Weight Loss Forum / WeightWatchers / May 2009
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Stephanie - 29 Apr 2009 13:17 GMT So... as you may recall, ia m doing this on my own with the journal, the Complete Food Companion and the Dining Out Guide (which I rarely use). The Complete Food Companion is supposed to give me my points info. For carrots one cup of raw is 0 points. What if I eat 2 carrots? How do I know the multiplication factor on these foods? Thanks
Stephanie
Willow Herself - 30 Apr 2009 00:40 GMT You go to a meeting and get the program... that's how.
Will~
> So... as you may recall, ia m doing this on my own with the journal, the > Complete Food Companion and the Dining Out Guide (which I rarely use). The [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Stephanie Stephanie - 30 Apr 2009 00:48 GMT > You go to a meeting and get the program... that's how. I don't have the money to pay for the program.
> Will~ > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> carrots? How do I know the multiplication factor on these foods? >> Thanks Stephanie Willow Herself - 30 Apr 2009 03:56 GMT Times are hard for everyone honey..everyone.
Will~
>> You go to a meeting and get the program... that's how. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >>> carrots? How do I know the multiplication factor on these foods? >>> Thanks Stephanie Dee Flint - 01 May 2009 02:39 GMT >> You go to a meeting and get the program... that's how. > > I don't have the money to pay for the program. By preparing your own food from wholesome, nutritious ingredients instead of buy pre-packaged, processed stuff, you should be able to save enough money to pay for WW and then some. Our grocery bill has gone down substantially.
Stormmee - 02 May 2009 11:27 GMT and how much does WW cost in the larger sceme of things, say as opposed to an angeoplastic...
Lee
>>> You go to a meeting and get the program... that's how. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > money to pay for WW and then some. Our grocery bill has gone down > substantially. Stephanie - 02 May 2009 13:22 GMT > and how much does WW cost in the larger sceme of things, say as > opposed to an angeoplastic... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> save enough money to pay for WW and then some. Our grocery bill has >> gone down substantially. Everyone has their priorities, eh? I think it is interesting that folks are willing to comment on my statrting position in order to determine the relative priority of payng for WW! So how about I share.
I never buy prepackaged foods. I have not in years. It really is NOT cheaper often to eat fresh produce a lot. A meal for hte family of tuna, egg noodle and cream of mushroom soup is CHEAP. Be that as it may, I am a very frugal grocery shopper. I freezer cook when things are on sale. I have a choice of 2 grocery stores and a warehouse store that I can get bargains from within an easy driving radios. ($!.66 for boneless chicken breast!)
We are a single income family of 4. I home school the kids. My husband has a good but modest job. As a result of some uforseen bills, dental that was not covered, auto repairs... we are behind on about every bill you can dream of. I am hesitant to cancel my gym membereship (our one ... extravagance) because I know I will not work out at home.
I am not overweigth. There is no particular risk of angioplasti here. I am a 40yo, 5'8" woman at 145. I excercise pretty hard 3-5 days per week.
I am returning to WW way of doing things having slowly stopped eating proeprly. I have a very small amount of weight to lose, but if healthy eating is a lifestlyle and not a yo-yo diet, then I need to recalibrate myself and get back in the right mindset.
So... I am not criticizing anyone who does wish to pay for WW. I think that is great. When I first started, that is what I did as well. It worked great for me. If you do not wish to share what could be considered proprietary information, I completely respect you in that choice.
I am not trying to be critical or get up in anyone's face. Just thouguth I woudl attempt to respond as politely as I could! (Which is hard for me since I have a mouth on me!)
Willow Herself - 02 May 2009 22:11 GMT That is very nice, and has nothing to do with the fact that if you want specification on a program that WW sells, then you have to pay for it.
I'm sure that going to Macy's and asking for this top that you really want but don't want to pay for because it's not in your "priorities" would touch them a lot, but not to the point to giving you the top for free.
How much you have to lose (as if you were more deserving because you're thinner... interesting) or how behind you are on the bills (who isn't nowadays?) doesn't change the fact that you are trying to get for free, something that is being sold, and is also copyrighted. The law is the law, and right is right, no matter how entitled you feel.
This all being said as politely as I could of course.
Will~
>> and how much does WW cost in the larger sceme of things, say as >> opposed to an angeoplastic... [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > woudl attempt to respond as politely as I could! (Which is hard for me > since I have a mouth on me!) Stephanie - 02 May 2009 22:55 GMT > That is very nice, and has nothing to do with the fact that if you > want specification on a program that WW sells, then you have to pay [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > feel. > This all being said as politely as I could of course. Nice! I better go get my angeoplasti!
> Will~ > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >> thouguth I woudl attempt to respond as politely as I could! (Which >> is hard for me since I have a mouth on me!) Willow Herself - 03 May 2009 05:07 GMT There's nothing "not nice" in my post, stealing is stealing, no matter how you justify it.
I didn't make the world, I just live in it.
Will~
>> That is very nice, and has nothing to do with the fact that if you >> want specification on a program that WW sells, then you have to pay [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >>> thouguth I woudl attempt to respond as politely as I could! (Which >>> is hard for me since I have a mouth on me!) Stormmee - 03 May 2009 14:19 GMT my mom weighs 135 is 71 years old, eats healthy and i have just gone through a major amount of stress as she had a heart attack eirlier this week, while she has some health issues and sees her doctors regularliy there was no indication for this heart attack, i wasn't trying to get on you, btw i love that you home school my cousine does and i think her kids will really benefit.
Lee
>> and how much does WW cost in the larger sceme of things, say as >> opposed to an angeoplastic... [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > woudl attempt to respond as politely as I could! (Which is hard for me > since I have a mouth on me!) Karen Officer - 03 May 2009 18:39 GMT Lee I hope your mother makes a full recovery. My Dad has had a heart attack, and just this past week had heart surgery so I know the concerns you are dealing with Karen
>my mom weighs 135 is 71 years old, eats healthy and i have just gone through >a major amount of stress as she had a heart attack eirlier this week, while [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >> woudl attempt to respond as politely as I could! (Which is hard for me >> since I have a mouth on me!) Stormmee - 04 May 2009 07:27 GMT while she does have other health issues, this was a shocker because she does see her medical people as she should, and it doesn't seem fair that she should have one... she is home now, and insisted on church today... doctor has said the same as bed rest for six weeks... or back to the hospital with her... i can't imagine how she will tolerate being indoors when it is garden season... either she will suffer another one, or my dad will get one trying to do the garden with her supervising,
Lee
> Lee I hope your mother makes a full recovery. My Dad has had a heart > attack, and just this past week had heart surgery so I know the [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] >>> woudl attempt to respond as politely as I could! (Which is hard for me >>> since I have a mouth on me!) Willow Herself - 04 May 2009 16:08 GMT Sending thought/vibes in her direction, and yours!
Recovery is a b... sometimes.
Will~
> while she does have other health issues, this was a shocker because she > does see her medical people as she should, and it doesn't seem fair that [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] >>>> woudl attempt to respond as politely as I could! (Which is hard for me >>>> since I have a mouth on me!) Stormmee - 04 May 2009 16:30 GMT thank you, my aunt is going to stay with them after the middle of the week, that will probably help with the garden, Lee
> Sending thought/vibes in her direction, and yours! > [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] >>>>> woudl attempt to respond as politely as I could! (Which is hard for me >>>>> since I have a mouth on me!) Stephanie - 30 Apr 2009 00:49 GMT > You go to a meeting and get the program... that's how. My recollection, actually, is that they don't give you any different material than the complete food companion. Doe they breed lack of clear information to promote your need to continue paying?
> Will~ > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> carrots? How do I know the multiplication factor on these foods? >> Thanks Stephanie Stephanie - 30 Apr 2009 03:33 GMT >> You go to a meeting and get the program... that's how. > > My recollection, actually, is that they don't give you any different > material than the complete food companion. Doe they breed lack of > clear information to promote your need to continue paying? I am denser than the average bear. Rather than use the food companion, I can just go to the USDA website and use the straight data.
pintlar - 30 Apr 2009 03:50 GMT <snip>
> I am denser than the average bear. Rather than use the food companion, I > can just go to the USDA website and use the straight data. ************************************* How about a link? I am also an independent and I counted points differently than a friend who uses a WW computer regarding a 'Cup of Soup'. He came up with '1', and I count it as 4.1.
Stephanie - 30 Apr 2009 13:25 GMT > <snip> >> I am denser than the average bear. Rather than use the food [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > differently than a friend who uses a WW computer regarding a 'Cup of > Soup'. He came up with '1', and I count it as 4.1. I don't use the USDA directly though I do beleive they do have a searchable database. I enter the recipes I use into Living Cookbook. That software got its food database from USDA.
Stormmee - 30 Apr 2009 11:52 GMT two things here, if you get the monthly pass, you get etools which will give you all the points info you could possibly want, fex. i know that 140 gm of strawberries is 0 points, and 141 gm is .5 points, and i also keep track so i don't do too much of this. so it may be worth your while to do the 3 months you need to get the materials, which are in fact pretty new, including the pocket guide of points to carry with you...
also yes it is hard for everyone.. but when you consider the health improvement, and potentail saving from not getting ill, and the savings of getting back into clothes that are gret just too small you could really be saving,
not trying to be harsh but even if you don't want to go to goal, that first ten/twelve weeks is a rock solid foundation to build on, and you can use that time to get points stuff out of the ww data base that you think you might want to eat in the future,
Lee
>> You go to a meeting and get the program... that's how. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>> carrots? How do I know the multiplication factor on these foods? >>> Thanks Stephanie Dee Flint - 01 May 2009 02:37 GMT >> You go to a meeting and get the program... that's how. > > My recollection, actually, is that they don't give you any different > material than the complete food companion. Doe they breed lack of clear > information to promote your need to continue paying? No they tell you to calculate a total points based on the calories, fat, and fiber of the portion size you actually eat. It's very clear. However you must have the points slider or calculator to do so. To get those items, you need to be a WW member. In addition, it is your responsibility to find the nutrition information (calories, fat, fiber) on your own.
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