There doesn't seem to be much of a difference for me, and I'm wondering if
somebody can shed a little light on this, by definition, by the way eating a
certain amount makes you feel, etc.
Nick Chan - 10 Aug 2007 02:25 GMT
for me satisfied == full
stuffed == bloated and pain in stomach eating too much
> There doesn't seem to be much of a difference for me, and I'm wondering if
> somebody can shed a little light on this, by definition, by the way eating a
> certain amount makes you feel, etc.
Jeri - 10 Aug 2007 12:09 GMT
> There doesn't seem to be much of a difference for me, and I'm
> wondering if somebody can shed a little light on this, by definition,
> by the way eating a certain amount makes you feel, etc.
I can't give you a definition except that when I eat until I'm stuffed it's
a very uncomfortable feeling. The trick is to know when o stop before you
get to that point.
I find it easier to know when I'm full if I eat slowly. If I eat quickly,
many times I'll be stuffed before realizing I was full. It takes awhile for
the brain to get the signal that the stomach is full.

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Nick Chan - 13 Aug 2007 05:32 GMT
good answer
i have habit of not chewing my food
just one bite of meat and swallow
i can eat whole 3 plates of rice. i will now remind myself to chew and
eat slowly.
> > There doesn't seem to be much of a difference for me, and I'm
> > wondering if somebody can shed a little light on this, by definition,
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> Jeri
> "Change is inevitable, except from vending machines."
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 10 Aug 2007 16:30 GMT
> There doesn't seem to be much of a difference for me, and I'm wondering if
> somebody can shed a little light on this, by definition, by the way eating a
> certain amount makes you feel, etc.
Yes. A very good question, because I think it is at the heart of being
overweight. It is my belief that many overweight people do not have a
good mechanism to tell them when they "should" be full. This may be
partly evolutionary..you know, our ancient ancestors needing to eat as
much as possible when they had the opportunity cause they never knew
when the next meal might stumble accross their paths.
You know how thin people eat, right? They eat like birds! Just a few
bites and they say they are full, and I have no reason to doubt them.
But people who have ever been overweight recognize that they cannot
depend on their bodies telling them when they have had enough. When I
was overweight, I could eat 2X what I needed, and still want
more...and eat more. Was I stuffed? Yes, but I didn't mind the
feeling. The flip side of this is that I am never really starved. At
nighttime, I do crave food and even dream about it, but by the time
morning comes, I am often less hungry than I was 6 or so hours
earlier. What all this tells me is that I have to take control of my
caloric intake and forget about being hungry, full, half-full,
satisfied or whatever. In fact, that is exactly what I do and did. I
eat EXACTLY 1800 cal. per day...then I STOP. My weight stays at a slim
and trim 135. dkw
Cubit - 10 Aug 2007 23:41 GMT
Sometimes it takes a 10 minute pause for my body to tell me what I have
done.
Are you a clean your plate person?
> There doesn't seem to be much of a difference for me, and I'm wondering if
> somebody can shed a little light on this, by definition, by the way eating
> a certain amount makes you feel, etc.
em - 11 Aug 2007 00:28 GMT
> Sometimes it takes a 10 minute pause for my body to tell me what I have
> done.
>
> Are you a clean your plate person?
Yes, the plate, the table, the stove and whatever leftovers are in the
fridge. I usually buy groceries one day at a time, unless its something like
meat on sale that I can bring home and stick in the freezer. Re. cooking, I
cook only what I plan to eat for any particular meal. No leftovers around
here!
My eating habits have actually begun to improve. I went to a restaurant the
other day, ate fish, stayed away from the stuff I knew I shouldn't have, and
ended up bringing home a big chunk of salmon for later on. I would *never*
have done that before. Not finishing what's on the plate is a new experience
for me. I'm just hoping it will stick.
Cubit - 11 Aug 2007 05:24 GMT
>> Sometimes it takes a 10 minute pause for my body to tell me what I have
>> done.
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> would *never* have done that before. Not finishing what's on the plate is
> a new experience for me. I'm just hoping it will stick.
You have a serious problem.
I would try to find something that might be missing in your diet. I'm
hoping that your food cravings are from some chronic deficit. Otherwise, I
don't know what to suggest.
(except for my belief in Atkins...)
em - 11 Aug 2007 11:00 GMT
>>> Sometimes it takes a 10 minute pause for my body to tell me what I have
>>> done.
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> I don't know what to suggest.
> (except for my belief in Atkins...)
I never had that built-in off switch, I bet that many others were or are
missing it too. I ate like a pig and I got fat. Atkins seems to be giving me
that off switch, but its too early to tell.
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 11 Aug 2007 13:49 GMT
> >>> Sometimes it takes a 10 minute pause for my body to tell me what I have
> >>> done.
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On the other hand, my diet is about as far from Atkins as you can get.
I eat very low fat and lots of carbs on my vegetarian diet. Calories
are the key and you must count calories on Atkins or any other diet
plan if it is going to work. To me the only good questions are which
diet is healthier, gives you the most satisfaction, is convenient,
practical, etc, because otherwise it is ONLY counting calories.
Amazingly, many people seem to think there is more to losing and
maintaining weight than that.
Since people are all a little different, there is not one diet plan
that will work best for all. Some seem to love Atkins and it works for
them. For others, it would not and did not work out. Same with any
diet. dkw
honeybunch - 11 Aug 2007 19:48 GMT
I guess if you have been used to overeating you could start a new
regime by setting the table for your meal with your plate full of
recommended portions. Make it your goal to get used to that amount.
You'll probably get hungry again in a short period of time but its a
start. Perhaps your feelings will change. One can only hope. Just
remember that starving people do not feel hungry. Satisfied, full and
stuffed feelings are up to you.
> There doesn't seem to be much of a difference for me, and I'm wondering if
> somebody can shed a little light on this, by definition, by the way eating a
> certain amount makes you feel, etc.
Doug Freyburger - 13 Aug 2007 18:46 GMT
> There doesn't seem to be much of a difference for me, and I'm wondering if
> somebody can shed a little light on this, by definition, by the way eating a
> certain amount makes you feel, etc.
Welcome to how I got fat in the first place. While I know that Atkins
(and any diet system) is about long term right-sizing my portions it
has taken me years to figure out what reasonable portions *mean*.
Weighing, carb counting, calorie counting helped. Eventually I
learned what size was right.
As to full, when I was a carb eater I over-stuffed so I had no idea
what regular-full was. It's something I learned slow but sure. It
sounds like that's what you're doing now. Keep with it.