrote WWCalc (which I have on my palm and is far more useful than anything wwers makes) they don't just BUY the software, which would be vastly helpful to so many people. Secondly, this group is not officially affiliaated with wwers and I think we should be free to say what we like in posts and, if I can help somebody who cannot afford the "help" of wwers and who needs it, I really don't CARE that others (including me) "pay for it." A LOT of us share our information with friends. But you use the program...Your attitude about stealing reflects why our society is going to fall apart...You claim to be an on-line user but suspect your asking questions for yourself...If WW in you opinion is a rip off find something you agree with...Instead you feel stealing things is OK because "you" feel it's a rip off...I'm sorry...My nephew also finds record companies are a rip off so he steals music...Maybe all this is OK with you and if I'm wrong please tell me...GG >> That was going to be my point. >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > CARE that others (including me) "pay for it." A LOT of us share our > information with friends. you know this is grounds for slander? If you are so quick to accuse people of lying, then you probably do so yourself. Yes, I am an online user and would treat my friend to it it she'd accept it. Weight Watchers, with all the value that you DO get is still a money-grubbing for-profit mill and could care less aboout you and your weight loss. They have stolen enough on their own. > But you use the program...Your attitude about stealing reflects why our > society is going to fall apart...You claim to be an on-line user but [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> I really don't CARE that others (including me) "pay for it." A LOT of >> us share our information with friends. LOL This isn't the WW boards.. go hug a monkey or something! Will~ Signature"Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic." Dave Barry > you know this is grounds for slander? > If you are so quick to accuse people of lying, then you probably do so [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >>> really don't CARE that others (including me) "pay for it." A LOT of us >>> share our information with friends. and you know even if we accept that WW is a money grubbing big corporation, two wrongs never make a right, Lee > LOL > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > >>> really don't CARE that others (including me) "pay for it." A LOT of us > >>> share our information with friends. his suspicions aren't slander, and you are being a bit harsh, Lee > you know this is grounds for slander? > If you are so quick to accuse people of lying, then you probably do so [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >> I really don't CARE that others (including me) "pay for it." A LOT of > >> us share our information with friends. >> That was going to be my point. >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > CARE that others (including me) "pay for it." A LOT of us share our > information with friends. I agree with you. WW is all about the money. WW is a business, plain and simple. I did belong to WW on line and decided it was a total waste of money. Why should I pay them to use a site to keep track of my food? A person can find lots of diet information on the net for free. I just didn't see much point in paying to belong to a group when there are so many free places on the net for people to exchange dieting information. > I agree with you. WW is all about the money. WW is a business, plain and > simple. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > point in paying to belong to a group when there are so many free places on > the net for people to exchange dieting information. Some years ago (shortly after the introduction of the points system) I lost about 40 pounds via Weight Watchers. Yes, it's a business, but at the time I felt I got excellent value for my money. As luck would have it, I was able to attend meetings run by an award-winning leader who had the ability--like a fine, evangelistic preacher--to completely camptivate people's attention during the meetings and send them out each week charged up to get with and stick with the program. You can't really duplicate that online, nor can you duplicate the impact of the face-to-face, real-time interaction of the group. But I agree: if it's just "the facts" you want, they're readily available for free. And although it may not be entirely ethical for people to be sharing the details of the WW points and other programs with nonmembers, it's just not practical for WW (or their paying members) to expect this information to remain proprietary when so many thousands of people have purchased it. Summing up: the unique value is in the people-to-people interaction. >> I agree with you. WW is all about the money. WW is a business, plain >> and simple. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Summing up: the unique value is in the people-to-people interaction. I suppose that is correct. Group therapy does work for many people. I can't understand why people are upset if information is shared. If I buy a book, read it, and then give it to you, is that wrong? it isn't as though someone is copying or selling the information. I didn't sign any confidentially agreement with WW, and I feel free to share my books or other WW with other people. After trying WW on their own ,many people make the decision join a plan and go to the meetings. I can see both sides of this and choose not to share in this format because I don't know that the person can't afford it, if I know someone can't help them selves because of finances I try and help, for me this usually means giving them materials that are from the last set of the plan... then if they stick with it then I update them, Lee > > That was going to be my point. > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > really don't CARE that others (including me) "pay for it." A LOT of us > share our information with friends. I susect that we were mislead (at least I was) that she was an online PAYING customer. If I had realised that earlier I not not have given her the information that I did. Signature~laura~ > As an on-line user don't you have the information for your friend?...GG > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> you just tell me here base points? She's 50, sits most of the day and is >> about 5'7" |
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