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How much fat do I need?

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dkw12002@yahoo.com - 24 Aug 2007 01:32 GMT
Try finding out this information on the internet and what almost all
the articles talk about is not what you NEED, but what the upper limit
recommendation is. Apparently, people love their fat so much they
don't want to know the facts. I can tell you it is very low. All the
essential fatty acids you need can be consumed in 3% of the total
calories. Do you need to restrict yourself to this small amount. No,
of course not, but essentially, nobody has to worry about getting
enough fat...only too much. There is fat in almost ALL foods,
including vegetables and fruit. You wouldn't want to eat 3% of your
total calories in cholesterol or a saturated fat though. It should be
omega-3 and omega-6. A couple of omega complex caps a day would assure
this, as would anything approaching a balanced diet. Like protein,
getting ENOUGH fat is not even worth the time to think about, IMO.
Come on defenders of your high-fat diets and tell me how healthy it
is!

The reason I limit my diet to 10% fat or slightly less is simple. 1) I
don't need any more fat but mostly because 2) for each gram of fat I
take from my diet, I get to substitute for more than twice as much
food that is carbs and protein. One gram of fat...all fat... has 9
calories per gram, while carbs and protein each have 4 calories for
gram. Whole grain like oats, or shredded wheat are good sources of
both a little of the good fat and not much else, making them an
excellent food choice. I LOVE the puffed wheat and puffed rice cereal
which is 100% whole grain (along with shredded wheat and oatmeal), and
that is the ONLY ingredient. Misleading advertising allows companies
to put a huge sign on other products saying "made with whole
grain"...breads, Wheaties, Cheeries, crackers, etc. write this in huge
letters on the front of their product. Problem is, the product often
contains only a small amount of the whole grain with the rest sugars,
fats, and more refined grains. dkw
Zilbandy - 24 Aug 2007 02:14 GMT
>Try finding out this information on the internet and what almost all
>the articles talk about is not what you NEED, but what the upper limit
>recommendation is. Apparently, people love their fat so much they
>don't want to know the facts. I can tell you it is very low. All the
>essential fatty acids you need can be consumed in 3% of the total
>calories.

I think you dropped a zero on that 3% figure. The information I've
found, and talking to registered dieticians, indicates that a
"healthy" diet consists of about 30% of your daily calories coming
from fat, with about 45-50% coming from carbohydrates and the
remaining 20-25% coming from protein.

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dkw12002@yahoo.com - 24 Aug 2007 14:57 GMT
> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:32:26 -0700, "dkw12...@yahoo.com"
>
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> Zilbandy

Nope. What you need is the essential fatty acids only as far as fat is
concerned. Your body can and will make all the rest of the fat. You
make my point, though. What the 30% fat is, is the MAXIMUM the govt.
suggests you should ingest. Many low-fat diets are 10% fat or lower
(see Dean Ornish). You must like your fat, too. LOL. Now I'm not
saying that a 30% fat diet is unhealthy. All I'm saying is that you do
not NEED anything like 30% fat. In fact, there is some evidence that
for some people...such as those with heart problems, that a much lower
intake of fat is healthier...again see Dean Ornish, etc. dkw
em - 26 Aug 2007 23:00 GMT
>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:32:26 -0700, "dkw12...@yahoo.com"
>>
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> make my point, though. What the 30% fat is, is the MAXIMUM the govt.
> suggests you should ingest.

There's nothing out there, that I know of, that says what the body human
really needs to survive. Fat, protein, carbs, seems that we need at least a
little of all three and the rest can be whichever of the other two you
didn't get. Too much fat is bad. Too much sugar is bad. Whatcha gonna do,
eat almost only protein?

I think there's one thing that everyone agrees on, that too much of
anything/everything is bad. My diet is hardley "balanced" (in any sense of
the word). I take suppliments, and I know its questionable as to whether
they're worth anything or not, or possibly harmful.

I do know that being too fat doesn't work for me: physically, emotionally,
sociologically or spiritually. So I'm low-carbing and probably eating a ton
of the "bad fats" and at least some of the "good fats" (like from fish).
Regardless of what I'm "supposed" to eat in a "balanced" diet, I am certain
that losing darn near a hundred pounds (by the time I'm done), far outweighs
the benefits of being fat and having a lot of "variety" and measured amounts
of this-and-that in my diet.

Really, though, my philosophy on life boils down to this: But for the love
of G-d go I.
Doug Freyburger - 25 Aug 2007 02:36 GMT
"dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Try finding out this information on the internet and what almost all
> the articles talk about is not what you NEED, but what the upper limit
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> this, as would anything approaching a balanced diet. Like protein,
> getting ENOUGH fat is not even worth the time to think about, IMO.

What I've read is the absolute bottom is around 6-8 grams, but to
get that low there's nothing I've ever read that says how to estimate
the ratio of omega-3 to omega-6.  I don't see a way to go under 12
to 16 then.  It would be very hard to get that low without getting a
bunch more fat grams from other types to achieve it.

> Come on defenders of your high-fat diets and tell me how healthy it
> is!

Pass.  You've spammed ASDLC with low fat assertions so you aren't
going to believe that low carb works.  It does and for a sizable
percentage
of folks it works better than low fat.  Not that low fat is bad for
everyone,
just that it is no magic bullet.
 
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