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cyberman - 25 Feb 2007 14:13 GMT
Hi all,

I started my diet 40 days ago, and to be honest I wasn't following
'strict' diet, so every day or two I will pick a meal in one of the
restaurants.

The only difference in the last 40 days than before I started my diet
is that now and through the 40 days I am eating only 2 meals
(Breakfast - Dinner), so I dropped snacks and lunch.

What is strange is that I lost 13.5 lb in the last 40 days!!! My
friends told me that this is a 'rapid' weight loss and it is not
healthy to loose weight this fast.

So I wanted to make sure by asking here, is this really a rapid weight
loss? And what are the normal weight loss rates / week based on my
height and weight mentioned below?

I am 6, 2" - 264.5 lb - 35 Yrs old

Thanks in advance for your time

Michael
RCE - 25 Feb 2007 14:21 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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>
> Michael

I am no expert, but 13.5 lbs in 40 days is about 2.3 lbs per week.   That's
not a "rapid" rate.
However, IMO, skipping any meals is not a good idea.  In fact, it's
recommended that you eat more often but in smaller amounts.  There's a
recent report that going for more than 8-10 hours without eating is not good
because your body will start burning muscle.

RCE
cyberman - 25 Feb 2007 14:27 GMT
> I am no expert, but 13.5 lbs in 40 days is about 2.3 lbs per week.   That's
> not a "rapid" rate.

That's what I thought first but as I said I heard from my friends that
loosing this amount per week for a body like mine (weight - height) is
considered to be rapid :(
Anyway, thanks for the advice, I do highly appreciate it

> However, IMO, skipping any meals is not a good idea.  In fact, it's
> recommended that you eat more often but in smaller amounts.  There's a
> recent report that going for more than 8-10 hours without eating is not good
> because your body will start burning muscle.

ooh, I never thought about that, then I will try to increase my meals
while keeping them all with small portions

Michael
RCE - 25 Feb 2007 14:44 GMT
>> I am no expert, but 13.5 lbs in 40 days is about 2.3 lbs per week.
>> That's
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>
> Michael

Like I said, I am far from an expert but I've done a lot of research on
weight loss, diet, etc. and there are a lot of conflicting theories out
there.

IMO, the bottom line is to do what works for you.  I firmly believe you can
exceed the recommended weight loss rate of 1-2 lbs a week as long as you
exercise, including a strenuous weight lifting schedule.   When I first
started dieting and exercising I was losing about 6 lbs a week.
The loss rate drops as you go and now, if I go back and find the average
weekly loss rate since the end of October (when I started)  the number is
around 2.5-3.0 lbs per week.  I've exercised throughout ... both
cardiovascular and weights and have suffered no ill effects.  The first
month I averaged about 1400 calories intake a day ....  the second month
about 1500 ...  then to 1600.  Right now I am at about 1800 per day and will
soon be upping it again to stabilize at my weight goal.

RCE

260/199/190
cyberman - 25 Feb 2007 16:08 GMT
> IMO, the bottom line is to do what works for you.  I firmly believe you can
> exceed the recommended weight loss rate of 1-2 lbs a week as long as you
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> about 1500 ...  then to 1600.  Right now I am at about 1800 per day and will
> soon be upping it again to stabilize at my weight goal.

Thanks RCE for your reply. Well I do exercise (walking) 3-4 times
weekly as I mentioned earlier. But again what worried me basically
beside my friends words is that the food I am eating is not this diet
food, in other words I don't eat steamed food or grilled meat/ chicken
for example, instead (many time) I eat regular food like fried fish,
regular rice...etc....so do you think this is normal?

Thanks for your time

Michael
determined - 25 Feb 2007 17:21 GMT
>> IMO, the bottom line is to do what works for you.  I firmly believe you
>> can
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>
> Michael

If you eat less than your body burns, you will lose weight, regardless of
what you are eating.  However, adopting a healthier diet will facilitate
quicker weight loss, more weight loss in the long run, and a healthier body.
Rachael Reynolds - 25 Feb 2007 14:44 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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>
> Michael

1-2lb is recommended as a healthy loss rate.  But yours includes the first
couple weeks of a diet which tend to see larger losses, a fair bit of which
is fluid so you are on track.

Some people do think you should not miss meals and should include snacks but
to me it seems that if it's working for you, stick at it!

Signature

Rachael

176/116/<119

www.justgiving.com/rachaelslondonmarathon

cyberman - 25 Feb 2007 16:06 GMT
On Feb 25, 6:44 am, "Rachael Reynolds" <rachael.reyno...@mac.com>
wrote:
> 1-2lb is recommended as a healthy loss rate.  But yours includes the first
> couple weeks of a diet which tend to see larger losses, a fair bit of which
> is fluid so you are on track.

Well from 2 to 2.3 I don't think it is a big deal, especially if we
took in consideration that I walk for 35-45 minutes from 3-4 times
weekly...correct?

> Some people do think you should not miss meals and should include snacks but
> to me it seems that if it's working for you, stick at it!

You see what worried me basically beside my friends words is that the
food I am eating is not this diet food, in other words I don't eat
steamed food or grilled meat/ chicken for example, instead (many time)
I eat regular food like fried fish, regular rice...etc....so do you
think this is normal?

Thanks for your time

Michael
Rachael Reynolds - 25 Feb 2007 17:24 GMT
> On Feb 25, 6:44 am, "Rachael Reynolds" <rachael.reyno...@mac.com>
> wrote:
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>
> Michael

Depends a bit what you are aiming for.  Of course a lot of fried food and
stuff isn't particularly heatlhy but if your main goal (and it's a good
goal) at the moment is weight loss, a calorie is a calorie so stick with
what works for you and work on the healthier bit  a little at a time.  For
example, because fried food has a lot of fat it has a lot of calories.  If
you had the same fish grilled, you'd have calories to spare for more other
food so you might find yourself less hungry.  But that's up to how you feel.

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Rachael

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www.justgiving.com/rachaelslondonmarathon>

cyberman - 25 Feb 2007 17:32 GMT
Thanks Rachael, determined for your support and reply :-)
Gary G - 26 Feb 2007 18:00 GMT
Your weight loss seems OK and eat what you want if you wish...You can be
thin and still have other conditions which can be caused by eating fried
foods etc...Certainly there is also a genetic component to the
equation...Eating within limits as well as eating healthy can't hurt...GG

> On Feb 25, 6:44 am, "Rachael Reynolds" <rachael.reyno...@mac.com>
> wrote:
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>
> Michael
Caleb - 25 Feb 2007 21:30 GMT
On Feb 25, 6:44 am, "Rachael Reynolds" <rachael.reyno...@mac.com>
wrote:

> > Hi all,
>
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> www.justgiving.com/rachaelslondonmarathon

Rachel -- I sure agree with your views about tailoring your meal
approach to what works for you. The radio doctor, Dr. Dean Edell,
routinely skips a meal, and neuropsychologist Mark Mattson, PhD, says
he has not eaten breakfast in about 20 years. (He has also found
skipping meals to impart some resistance to the brain for conditions
such as Alzheimers, concussions, etc. (This appeared to be the case
for rats and mice and he is now conducting research in humans. I'm
really interested in his results.) He believes that three square meals
a day may be harmful, and feels that eating once a day -- or perhaps
once every two days -- might be health-inducing.

Lot of superstition in the area of eating/dieting/etc.

Keep up the long runs!!!!

Yours,

Caleb
Tara Legale - 25 Feb 2007 19:06 GMT
Men lost weight so much faster than women.  Plus you have a bit to lose, so
you will lose more.  And actually IMO 13.5 in 40 days isn't THAT much,
considering half of that MIGHT be water weight.  Keep it up though... I
would still eat something small for lunch though, to keep your metabolism
going, even if only a protein bar, yogurt and/or fruit.
Steve - 25 Feb 2007 23:20 GMT
> So I wanted to make sure by asking here, is this really a rapid weight
> loss? And what are the normal weight loss rates / week based on my
> height and weight mentioned below?

Most experts agree that if you lose more than 1-2 pounds a week you
risk losing muscle, slowing your metabolism down ( fatter off of less
food),  become flabby though thinner, getting loose skin, and gaining
the weight back.
Chris Braun - 26 Feb 2007 00:10 GMT
>> So I wanted to make sure by asking here, is this really a rapid weight
>> loss? And what are the normal weight loss rates / week based on my
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>food),  become flabby though thinner, getting loose skin, and gaining
>the weight back.

I agree with this general view, though -- as others have pointed out
-- the first couple of weeks of dieting generally result in greater
loss due to loss of retained water.  The OP's rate of loss so far is
nothing to worry about.  Going forward, I'd recommend that he try to
stick to the 1-2 pounds per week.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
cyberman - 26 Feb 2007 08:01 GMT
Thanks all for your help and support, I will try to keep loosing
weight from now on between 1-2 pounds weekly maximum.

Michael
determined - 26 Feb 2007 18:40 GMT
> Thanks all for your help and support, I will try to keep loosing
> weight from now on between 1-2 pounds weekly maximum.
>
> Michael

and could you try at least a little to incorporate some healthier food
choices?  You'll feel better, I swear.
 
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