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Cubit - 11 Apr 2007 13:57 GMT
I got an update letter from them.  Sadly, I had to report that I was more
than 5 pounds above the weight I was 1 year ago.  However, if they correlate
to my original records, they should see that I am well below my pre-diet
peak of 320 pounds.

This was the 2nd year anniversary check-up questionnaire.

Cubit
190/170.9/160
AnonomissX aka ~Melodie~ - 11 Apr 2007 18:23 GMT
Well, good on ya then!

How many people can say they did as well as you did? (Not me, but maybe
soon).
~Melodie~ Aka AnonomissX

>I got an update letter from them.  Sadly, I had to report that I was more
>than 5 pounds above the weight I was 1 year ago.  However, if they
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> Cubit
> 190/170.9/160
Bob in CT - 11 Apr 2007 18:31 GMT
> Well, good on ya then!
>
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>> Cubit
>> 190/170.9/160

Pre diet peak of 320?  Dang, that's some good weight loss.  Do you have  
any pictures?

You know, at one time I tried to sign up for the NWCR, but I had no  
pictures of myself when I was my biggest.  I ran from the camera then (and  
still do).

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Cubit - 12 Apr 2007 00:54 GMT
>> Well, good on ya then!
>>
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> pictures of myself when I was my biggest.  I ran from the camera then (and
> still do).

Yup. I have several "Before" pictures.  Even my driver's license was from my
huge days.

Below is a link to my best "Before" picture.  I'm at a restaurant with
friends, with a fruit drink the size of my head.  Back then, I would order a
dinner called "The Whole Island" at this Jamaican restaurant.

http://techmart.com/~cubit/Before.jpg

Cubit
Hannah Gruen - 12 Apr 2007 12:33 GMT
"Cubit" <no@not.not> wrote in message news:RweTh.2744> Below is a link to my
best "Before" picture.  I'm at a restaurant with
> friends, with a fruit drink the size of my head.  Back then, I would order
> a dinner called "The Whole Island" at this Jamaican restaurant.
>
> http://techmart.com/~cubit/Before.jpg
>
> Cubit

Thanks for posting, Cubit. Really amazing change.

OK, I had to laugh at "The Whole Island."

HG
Diva - 12 Apr 2007 14:18 GMT
On Apr 12, 7:33 am, "Hannah Gruen" <allium28-riverheig...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> "Cubit" <n...@not.not> wrote in message news:RweTh.2744> Below is a link to my
>
> best "Before" picture.  I'm at a restaurant with
>
> > friends, with a fruit drink the size of my head.  Back then, I would order
> > a dinner called "The Whole Island" at this Jamaican restaurant.

So you are now a real "Survivor" even though you are off the
island :-)

Diva
Bob in CT - 12 Apr 2007 16:55 GMT
>>> Well, good on ya then!
>>>
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>
> Cubit

Very impressive!  I have no "before" pictures.

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Steve - 30 Apr 2007 21:08 GMT
> You know, at one time I tried to sign up for the NWCR, but I had no
> pictures of myself when I was my biggest.  I ran from the camera then (and
> still do).

Do you need before and after pictures to join the National Weight
Control Registry?
Cubit - 02 May 2007 17:25 GMT
Yes

>> You know, at one time I tried to sign up for the NWCR, but I had no
>> pictures of myself when I was my biggest.  I ran from the camera then
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> Do you need before and after pictures to join the National Weight
> Control Registry?
RRzVRR - 03 May 2007 11:04 GMT
> Yes
>
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>>Do you need before and after pictures to join the National Weight
>>Control Registry?

I joined the registry over 7 years ago and never had to submit a
photo.  After many years of trying to correctly answer their
slanted questionnaires, I quit last year.

Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing
that the study is not objective.  It was transparent that the
study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight'
(another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat).  One of
my BA's is in Psychology, with a heavy load in experimental
methods (the design and analyst of testing).  Knowing that
research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the
whole process extremely frustrating.

You can google my name rrzvrr and "National Weight Control
Registry" and you can read about my experiences with the study.

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trader4@optonline.net - 03 May 2007 16:41 GMT
> > Yes
>
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> research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the
> whole process extremely frustrating.

That was the conclusion I came to many years ago when I looked at it
too.  I started to answer the questions, but it as apparent that it
was slanted and very difficult to even complete the questions with
vaild data if you're doing LC.  So, I never joined, as I didn't
believe they were doing anything fair or useful.
Cubit - 06 May 2007 18:23 GMT
Indeed. The questionnaire is biased.  However, my feeling is that it was an
honest bias.  By that, I mean that I don't think these people will fake the
data, but, rather, they have some things they wanted to prove, and thus, the
bias.

My hope is that someday the raw data they collect will be available to
others who are more objective, and that my data will support *my* biases and
hopes for a proper healthy way to eat and live.

If you know of somewhere else, anyplace else, that allows ordinary folks to
join a similar but proper study, let me know.

Also, as biased as the questions may be, they are collecting the weight
history over time.  Any true winners can be revisited.  They have already
done some of this.  I saw a TV show based on 2 people chosen as examples of
winners from the study.  One was a woman who taught an aerobics class.  The
other was a man, and I don't remember too much about him.

>> > Yes
>>
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> vaild data if you're doing LC.  So, I never joined, as I didn't
> believe they were doing anything fair or useful.
gage.junk@comcast.net - 03 May 2007 17:36 GMT
Thanks for confirming my suspicions about the National Weight
Registry, and for saving me filling out the reams of paperwork they
want BEFORE joining the study.  Although, I would have enjoyed being a
statistical outlier.

> Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing
> that the study is not objective.  It was transparent that the
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> research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the
> whole process extremely frustrating.
Steve - 04 May 2007 03:05 GMT
> Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing
> that the study is not objective.  It was transparent that the
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> research is worthless unless you strive for objectivity makes the
> whole process extremely frustrating.

At the least the NWCR will be out there as a set of examples that
people can hold on to a weight loss long term.

So many people think it is impossible, many with credentials, think it
is highly unlikely.
Mu - 04 May 2007 06:09 GMT
> At the least the NWCR will be out there as a set of examples that
> people can hold on to a weight loss long term.

NMote the word examples instead of populace.

> So many people think it is impossible, many with credentials, think it
> is highly unlikely

Why7 is that? Because that's the facts JackSteve
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Steve - 06 May 2007 23:55 GMT
> Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing
> that the study is not objective.  It was transparent that the
> study was only looking at low-fat as a means to lose 'weight'
> (another issue I had with them was 'weight' vs. bodyfat).

A few months ago I googled on "The National Weight Control Registry".
I found many articles on what they were about and what generalities
they have learned.
These articles said while the bulk of successful maintainers in the
registry continue to monitor their food after reaching their goal,
continue to weigh themselves frequently and use a low fat diet that
there was a growing minority in the registry that uses carb control.
Cubit - 10 May 2007 19:59 GMT
If the low carbers are revolted by the questionnaire, the stats are skewed.

>> Its very difficult to go through their questionnaires knowing
>> that the study is not objective.  It was transparent that the
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> continue to weigh themselves frequently and use a low fat diet that
> there was a growing minority in the registry that uses carb control.
Caleb - 14 Apr 2007 04:40 GMT
> I got an update letter from them.  Sadly, I had to report that I was more
> than 5 pounds above the weight I was 1 year ago.  However, if they correlate
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> Cubit
> 190/170.9/160

Cubit -- I echo Anonomiss -- Good on ya!

Yours,

Caleb
 
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