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Mitch@... - 12 Nov 2007 15:36 GMT
My son chose this as the meal he wants to help make this week:
http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Four-Cheese-Macaroni/Detail.aspx

Looks like I'll be having a Lean Cuisine that night.
julie_werekatt@hotmail.com - 12 Nov 2007 23:59 GMT
That actually looks really REALLY good....think I'll cut it down to
two portions (leftover mac and cheese = nasty), leave out the eggs and
throw in some baby broccoli. Yum, dinner!
Kaz Kylheku - 13 Nov 2007 01:25 GMT
> My son chose this as the meal he wants to help make this week:http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Four-Cheese-Macaroni/Detail.aspx
>
> Looks like I'll be having a Lean Cuisine that night.

Over the past few weeks, I've taken a break from my usual low fat
nutrition program. Or rather, I've added to it by eating things like,
oh, several pounds of cheese (30% fat), two 400 g chocolate bars, a
500g jar of peanut butter and lots of vey fatty salmon.

My body composition and weight haven't done a damn thing. However, I
have a higher resting heart rate, higher temperature and a higher
energy level which has ``turbocharged'' my workouts.

Burning fat is easy. Mobilizing it is the challenge: getting it move
out of the adipose tissue and into the furnace. Once it gets there,
it's gone. The furnace can't tell the difference between a bit of
mobilized body fat and a dollop of butter. If it can easily burn one,
it can easily burn the other.

So, save a piece of the ``quattro fromagi casserole'' for me. :)
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 13 Nov 2007 02:29 GMT
> > My son chose this as the meal he wants to help make this week:http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Four-Cheese-Macaroni/Detail.aspx
>
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> So, save a piece of the ``quattro fromagi casserole'' for me. :)

Why would you do this to yourself?  Playit safe and not eat this kind
of food ever. Lots of thin people die from heart attacks and far as I
know cheese is loaded with cholesterol if it is 30% fat. I know it
must taste good, but that is a survival instinct kicking in. Nature
doesn't really care if you drop dead with a heart attack if you have
already produced offspring in other words. Nature is still concerned
with you getting enough to eat, so you like the high fat foods.
Hopefully, you can show more discipline though and overcome those
unhealthy urges. If you really must have milk products, try the nonfat
yoghurt, or nonfat cheeses. Better yet, try the 8th Continent Light
soy drink which has no cholesterol, low fat and only 90 cal per cup.
It is absolutely delicious. I use lactose free fat free milk on my
cereal though. dkw
Phil M. - 19 Nov 2007 03:36 GMT
kkylheku@gmail.com wrote:

> My body composition and weight haven't done a damn thing. However, I
> have a higher resting heart rate

A higher resting heart rate is not a good thing. Sometimes this means a
lack of fitness or some sort of illness.

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Kaz Kylheku - 19 Nov 2007 04:49 GMT
> kkylh...@gmail.com wrote:
> > My body composition and weight haven't done a damn thing. However, I
> > have a higher resting heart rate
>
> A higher resting heart rate is not a good thing. Sometimes this means a
> lack of fitness or some sort of illness.

By higher I mean around 46. :)

This weekend it was observed at 38! Not even upon waking in the
morning, which I did at six, but Saturday at around noon! That's some
kind of personal best.

So, no, I definitely do not lack fitness, and I haven't been ill in
years.

Over the past week, I went low fat again. I didn't touch any cheese,
or chocolate or anything. Plenty of carbs, lean meat, vegetables, etc.
Fat mostly from flax seed oil and low fat dairy. Fewer calories, so
down goes the heart rate.
Phil M. - 20 Nov 2007 00:01 GMT
kkylheku@gmail.com wrote:

>> kkylh...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > My body composition and weight haven't done a damn thing. However, I
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> By higher I mean around 46. :)

If it's higher than your norm, then it's still not a good thing. My resting
pulse is usually in the upper 30s (distance runner). If it started to be in
the mid 40s, then I would start to wonder if I were getting ill or possibly
may be over-training.

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dkw12002@yahoo.com - 13 Nov 2007 02:21 GMT
> My son chose this as the meal he wants to help make this week:http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Four-Cheese-Macaroni/Detail.aspx
>
> Looks like I'll be having a Lean Cuisine that night.

Sounds very unhealthy. Far too much fat including cholesterol. dkw
Manco - 13 Nov 2007 03:17 GMT
> My son chose this as the meal he wants to help make this week:
> http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Four-Cheese-Macaroni/Detail.aspx
>
> Looks like I'll be having a Lean Cuisine that night.

My god, that's a heart attach in 24 hours.
Mitch@... - 13 Nov 2007 03:37 GMT
>My god, that's a heart attach in 24 hours.

Yeah...and a bowel obstruction!
Please...I didn't post that to entice anyone.  This is a recipe that
the old me would have loved.

The new me gags at a stick of butter and a mountain of cheese.
I thought everyone would say "Eeeeww, gross.  Fat."
So " Yum, that sounds good" makes me feel bad.  :-)

This is for the kids to embrace cooking.

I bought WW pasta, and low fat versions of all the cheeses and
half-and-half.

Even then, it's still too fat for me.  I'll taste it, but that's all.
I have a great Healthy Choice sesame chicken for tomorrow.
Manco - 13 Nov 2007 04:13 GMT
> This is for the kids to embrace cooking.
>
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> Even then, it's still too fat for me.  I'll taste it, but that's all.
> I have a great Healthy Choice sesame chicken for tomorrow.

Why even give this to kids? I wish now that my parents never fed me Mac N
CHeese.
A Ross - 13 Nov 2007 14:08 GMT
> > This is for the kids to embrace cooking.
> >
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> Why even give this to kids? I wish now that my parents never fed me Mac N
> CHeese.

Funny--I made from-scratch mac and cheese last night. The family loves
it, I don't eat it. I can think of worse things to put in ones mouth.

Amy

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Beverly - 14 Nov 2007 00:08 GMT
>>My god, that's a heart attach in 24 hours.
>
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> Even then, it's still too fat for me.  I'll taste it, but that's all.
> I have a great Healthy Choice sesame chicken for tomorrow.

Sounds like a good plan, Mitch.

I think it's a great idea to teach the kids that lower fat/calorie items can
be used in a recipe.  I haven't had macaroni and cheese for ages but I
always loved it when my aunt made it for me as a child.

Beverly
Mitch@... - 16 Nov 2007 17:38 GMT
I made it last night.  I just had a spoonful.  It really was the best
mac & cheese I've ever tasted.  But then, anything with a stick of
butter and a mountain of cheese is going to taste good.

I had grilled salmon.  Yum.
Manco - 17 Nov 2007 01:59 GMT
> I made it last night.  I just had a spoonful.  It really was the best
> mac & cheese I've ever tasted.  But then, anything with a stick of
> butter and a mountain of cheese is going to taste good.
>
> I had grilled salmon.  Yum.

I'll take the grilled salmon with lemon.
determined - 14 Nov 2007 20:25 GMT
I still enjoy those old indulgences - but infrequently.  Some of the stuff I
will never touch again (most fast food).  But things with ooey gooey melted
cheese or chocolate or peanut butter, yeah, their still on the list.

>>My god, that's a heart attach in 24 hours.
>
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> Even then, it's still too fat for me.  I'll taste it, but that's all.
> I have a great Healthy Choice sesame chicken for tomorrow.
Chris - 15 Nov 2007 01:31 GMT
> I still enjoy those old indulgences - but infrequently.  Some of the stuff I
> will never touch again (most fast food).  But things with ooey gooey melted
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Yeah, me too.  For me, the thing to do with something like macaroni
and cheese is to have a small portion as a side dish, along with
something healthy like lean meat or fish.

Chris
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