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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / May 2007700 Days
Well, I've been on my diet 700 days now without going off even once. The good news is that I've lost and kept off about 42 kg = 92 lb. Also I feel great and I'm wearing normal clothes sizes, etc. Neighbors often do a double-take and say they didn't recognize me at first. The frustrating news is that my weight has hovered around 83-84 kg for months now and that I am actually a few kilograms heavier than my low beginning-of-the-year weight of 79.8 kg and just can't seem to lose any more weight lately. I would really like to lose another 10-20 lb because I'm still overweight. Anyway, just sticking to things as best I can... doug > Well, I've been on my diet 700 days now without going off even once. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > doug That is such a huge accomplishment. As far as the next 10 pounds, I can tell you it is really tough. I hover near goal but when I just don't eat any extra points or processed foods, lo and behold the scale suprises me and goes down. It can be so hard but as long as you continue as you have, it should come off. Audrey There are two thoughts that I bounce back and forth between that seem somewhat contradictory: (1) If I am just 10% overweight, I should need to just reduce my current caloric intake by 10% and eventually I'll be 10% lighter. In that case, instead of eating 1700 calories/day I should be able to reduce that to 1530 calories/day and eventually lose 8.3 kg = 18 lb, which would be just fine. (2) If I am maintaining my weight at 83 kg and want to lose just 1 lb/ week I need to reduce my weekly calories by 3500 - which comes to 500 calories less per day (!) which means I should be eating just 1200 calories/day. I don't think I can do that long-term. Possibly there is no contraction and (1) is true it is just that "eventually" might not be within my lifetime. :) doug >(2) If I am maintaining my weight at 83 kg and want to lose just 1 lb/ >week I need to reduce my weekly calories by 3500 - which comes to 500 >calories less per day (!) which means I should be eating just 1200 >calories/day. I don't think I can do that long-term. That's not quite true. Reducing your calorie intake by 500 calories a day will result in a weight loss of 1 pound a week, but you don't have to do it forever. What you should do, in my opinion is just reduce your calorie intake by 100 calories a day. That will result in about a pound a month. Do that for the next year and you'll have lost that extra 10 pounds. It sounds like you've had good luck for almost 2 years now, and that is GREAT! Just 50 calories a day less would result in your being at your goal within 2 more years. That's a very obtainable goal in my opinion. Cut out a half a slice of bread a day, and you're practically there.  SignatureZilbandy what about cutting 50 calories a day until you are comfortable with that then another set to see what happens, Lee > There are two thoughts that I bounce back and forth between that seem > somewhat contradictory: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > doug > what about cutting 50 calories a day until you are comfortable with that > then another set to see what happens, That sounds very reasonable. I am really paranoid about "tweaking" anything, but that sounds very reasonable. doug if I have learned one thing its that nothing I do this week will make me wake up at my top weight this week, small changes is how I lost it. if you cut the calories and it freaks you out you can always add them back, let us know how it goes, Lee > > what about cutting 50 calories a day until you are comfortable with that > > then another set to see what happens, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > doug Your fear of tweaking needs to be overcome. Getting down to goal and learning to eat right is a life time learning process. You have to be willing to make changes along the way. Once you get to goal the hard part only starts. Learn to make the changes now. I like Lee's philosophy-don't make a change unless it is something you can live with for the rest of your life. Look at what you are eating. Start looking for more ways to further reduce your calorie intake. Swap out a beef meal for a chicken or fish. Swap a fruit for a veggie. Look at your snacks and replace one with a fruit or veggie if you are having a cake-like treat. Look for lower calorie brands of the foods you like. Swap out starchy veggies (beans/potato) for leafy ones. Cut back on sauces and condiments. Cut back on the number of times you eat out. Little things like that should not freak you out but will help towards getting the scale moving again. Another suggestion....look at your meals. Are you having the same breakfast every day? My leader is a firm believer that our bodies get used to where our calories come from. Have a different breakfast every day. Develop a list of breakfasts and alternate them. Keep your body guessing. >> what about cutting 50 calories a day until you are comfortable with that >> then another set to see what happens, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > doug > what about cutting 50 calories a day until you are comfortable with that > then another set to see what happens Or 100. Now that Doug is well into his plan and it has worked well it's no longer time to attempt big changes. In computers there are joke words frob, twiddle and tweak. If you see someone twisting dials because it looks like it's fun, that's frobbing. If you see someone turning the dial and it looks like they are hunting for stations, that's twiddling. If you seen someone making tiny little adjustments on a knob and checking to see if the change had any effect, that tweaking. It's time for some tweaking Doug. Step out in faith - No small change is going to be a problem. I see an effort-reward trade-off. When I was in my losing phase I made it to 10 pounds from goal and stalled. Reading around it was clear that careful calorie control would be needed to get lower. I decided the work involved meant more to me than those extra 10 pounds. I was already down 40 at the time and felt great so I declared maintenance. So suggest trying 100 less per day. See if it triggers much more hunger. See if it triggers a gradual decline in weight. No hunger, maybe try another 100 next month. No weight, maybe try another 100 next month. Yes to both, figure your effort and your reward ... Also consider that your current calorie intake doesn't have to be your maintenance intake. More calories doesn't always mean more stable weight. There is some sized range of intake calories that all end up the same weight. No idea what that range is for any one person but it's not 50 calories per day. Thanks people. I shall take a leap of faith into a small calorie reduction and see what happens... Also, as Laura suggested, I am re-examining my daily meals for substitutions and variety. In fact, I do eat almost the same breakfast every day. And lunch. And dinner. doug good for you!!! Lee > Thanks people. I shall take a leap of faith into a small calorie > reduction and see what happens... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > doug > There are two thoughts that I bounce back and forth between that seem > somewhat contradictory: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > doug Cutting calories too low can get tough... any chance you can up your activity level somewhat and see what that does? If that doesn't help, then you could cut the calories a little. SignatureCynthia 262/241.5/152 it may take time but you will get there, How do I know? because I know I will get there, Lee > Well, I've been on my diet 700 days now without going off even once. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > doug > Well, I've been on my diet 700 days now without going off even once. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > doug Something to consider: I recently had a physical after losing 65 lbs. I had gone from 260 to 195 lbs. According to all the "charts" I am still 10-12 lbs over the ideal weight for my height. The doc did all the bloodwork stuff and the results indicated that all the stuff they check for including sugar, cholesterol and my blood pressure were perfect. He told me to forget about losing any more weight. When I mentioned the ideal weight charts he told me that a better measure is the blood work results and there was no reason or anything to be gained by losing more and, in fact, I could screw things up by dropping more. RCE >>Well, I've been on my diet 700 days now without going off even once. >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > RCE Or one could have their bodyfat measured to see if it was in a satisfactory range. Or one could ask if their appearance and physical abilities were satisfactory in addition to blood chemistry and other medical parameters. Or, what makes you say you are still overweight? BMI chart? SignatureDel Cecchi "This post is my own and doesn’t necessarily represent IBM’s positions, strategies or opinions.” > Or, what makes you say you are still overweight? BMI chart? That. And a decidedly flabby stomach with still lots of visible overhang. Though "loose skin", I'm happy to say, really has shrunken a lot! doug I wonder how losing more could screw things up?...Doctors say the strangest things...So much "opinion"is often espoused as fact...If in fact the additional loss makes you happy then there is something to be gained...If on the other hand you have an unhealthy view of your body then I guess the statement holds true...GG >> Well, I've been on my diet 700 days now without going off even once. >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > RCE Agreed, weight itself is only a number though... that's not what really matters... It's all about how you feel, how healthy you are, how you like your look... etc.. Will~ >I wonder how losing more could screw things up?...Doctors say the strangest >things...So much "opinion"is often espoused as fact...If in fact the [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> >> RCE > I wonder how losing more could screw things up?...Doctors say the strangest > things...So much "opinion"is often espoused as fact...If in fact the [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Right. There are a lot of people with good blood work who are way overweight, too, so that doesn't even seem to be a good reason to not lose more weight. The medical ranges (based on longevity) for weight is what the doctor should be looking at, and perhaps he is if you are already in that range. Still, YOUR opinion is most important if it is still within the medical range for healthy weight. If I were down to eating fewer than 1800 calories and still not losing weight, I would increase the exercise a little. The weight you regained is perhaps muscle, too, so that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Under 1400 calories would really be restrictive. You could do it of course, but it might be torture, and everybody, including sedentary old people need about 1600 cal. to sustain themselves. I really like what you said about not straying from your diet even once. To me, that is the key. I also NEVER overeat, although lots of people seem to be able to do it and then have to make up for the splurge. It simply would not be worth it to me. I went from 230 lbs. to 133 and have kept it off for nearly 3 years now...and I also put on a little weight which was muscle, but I'm happy with that. I eat 1700 cal a day, but I am only 5'8". I exercise moderately 6X a week. During my weight loss, I did eat as few as 1300 cal a day, but can't really recommend that as a good way to go. I like the suggestion of eating just 50 cal fewer plus perhaps a little more exercise as a better way, since you are already ALMOST where you want to be. Good luck. dkw >... and everybody, including >sedentary old people need about 1600 cal. to sustain themselves. I'm not sure where you get your data. I've been told by nursing home nutritionists -- and this is corroborated by BMR calculators -- that a small, sedentary elderly woman (like my late mother) needs about 1000-1100 calories per day to sustain life. My maintenance level is about 1600 calories per day. I am hardly sedentary; I exercise almost every day -- either running 3 miles or so or lifting (as heavy as I can) plus yoga. And at 59 I do not consider myself "old". Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 Chris, old isn't about age... it's about physical ability and attitude.. one thing's sure you're not old! You make me tired everytime I read your daily activity! ;op Will~ >>... and everybody, including >>sedentary old people need about 1600 cal. to sustain themselves. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > 262/130s/130s > started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 > Right. There are a lot of people with good blood work who are way > overweight, too, so that doesn't even seem to be a good reason to not > lose more weight. The medical ranges (based on longevity) for weight > is what the doctor should be looking at, and perhaps he is if you are > already in that range. Still, YOUR opinion is most important if it is > still within the medical range for healthy weight. You are confusing the issue. Who said anything about being "way overweight"? The OP was saying that although he (she) had lost a good amount of weight, he (she) would still like to lose another 10 lbs or so but was having difficulty getting it off. I was offering an example of my personal, similar experience. In my case the doctor pointed out that the need to lose weight is both obvious (appearance) but is also usually indicated by the excess weight's affect on your general health and other factors like blood sugar levels, cholesterol and blood pressure/heart rate. When I mentioned to him that, according to the current ideal weight tables I was still 10-12 lbs or so overweight, his comment was that all my readings and results were "excellent" and that there was no medical reason or benefit to be gained by losing more. He's also aware that I exercise daily. He specifically said, "You don't need to lose anymore weight". RCE Congrats Doug - you're an inspiration to me. So glad you are still posting here. Eddie Weight June05-359.0lbs Current Weight-291.2lbs Loss to date=67.8lbs Goal Weight-180.0lbs Well, I've been on my diet 700 days now without going off even once. The good news is that I've lost and kept off about 42 kg = 92 lb. Also I feel great and I'm wearing normal clothes sizes, etc. Neighbors often do a double-take and say they didn't recognize me at first. The frustrating news is that my weight has hovered around 83-84 kg for months now and that I am actually a few kilograms heavier than my low beginning-of-the-year weight of 79.8 kg and just can't seem to lose any more weight lately. I would really like to lose another 10-20 lb because I'm still overweight. Anyway, just sticking to things as best I can... doug > Congrats Doug - you're an inspiration to me. So glad you are still posting > here. > > Eddie Eddie! I've been thinking about you and glad to see you are posting too. How are things going? doug Things are well Doug, glad you've been thinking about me. I will post more in the other thread. It's really good to hear from you! Eddie Weight June05-359.0lbs Current Weight-291.2lbs Loss to date=67.8lbs Goal Weight-180.0lbs On May 8, 8:30 am, "Eddie-Type2" <eddies(-)draft...@cogeco.ca> wrote: > Congrats Doug - you're an inspiration to me. So glad you are still posting > here. > > Eddie Eddie! I've been thinking about you and glad to see you are posting too. How are things going? doug |
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