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alishadevochka@gmail.com - 16 Apr 2007 21:26 GMT
Hello

I am trying to lose weight by long walk. Right now, I mostly walk at
night for about 3 miles in two hours, and also bit of running -- when
no one is looking at me ;) I would like to know any suggestion you
guys have, and if any of you had any success losing your weight and
keep it off.

Personally, I believe have some success. I used to weight 225, by
walking I have been able to trim down to 215 -- although I weight 210
in the morning. So, I don't know how much I really have lost though.
Right now I am hoping to cut down another 10-15 pound.My dream weight
is about 150-160. To make my walk more exciting I am thinking of
buying pedometer. Also some bicycling in future.

My info:

height is 5'6
age: 30
gender: male
weight: 215 in evening -- 210 in morning

To achieve my goal I have decided to write a food diary, and drink
diary. And I am also making a weekly food plan. I am try to drink lot
of water.

I really want to do some exercise, but fitness clubs look very
intimidating, and I prefer to do it at home -- bit ashamed.  Any
suggestion, advice will be appreciated.

Ps:

According to following web site I should drink109 ounces, 04 3 liter.
Isn't too much?

http://www.hydroxycut.com/MEN/CALCULATORS/WATER/index.shtml
Del Cecchi - 17 Apr 2007 02:38 GMT
> Hello
>
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>
> http://www.hydroxycut.com/MEN/CALCULATORS/WATER/index.shtml

You can tell if you are getting enough water by the color of your urine.
If it is light you are getting enough.

Watching what you eat, eating properly, and not too much is the most
important thing.  Measure or weigh your food.  Count portions at least.
Write it down is best.

Walk.  Do some strength training.  Body weight and optionally some
dumbells will get you started.

5'6 is my height and not much different in starting weight.  Don't be
intimidated by the gym/health club.  What are they going to do to you?
Just go in and get on a treadmill or elliptical or other piece of
equipment.  At your age you will build conditioning fast.

Fun stuff includes an ipod or other mp3 player, a heart rate monitor, a
gps for those wandering walks outside.  You can do it. I did it at 58.
Mu - 17 Apr 2007 08:56 GMT
> You can tell if you are getting enough water by the color of your urine.
> If it is light you are getting enough.

Hores$it
Phil M. - 29 Apr 2007 19:16 GMT
nocowinthismu@gmail.com wrote:

>> You can tell if you are getting enough water by the color of your
>> urine. If it is light you are getting enough.
>
> Hores$it

Urine Color Chart - http://i19.tinypic.com/6ary9mp.jpg
From the book, "Performing in Extreme Environments."

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Mu - 02 May 2007 18:46 GMT
> nocowinthismu@gmail.com wrote:
>
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> Urine Color Chart - http://i19.tinypic.com/6ary9mp.jpg
> From the book, "Performing in Extreme Environments."

First, a comment about Human Kinetics. They sell books for a living
including books Mu has personally participated in the authoring. So I
speak of hors$it first hand.

lol

Second, your clue that this was horsh$t was in the first paragraph,
"one-of-a-kind reference". Either Doc Armstrong is highly unique
<chortle> or highly full of horsh$t. Take your pick.

Third, "Doc" Armstrong is an exercise physiologist and an associate
professor of kinesiology. He is not a biochemist, urologist or
scientist unless you wish to streeeeeeeetccchhhh that definition to its
fullest.

Fourth, UCon, er, Unive Conneticut's Human Performance "Lab" is heavily
sponsored by <looking around to make sure the secret is kept> Powerade.

Not last, Armstrong et al have successfully foisted this theory on
athletes, athletic trainers, real Docs, etc...see above re: Human
Kinetics.

Still not last, they have extrapolated their data cross the entire
Untrained population of adults and children and prolly for mongeeses.

Not over yet, the athletes they concluded their study were later
interviewed and found to have been significant users of creatine. This
blows chunks out of their double-blind so what did they do? Came back
with another study claiming creatine "may not" hamper thermoregulatory
mechanisms or influence urine output. lol

Wrapping this up, comes the Mu study of Young Mu, equally scientific and
important. Equally.

Young Mu drinks large amounts of ETOH (usually Schmirnoff; Young Mu go
sleep, wake up to sun, go pee-pee potty. Young Mu pee clear. Young Mu,
though, is dehydrated from consumption of ETOH.

Fact: Mu defines horsh4it as clinicians who overstep their bounds using
their studies as across-the-spectrum overrationalizations for the
betterment of their pocketbooks. "Doc" Armstrong is one of them.

<eom>

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alishadevochka@gmail.com - 17 Apr 2007 19:51 GMT
On Apr 16, 9:39 pm, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> <alishadevoc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> Walk.  Do some strength training.  Body weight and optionally some
> dumbells will get you started.

> 5'6 is my height and not much different in starting weight.  Don't be
> intimidated by the gym/health club.  What are they going to do to you?
> Just go in and get on a treadmill or elliptical or other piece of
> equipment.  At your age you will build conditioning fast.

It's bit scary. I have seen skiny people making rude comments,
pointing figures. I know it was wrong of me to gain all the weight I
have. All I can say in my defense is that I have sitting job eight
hours. Still, I will stick to my plan walking two hours.

Also, I have cut down meats, and sticking with fish, lentils, rice and
vegs:)

> Fun stuff includes an ipod or other mp3 player, a heart rate monitor, a
> gps for those wandering walks outside.  You can do it. I did it at 58.

You know there some ppl telling me that I'm wasting my time. Can't
lose it once ur 30 or something. I will keep stick to diet and
exercise.

PS: How much do you lose?
Del Cecchi - 17 Apr 2007 20:42 GMT
> On Apr 16, 9:39 pm, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>
> PS: How much do you lose?

Forty pounds.  Some people are full of it.  They are just making excuses
why they can't do it.

If you want to badly enough and have strength you can do it.

Don't be discouraged.  Ignore the naysayers.  And nobody says you have
to pay attention to others at the gym.  Go do your thing.

But walking and some weights you can do at home will do the job if you
are really that self conscious.  Walk outside if the weather is
tolerable.  Walk in the mall or a school or walk stairs in a tall
building if the weather is bad.  Try for every day and make it a part of
your routine.

But it can all be undone if you aren't careful about what you eat...

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Mu - 18 Apr 2007 08:58 GMT
> Forty pounds.  Some people are full of it.  They are just making excuses
> why they can't do it.

Or they haven't found or received the tools to do it.

> If you want to badly enough and have strength you can do it.

Many say the same about smokers

> Don't be discouraged.  Ignore the naysayers.  And nobody says you have
> to pay attention to others at the gym.  Go do your thing.
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>
> But it can all be undone if you aren't careful about what you eat...

2 pounds per day will do.
Joe - 18 Apr 2007 15:48 GMT
> Don't be discouraged.  Ignore the naysayers.  And nobody says you have to
> pay attention to others at the gym.  Go do your thing.

I've gotten better results outside the gym then I did while in. Walking has
been wonderful for me. Instead of driving the three blocks to the store, I
walk. I look for any excuse at all to use my feet. And I'm really feeling
great. 28 more pounds and I'll see a number I haven't seen for 10 years:
299.  :)

Fear of the gym is natural at first. I agree with you, Del. Don't be
discouraged. Everyone in that gym is there for the same reason, to get in
shape or maintain health. I figure most of the people at least respect the
fact that you are trying to do something about your weight. People can
respect effort, they don't respect excuses. God knows I've had too many of
those for years. I'm learning to shed them.

Joe 357/327/220
alishadevochka@gmail.com - 18 Apr 2007 17:18 GMT
> > Don't be discouraged.  Ignore the naysayers.  And nobody says you have to
> > pay attention to others at the gym.  Go do your thing.
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>
> Joe 357/327/220

I am taking small step oo over coming my fear of exercising in public.
Just today, I ran on a race track and there two people running. It was
bit scary, but I overcame my fear and ran along with them. It's very
strange I am not scared of spiders, exercising front of others.
Joe - 18 Apr 2007 17:47 GMT
> I am taking small step oo over coming my fear of exercising in public.
> Just today, I ran on a race track and there two people running. It was
> bit scary, but I overcame my fear and ran along with them. It's very
> strange I am not scared of spiders, exercising front of others.

Just wear a smile an act like you are enjoying the heck out of it.  :)

Joe 357/327/220
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 05 May 2007 01:50 GMT
The quote of the day on Google:

"It's very strange I am not scared of spiders, exercising front of
others."

Unfortunately, there are more bad than good people in this world.
Don't let them win by not doing what you want to do.
Mu - 19 Apr 2007 08:00 GMT
> I've gotten better results outside the gym then I did while in. Walking has
> been wonderful for me. Instead of driving the three blocks to the store, I
> walk. I look for any excuse at all to use my feet. And I'm really feeling
> great. 28 more pounds and I'll see a number I haven't seen for 10 years:
> 299.  :)

I owned gyms, I went to gyms, still do. There is nothing that can
compare to having your own gym in your own residence.

> Fear of the gym is natural at first. I agree with you, Del. Don't be
> discouraged. Everyone in that gym is there for the same reason, to get in
> shape or maintain health.

That's why Del is upset, this is not true. Many are there for the
cosmetic look of hypertrophy and to pick up <insert>

> I figure most of the people at least respect the
> fact that you are trying to do something about your weight. People can
> respect effort, they don't respect excuses. God knows I've had too many of
> those for years. I'm learning to shed them.
>
> Joe 357/327/220

This I agree with even the gym rats will say "At least he's trying".

In my case, I go to a gym and put on my earphones, MP3 player, and
self-immerse.
Cynthia P - 17 Apr 2007 21:27 GMT
> It's bit scary. I have seen skiny people making rude comments,
> pointing figures. I know it was wrong of me to gain all the weight I
> have. All I can say in my defense is that I have sitting job eight
> hours. Still, I will stick to my plan walking two hours.

Obviously we can't know what it is like at your local gym or gyms, but
I've been a member of three different gyms now, in three different
states and truly, this has NOT generally been a problem for me.

What I find, is most of the time at gyms, people are busy doing their
own workouts and focussing on themselves, not you. Or, they may
actually respect what you are doing!

Hubby is over 300 pounds and has been walking regularly at our gym and
has gotten the thumbs up from more than one member who's seen him out
on the track.

Anyway, it's not unusual to find the idea of a gym scary, I know I was
the first time I ever joined one, but I did get over it. In my current
gym, there are folks of all body types doing their thing. Elderly,
fat, skinny, physically challenged, you name it. It's not at all
unusual to see someone using a walker on the walking track for
instance.

Just keep it in mind for the future as a possible option. It may start
to seem less scary as you lose. And it does provide options for cross
training.

>> Fun stuff includes an ipod or other mp3 player, a heart rate monitor, a
>> gps for those wandering walks outside.  You can do it. I did it at 58.

I agree, I love to have music when I walk! And a heart rate monitor
provides good feedback, so you don't get into a rut where you slack
off on intensity.

> You know there some ppl telling me that I'm wasting my time. Can't
> lose it once ur 30 or something. I will keep stick to diet and
> exercise.

Don't listen to those people then.

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Sean - 18 Apr 2007 23:02 GMT
On Apr 17, 11:51 am, alishadevoc...@gmail.com wrote:

> You know there some ppl telling me that I'm wasting my time. Can't
> lose it once ur 30 or something. I will keep stick to diet and
> exercise.

Well, I'm 40 and I've lost 23 pounds in 13 weeks. So there's the proof
that those people are wrong.

I wish I'd known ten years ago what I know now.

Sean
alishadevochka@gmail.com - 18 Apr 2007 18:05 GMT
On Apr 16, 9:39 pm, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > According to following web site I should drink109 ounces, 04 3 liter.
> > Isn't too much?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> You can tell if you are getting enough water by the color of your urine.
> If it is light you are getting enough.

My doctor said the same thing. I check few other for this issue and
according http://www.muscletech.com my water requirement is 146 0z.
Approixmately nine 9 16 oz. of bottles of water.

146 US fluid ounces = 4.31773533 liter

In any event I have drank 1 litter of water so far.

Here is something I found on CNN

http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/library/NU/00283.html

"How much water do you need?

Every day you lose water through your breath, perspiration, urine and
bowel movements. For your body to function properly, you must
replenish its water supply by consuming beverages and foods that
contain water.

A couple of approaches attempt to approximate water needs for the
average, healthy adult living in a temperate climate.

Replacement approach. The average urine output for adults is 1.5
liters a day. You lose close to an additional liter of water a day
through breathing, sweating and bowel movements. Food usually accounts
for 20 percent of your total fluid intake, so if you consume 2 liters
of water or other beverages a day (a little more than 8 cups) along
with your normal diet, you will typically replace the lost fluids.

Dietary recommendations. The Institute of Medicine advises that men
consume roughly 3.0 liters (about 13 cups) of total beverages a day
and women consume 2.2 liters (about 9 cups) of total beverages a day."
Sean - 18 Apr 2007 00:26 GMT
On Apr 16, 1:26 pm, alishadevoc...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> guys have, and if any of you had any success losing your weight and
> keep it off.

Walking alone is a very slow way to loose weight.

http://walking.about.com/cs/howtoloseweight/a/howcalburn.htm

This website has a chart showing how many calories are burned by
walking one mile, different for different weights and speeds. I'm
burning about 100 calories per mile, so about 1.2 pounds per week just
from walking. But I'm also counting on strengthening exercises to
build muscle that will burn calories and reduced food intake. I'd
strongly suggest eating before you go on your walk, otherwise you'll
expend your muscle's energy stores in about a half hour of walking and
start catabolizing (breaking down) muscle for fuel.

I'd recommend eating whole grains and eating small meals every three
hours to keep your basal metabolism up. And my Anatomy Physiology book
says that low carb diets are unwise.

> According to following web site I should drink109 ounces, 04 3 liter.
> Isn't too much?

I don't know. But if you drink too much you can die from it. Eight
glasses or more is what I use, but not 14, per day.

Let us know how your doing and what works for you as you loose weight,
O.K.?

Sean
Zilbandy - 18 Apr 2007 06:19 GMT
>I'm
>burning about 100 calories per mile, so about 1.2 pounds per week just
>from walking

You're walking 42 miles a week?

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Sean - 18 Apr 2007 22:58 GMT
> >I'm
> >burning about 100 calories per mile, so about 1.2 pounds per week just
> >from walking
>
> You're walking 42 miles a week?

I'm not sure. It seems that most days my pedometer says that I walk
about 6 miles. So about 42 miles a week, yes. But just to be honest,
when I figured out that 1.2 pounds a week I using speed times time for
the calculation. The main part of my walking is an hour a day all at
once, then there's the walk to the library and back, about 26 minutes,
and then during other times of my short day I walk for three minutes
every hour because I have a deep vein thrombosis (blood clot) and it
forces the blood to circulate out of the legs. Doctor says the three
minutes every hour further speeds up my metabolism, so it's a win-win
situation. I do that in my apartment, walking back and forth.

I forgot to say that 3500 calories equals a pound of fat.

Sean
alishadevochka@gmail.com - 18 Apr 2007 13:31 GMT
> On Apr 16, 1:26 pm, alishadevoc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
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> hours to keep your basal metabolism up. And my Anatomy Physiology book
> says that low carb diets are unwise.

> > According to following web site I should drink109 ounces, 04 3 liter.
> > Isn't too much?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Let us know how your doing and what works for you as you loose weight,
> O.K.?

I will.

> Sean
1981RoMe@googlemail.com - 20 Apr 2007 03:10 GMT
On Apr 16, 9:26 pm, alishadevoc...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello
>
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>
> http://www.hydroxycut.com/MEN/CALCULATORS/WATER/index.shtml

Hi, i really admire what you are doing, well done. a lot of websites
and fitness clubs will tell you that walking is one of the slowest
ways of taking of weight but i dont think they are correct..

I started a job as a traffic warden in jan 2006, i weighed 25stone
(350lbs), in my job i walk between 13-18 miles a day with equipment
on,
i now weigh 17.18 stone (240.5lbs) <- the weight loss i achived was
without the aide of a diet or additional exercise. i was still going
out for pizza, cola, and chips every other night.  It was only 3month
ago that i started a strict diet.

the main thing i found with walking is that although it doesnt make
you lose weight quickly, it does give you a really healthy feeling.
after a few weeks in my job i had the feeling i culd do anything, and
although it sounds strange my heart actually felt healthier.

anyway, i personally find walking as a gateway - it gets all your
limbs, heart, lungs etc ready for life and makes you want to exercise
more.

I hope you stick at it, and keep us all updated with your progress.

RoMe
Mu - 20 Apr 2007 06:48 GMT
>  a lot of websites
> and fitness clubs will tell you that walking is one of the slowest
> ways of taking of weight but i dont think they are correct..

They're /personal trainers/ for God's Sake (wo)man, they paid dozens of
$$ to get their certifications !!
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Steve - 30 Apr 2007 03:08 GMT
On Apr 16, 4:26 pm, alishadevoc...@gmail.com wrote:
> I would like to know any suggestion you
> guys have, and if any of you had any success losing your weight and
> keep it off.

Read these SHORT articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Weight_Control_Registry

http://www.primusweb.com/fitnesspartner/library/weight/scale.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker%27s_diet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantar_fasciitis

The first one is the most important.  Most people who lose weight
gain    it all back.   The best way to avoid that is to make keeping a
food diary and weighing yourself regularly permanent habits.

> Personally, I believe have some success. I used to weight 225, by
> walking I have been able to trim down to 215 -- although I weight 210
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>
> http://www.hydroxycut.com/MEN/CALCULATORS/WATER/index.shtml
Mu - 02 May 2007 18:47 GMT
> Most people who lose weight
> gain    it all back.   The best way to avoid that is to make keeping a
> food diary and weighing yourself regularly permanent habits.

And if this is the best way, as a populace, we are doomed. Since,
historically, very, very, very few ever will or do.
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