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Pritikin: my ticket to longevity
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Old Boy - 18 Feb 2008 16:09 GMT Celebrated New Yorker theatre critic John Lahr heaps praise on a fat farm that actually works
News on the transatlantic fat front these days is not good. Thirty-one per cent of Americans are clinically obese; at twenty-three per cent, the British are not far behind, with new studies showing that by 2050 nine out of ten adult Brits will be either overweight or obese.
The message is clearly not getting through to those eating high on the processed food chain. Oppressed by affluence and by entropy, the inhabitants of the fat First World are increasingly faced with hard choices for their soft life: either change soon or die early. But how?
"Nobody gets out of life alive," Tennessee Williams said; however, since 1975, in order to improve the odds on long life, over 100,000 mostly ageing, unhealthy, overweight, affluent souls like myself have found their way to Pritikin Longevity Centre, not so much a fat farm as a boot camp for hardcore health, which now resides in Miami, Florida.
It houses up to 110 guests at £2,500 a week in peak season (December- March) and £2,000 off-peak. The price is high; but then so are the stakes. How much is getting healthy worth to you?
Interesting diary and report on Pritikin diet
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?storyID=17906
Cookie Cutter - 18 Feb 2008 17:16 GMT Pritikin has been around 33 years. If it actually worked any better than any other program out there for long term weight loss, Pritiken, himself, would have received a posthumous Nobel prize. This ultra, ultra low fat program works just fine while people are imprisoned at its retreats, but so do all the other programs out there that isolate people to control what they eat.
> Celebrated New Yorker theatre critic John Lahr heaps praise on a fat > farm that actually works [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?storyID=17906 Old Boy - 18 Feb 2008 18:12 GMT I did think its very easy to eat healthily while you are at a 'retreat'
Id imagine the weight comes back on when youre back in the real world and eating day to day food....!
> Pritikin has been around 33 years. If it actually worked any better > than any other program out there for long term weight loss, Pritiken, [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Cookie Cutter - 18 Feb 2008 18:55 GMT They are also very, very pricey. If were going to spend that kind of money, I would want a spa retreat in Paris or Rome, or maybe Tahiti!
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> I did think its very easy to eat healthily while you are at a > 'retreat' [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> retreats, but so do all the other programs out there that isolate people >> to control what they eat. dkw12002@yahoo.com - 18 Feb 2008 22:31 GMT > I did think its very easy to eat healthily while you are at a > 'retreat' [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Hey, you can even eat healthy on a cruise ship once a person decides they are serious about dieting. I did it, so I know. I managed to come back exactly the same weight I left. The captain or somebody said the average person on a cruise gains 4 or 5 pounds, I don't remember which. anyway, they always have food...ALWAYS and a huge selection. Fortunately that selection includes foods that work for any diet I am aware of, and if it doesn't, they will even provide food for you that does fit your diet, if you talk to them ahead of the cruise. I go out to eat with others who are not dieting all the time, but I never eat anything that does not conform to my diet. I also eat very low fat. You just can't eat something because it is presented to you or you are obviously gonna fail. Easy for me to say, but I did lose a bunch of weight. Nancy Reagan was right. Just say no. dkw
Old Boy - 19 Feb 2008 16:50 GMT Just reading the second day of the Pritikin diaries
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?storyID=18010
"The Pritikin weight control system comes down to this: calories in, calories out. Without doing anything, in each day's business of existing, the body naturally burns a certain amount of calories. This is called Resting Metabolic Rate - a crucial number which, for a small charge, Pritikin will measure for each guest."
It really is common sense - dont eat more calories than you can burn...and I note there is a 'small charge' for helping the guests!!!!!!
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?storyID=18010
On 18 Feb, 22:31, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I did think its very easy to eat healthily while you are at a > > 'retreat' [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Old Boy - 20 Feb 2008 17:42 GMT This has now been updated on Day 3 and I think its a crock...
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?storyID=18335
"Once a week, Pritikin ushers its clients through a local restaurant to show them how to healthily negotiate a calorie-dense, salt-rich menu. The rules are: start meals with a salad (bring your own dressing); ask about preparation methods and request no added oils, butter, cream, salt or sugar; divide a main course dish between two and add two vegetable side dishes; talk to the manager and let him or her know your needs."
Who is going to do that, really?
Rubbish......living in a dream world...!!!!!!! The 3 day diary has convinced me its a waste of time!!!!!!!
> Just reading the second day of the Pritikin diaries > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Cookie Cutter - 20 Feb 2008 22:04 GMT > This has now been updated on Day 3 and I think its a crock... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Rubbish......living in a dream world...!!!!!!! > The 3 day diary has convinced me its a waste of time!!!!!!! With the money you save, you can eat steak for a year!
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 21 Feb 2008 01:45 GMT > > This has now been updated on Day 3 and I think its a crock... > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Not all that much since steak is high fat. You could buy several hundred pounds of oats, lentils and rice though. LOL dkw
Aaron Baugher - 21 Feb 2008 13:58 GMT >> > This has now been updated on Day 3 and I think its a crock... >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Not all that much since steak is high fat. You could buy several > hundred pounds of oats, lentils and rice though. LOL dkw And feed a cow which will become steaks.
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Stromata - 18 Feb 2008 19:27 GMT > Pritikin has been around 33 years. If it actually worked any better > than any other program out there for long term weight loss, Pritiken, > himself, would have received a posthumous Nobel prize. This ultra, > ultra low fat program works just fine while people are imprisoned at > its retreats, but so do all the other programs out there that isolate > people to control what they eat. It wasn't the low-fat, it was calorie restriction and exercise that did it. Once outside that envirnoment, they couldn't sustain low-fat eating, so they returned to their previous high-carb intake and they gained all the weight back and more so. Low-carb is the only sustainable weight-loss method.
Bad a.s - 21 Feb 2008 19:55 GMT > Celebrated New Yorker theatre critic John Lahr heaps praise on a fat > farm that actually works [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?storyID=17906 Actually this information is 110% useless to almost everyone. Where is the average person going to get the 4 or 5 Thousand dollars a week for this.
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