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Food & Walk April 24 - 26. 2007
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alishadevochka@gmail.com - 27 Apr 2007 13:58 GMT I went to Kitchener so I was unable to post here.
Time: 9:05 1 Orange
Time: 9:45 1 cup tea; milk, no sugar 1 poach egg + 2 slice of bread
Note: didn't have any lunch due to travel
5:30 1/2 Starfruit
6:30 - 7:00pm at aunt house 2 plates pasta + organic Shanghai bok choi + tufo, with stock most likely calf
fruit salad; oranges + banana
1 cup green tea
Walk two hours
207/206
April 25, 2007 ( Still in Kitchener)
Time: 7:00
Breakfast 2 Organic Banana, 1 green tea , and slices of bread (home-made)
Time: 9:18 1 Orange
Time: 10:40am 1 Tea with organic milk, no sugar + 1 slice of bread (home-made)
Time: 6:10pm - 6:40pm
5 slice of home-made bread with organic honey
1 plate rice (cooked in stock), roasted chicken, zucchini 1 cup green tea
April 26, 2007 Time: 7:00
3 slice of home-made bread with organic honey 1 cup green tea
Time: 8:10
Orange
Time:
1 Starfruit
Time: 1:50pm
2 plates of rice + peas
3 or 4 roti + sautee broccoli,
1 hour walk due to poker night (last day in Kitchener)
Note: everything I ate in Kitchener way cooked by my aunt or other relative. It's strange to note that they are skinny, healthy, and eat meat, and mostly organic fruit, vegetables, honey.
honeybunch - 28 Apr 2007 00:37 GMT You are doing very well with your, ! You went a bit overboard eating 5 slices of bread at one sitting but it must have been especially delicious because it was home made. Have you lost more weight? and where is Kitchener?
On Apr 27, 8:58 am, alishadevoc...@gmail.com wrote:
> I went to Kitchener so I was unable to post here. > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > Time:
> 1 Starfruit > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > relative. It's strange to note that they are skinny, healthy, and eat > meat, and mostly organic fruit, vegetables, honey. Chris Braun - 28 Apr 2007 02:29 GMT >You are doing very well with your, ! You went a bit overboard eating >5 slices of bread at one sitting but it must have been especially [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] >> relative. It's strange to note that they are skinny, healthy, and eat >> meat, and mostly organic fruit, vegetables, honey. Why strange? Meat isn't a bad thing. It's probably a lot better diet choice than 9 slices of bread in one day :-).
Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
alishadevochka@gmail.com - 28 Apr 2007 14:37 GMT > >You are doing very well with your, ! You went a bit overboard eating > >5 slices of bread at one sitting but it must have been especially [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > Why strange? Meat isn't a bad thing. It's probably a lot better diet > choice than 9 slices of bread in one day :-).
:) I am bit scared of red meat :)
> Chris > 262/130s/130s > started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 Chris Braun - 28 Apr 2007 18:18 GMT >> Why strange? Meat isn't a bad thing. It's probably a lot better diet >> choice than 9 slices of bread in one day :-). > >:) I am bit scared of red meat :) Why?
Anyway, there's all kinds of poultry and fish out there. You don't seem to eat much meat of any sort.
Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
alishadevochka@gmail.com - 29 Apr 2007 14:21 GMT > >> Why strange? Meat isn't a bad thing. It's probably a lot better diet > >> choice than 9 slices of bread in one day :-). > > >:) I am bit scared of red meat :) > > Why? Have you read a book Nutrition and Stress by Harold Rosenberg, M.D.
>From page 14, 15 "I have observed that nutritional requirements are ethnically influenced. Biochemical individuality is a fact of life, and hence we are not able to establish a universal diet. I have concluded that people ethnically bound to the Mediterranean and to the equator have requirements that differ from those of people from northern Europe. The warmer the climate, the greater the availability of vitamin C (ascorbic acid), whereas northern areas do not have access to a great deal of vitamin C until fruit-bearing trees are awakened by warmth. The warmer the climate, the greater is the desire for nibbling. People with darker pigmentation respond differently biochemically to fats, proteins, carbohydrates, require less animal fats and have a greater need for fruits, as a result, they do better with frequent small feedings.
"The northerner, however, responds by eating less, indulges in greater fat intake (fat acts as a fuel and insulator), eats more protein but has less need of ascorbic acid).
"The Mediterranean and equatorial ethnics put on weight, suffer devitalization and an accentuation of degenerative diseases when they indulge in northern European (Western) fare. The opposite holds true for the northerners.
"Nutritional literacy requires not only an understanding of one's biochemical individuality, but a recognition of one's ethnic roots. As we study our basics, we observe that a darker pigmented individual perspires freely and is likely to do better physically in hot weather than the Anglo-Saxon, whose computer is not tuned into warm climate survival. I believe that fair-skinned people experience greater episodes of heat exhaustion. Nutritional intelligence tells us that if we lean more toward the needs stemming from our roots, we will have a more efficient system to combat stress. -------------
After reading Mr. Rosenberg book, I fear that eating stuff not common among my people will be bad for me, chicken, cow, sheep , and goat is very common among my people, but we eat it rarely, or in specially occasion.
> Anyway, there's all kinds of poultry and fish out there. You don't > seem to eat much meat of any sort. I love lobster, shrimp, and veal specially when cooked with dairy products, soy sauce, and mushroom. I will add most them to my diet once BMI is 29. in the mean time II do eat chicken, fish.
You know, I have been dreaming of cooking sauteed chicken, with locusts. I don't know where to get locusts in Toronto :(
http://edward-t-babinski.blogspot.com/2006/10/locust-recipes.html http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=467
> Chris > 262/130s/130s > started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 Chris Braun - 29 Apr 2007 14:42 GMT >> >> Why strange? Meat isn't a bad thing. It's probably a lot better diet >> >> choice than 9 slices of bread in one day :-). [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] >http://edward-t-babinski.blogspot.com/2006/10/locust-recipes.html >http://www.jewlicious.com/?p=467 Interesting article. What's your ethnic origin? Mine is primarily German and English/Irish (Anglo Saxon) -- probably a better match for my diet than yours.
I went to grad school in Toronto -- long ago -- and found incredible food shopping diversity, but I don't know about locusts. You might have to catch some outdoors :-).
Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
alishadevochka@gmail.com - 29 Apr 2007 21:53 GMT > >> >> Why strange? Meat isn't a bad thing. It's probably a lot better diet > >> >> choice than 9 slices of bread in one day :-). [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > German and English/Irish (Anglo Saxon) -- probably a better match for > my diet than yours. Indo-Mongolian. Although, one of my great grand father was and Englishman. I guess he couldn't afford to buy an airline ticket :-)
> I went to grad school in Toronto -- long ago -- and found incredible > food shopping diversity, but I don't know about locusts. You might > have to catch some outdoors :-). Even if I could my family wouldn't let me bring in the house, let alone cook in the pot :-)
> Chris > 262/130s/130s > started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 Del Cecchi - 29 Apr 2007 16:32 GMT >> >> Why strange? Meat isn't a bad thing. It's probably a lot better >> >> diet [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >> 262/130s/130s >> started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 Sounds like, totally bogus. Did this guy offer any proof of this racially oriented stuff or did he just pull it out of his behind?
alishadevochka@gmail.com - 29 Apr 2007 22:11 GMT On Apr 29, 11:32 am, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <alishadevoc...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > Sounds like, totally bogus. Did this guy offer any proof of this > racially oriented stuff or did he just pull it out of his behind? Harold Rosenberg, M.D. specializes in family practice, sports medicine and orthomolecular nutrition. He has written many books. Also, there have been many, many research on this issue. We are talking about trillion dollars here!
http://www.heartstats.org/datapage.asp?id=932
"Ethnic differences in diet
"Data from the Health Survey for England 2004 show varying dietary habits for different ethnic groups within England. Among men, each ethnic group consumed less fat than the general population. A similar pattern was observed in women, except for Black Africans whose fat consumption was higher than the general population.
"Both men and women from Indian, Pakistani and Chinese communities have the highest levels of fruit and vegetable consumption of any ethnic group. In these groups a higher proportion achieves the 5-a-day target than the general population.
I am no expert so I can't say if these big shot doctors, and scientist are right. However, they have convinced me to stick with meal common among my race.
Reference:
One by Purdue University
Racial differences in sodium and potassium retention in response to dietary salt in female adolescents http://docs.lib.purdue.edu/dissertations/AAI3037622/
Diabetes Disparities Among Racial and Ethnic Minorities http://www.ahrq.gov/research/diabdisp.htm
Gary G - 30 Apr 2007 00:15 GMT I don't know...My people are from Chicago and I did well on hot dogs and barbecued ribs...(still do on occasion)...But I agree sounds like manure...GG
>>> >> Why strange? Meat isn't a bad thing. It's probably a lot better >>> >> diet [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > Sounds like, totally bogus. Did this guy offer any proof of this racially > oriented stuff or did he just pull it out of his behind? alishadevochka@gmail.com - 29 Apr 2007 21:57 GMT > You are doing very well with your, ! You went a bit overboard eating > 5 slices of bread at one sitting but it must have been especially > delicious because it was home made. Have you lost more weight? and > where is Kitchener? I know :) I just weigh myself 29-04-2007, pointer is on 205 :) Kitchener is two hour drive from Toronto. Kitchener-Waterloo are considered twin city. Nice place
> On Apr 27, 8:58 am, alishadevoc...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > > relative. It's strange to note that they are skinny, healthy, and eat > > meat, and mostly organic fruit, vegetables, honey.
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