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Irrational Number - 27 Aug 2007 06:49 GMT
Do you have to feel hungry to be losing
weight?

-- Anita --
Cynthia P - 27 Aug 2007 08:07 GMT
> Do you have to feel hungry to be losing
> weight?
>
> -- Anita --

No.

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em - 27 Aug 2007 09:15 GMT
>> Do you have to feel hungry to be losing
>> weight?
>>
>> -- Anita --
>
> No.

But... that is often what it takes when starting out. To just keep eating
whenever you "feel hungry" is the path to hell for many people.

Also, being hungry is OK & something you need to get used to. I'm not good
at it, myself, but some of my slender friends say that they always stop
eating when they are still a little hungry, but feel better later on.

One day I'll be slender & maybe I'll be like that too ;-)

Em
Sixty pounds down & 20 to go? (Maybe 40! I dunno.)
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 27 Aug 2007 12:33 GMT
> >> Do you have to feel hungry to be losing
> >> weight?
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> Em
> Sixty pounds down & 20 to go? (Maybe 40! I dunno.)

Exactly. In fact, overeating is not so closely related to feeling
hungry because some people are almost always hungry...even after
eating a huge meal. Others of course, the kind of people not found on
this message board, take a couple of bites of something and are full.
I just wouldn't trust being hungry as a good sign of whether I should
eat or not, since it failed me miserably in the past. Yes, I a little
hungry a lot of the time too, but prefer being thin and hungry to fat
and hungry. dkw
em - 27 Aug 2007 20:01 GMT
>> >> Do you have to feel hungry to be losing
>> >> weight?
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> hungry because some people are almost always hungry...even after
> eating a huge meal.

This was always my problem. No matter how much I ate, 20 minutes later I was
hungry.

Doing low-cal helped a lot but often left me hungry. Low carb has been like
a godsend for me because it really helps to control my hunger.

> Others of course, the kind of people not found on
> this message board, take a couple of bites of something and are full.

My daughter is a picky eater. She fusses around with her food, picks off
almost invisble pieces of fat or whatever off her food. That used to kind of
bother me, but now I think its great. I see adults who pick through their
food and leave stuff on their plate when they're done eating. Guess what --  
they're skinny!

> [I] prefer being thin and hungry to fat
> and hungry. dkw

Well said. That'd be a good tagline.
Cynthia P - 27 Aug 2007 16:46 GMT
>>> Do you have to feel hungry to be losing
>>> weight?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> But... that is often what it takes when starting out. To just keep eating
> whenever you "feel hungry" is the path to hell for many people.

Oh, I agree that it can be the case, but the poster asked if you have
to feel that, and not everone does.

Also, too many people seem to feel that to lose weight, you must
practically STARVE yourself... and if you cut calories too low, well,
usually the results aren't good, i.e. you can't stick with it, and
eventually rebound. Or you stall for long periods. Or you lose a lot
of muscle mass in addition to fat and that sets you up for a possible
rebound at the least.

Been there, done that, was hungry... found I lose better if I eat
enough calories. And that I'm not hungry when I do.

Well, maybe except for after my swim! Swim hungries are big time! But
I have a post workout drink right after and that holds me until I can
get to my next meal.

> Also, being hungry is OK & something you need to get used to. I'm not good
> at it, myself, but some of my slender friends say that they always stop
> eating when they are still a little hungry, but feel better later on.

I definitely felt hungry while I was doing that low carb kickstart
diet that I did for the challenge... but that was also lower calorie
than I was used to by about 500 calories per day at 1700 or so
calories, when my norm for losing is 2200.

It may be that as I lose and drop calories, it will get that way, but
so far so good, and not much in the way of physical hunger pangs.
Mental ones... those are the hard ones to fight, LOL!

> One day I'll be slender & maybe I'll be like that too ;-)
>
> Em
> Sixty pounds down & 20 to go? (Maybe 40! I dunno.)

Sixty pounds down is good stuff!

I saw a lower number on my scale yesterday... not there this morning,
but a good sign that I'm moving in the right direction! So glad the
pool is open at the gym again, or supposed to be!

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em - 27 Aug 2007 20:03 GMT
"Cynthia P" <nospam@dontwannit.net> wrote

> 262/227/152

Thirty-five pounds. Go girl. You rock!
Cynthia P - 28 Aug 2007 23:07 GMT
> "Cynthia P" <nospam@dontwannit.net> wrote
>
>> 262/227/152
>
> Thirty-five pounds. Go girl. You rock!

I hit that pool hard, LOL! Everyone was so excited to have it back in
operation, instead of being able to get a swim lane before class, I
did a quarter mile of pool jogging.

Then swam a half hour after class. And I was going hard in water
aerobics too. It felt good!

Pool was nice and clean after the maintenance, I guess they drained it
and scrubbed down and refilled.

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Kaz Kylheku - 27 Aug 2007 21:15 GMT
> > Do you have to feel hungry to be losing
> > weight?
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> Cynthia
> 262/227/152

Your ``no'' is consistent with your present 227 pound weight.

On your way to your stated goal weight, which seventy five pounds
away, you will have to confront hunger.

How tall are you? Your goal weight calls for a good six feet, a height
that is rare among women.

When you get to a reasonable weight, then you can come back and teach
others about what is and isn't required along the way.
Doug Freyburger - 28 Aug 2007 22:56 GMT
> > > Do you have to feel hungry to be losing weight?
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Your ``no'' is consistent with your present 227 pound weight.

262 - 227 = 35 pounds.  How long has it taken you to lose
those 35 pounds, Cynthia?  Under 35 weeks so far I think.

> On your way to your stated goal weight, which seventy five pounds
> away, you will have to confront hunger.

Even the blind idiot squirrel like Kaz occasionally finds a
nut.  There doesn't seem to be any way out of hunger in the
last 10 maybe 20 pounds.

> How tall are you? Your goal weight calls for a good six feet, a height
> that is rare among women.
>
> When you get to a reasonable weight, then you can come back and teach
> others about what is and isn't required along the way.

Given what you think of as reasonable, no wonder you call for
hunger.  A six foot woman weighing 152 pounds?  She'd look
like a broom stick.  And she'd be starving hungry.
Cynthia P - 28 Aug 2007 23:26 GMT
>>> > Do you have to feel hungry to be losing weight?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> 262 - 227 = 35 pounds.  How long has it taken you to lose
> those 35 pounds, Cynthia?  Under 35 weeks so far I think.

I haven't actually counted the weeks... but since October 9. That was
when I hit my high weight of 262 again and started losing. There have
been setbacks, i.e. being sick for a month and a half this winter and
the plantar fasciitis this spring and I'm now having some trouble with
my left shoulder, from a prior injury, but I'm carrying on.

>> On your way to your stated goal weight, which seventy five pounds
>> away, you will have to confront hunger.
>
> Even the blind idiot squirrel like Kaz occasionally finds a
> nut.  There doesn't seem to be any way out of hunger in the
> last 10 maybe 20 pounds.

This could well be true. However, the original question was simple and
for much of the journey to goal, I don't expect hunger to be a
problem.

>> How tall are you? Your goal weight calls for a good six feet, a height
>> that is rare among women.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> hunger.  A six foot woman weighing 152 pounds?  She'd look
> like a broom stick.  And she'd be starving hungry.

The first time I lost weight, I actually didn't look half bad at 165
pounds... though I probably still would have wanted to lose more than
that, I just stalled big time, because way back then, I was losing
through starving.

At any rate, the goal is just to get me to a ballpark from which I can
then re-assess and set further goals if desired.

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Cynthia P - 28 Aug 2007 23:20 GMT
>>> Do you have to feel hungry to be losing
>>> weight?
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> On your way to your stated goal weight, which seventy five pounds
> away, you will have to confront hunger.

We shall see. At any rate, I did confront it for a while on the
kickstart diet... and survived it just fine, thank you!

> How tall are you? Your goal weight calls for a good six feet, a height
> that is rare among women.

5'7"

My goal is not a final goal. It is where I want to get to first and
evaluate from there. At my age, I'm not sure the best look will be an
ultrathin one.

> When you get to a reasonable weight, then you can come back and teach
> others about what is and isn't required along the way.

Well, along the way right now, hunger is not required for me. And
considering that I have eaten at lower levels than presently and still
not been hungry, it probably isn't required for some time to come.

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Kaz Kylheku - 27 Aug 2007 21:03 GMT
> Do you have to feel hungry to be losing
> weight?

Hunger is a normal sensation that people feel several times a day,
even though they are maintaining a normal weight.

To lose body fat safely and permanently, you don't have to feel any /
more/ hunger than this normal hunger. You just have to create a mild
caloric deficit through nutrition and exercise and maintain it over a
sufficiently long time to burn off the fat.

If you don't ever feel hunger, you must be heavily overeating.
Obviously, you have to stop doing that, which will involve re-
acquainting yourself with the sensation of hunger. Note that cessation
of overeating isn't the same thing as going on a diet.
 
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