> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>> http://www.efluxmedia.com/news_Studies_Find_Obesity_Is_the_Result_of_...
>>> x_Networks_of_Genes_15250.html
>>> A new research shows that an entire network of genes in the
>>> body is disrupted by overeating and this not only causes obesity,
>> Have fun explaining why we have seen grossly more obesity
>> than we ever saw in the past, when the genes havent
>> changed significantly, right thruout the modern first world now.
>>> but also diabetes and heart disease.
>>> In two related studies, scientists at Merck Research Laboratories
>>> (MRL) and their collaborators used large-scale analyses of data
>>> on DNA variations, gene expression patterns in disease-relevant
>>> tissues and clinical data to identify molecular networks underlying
>>> metabolic disorders.
>> Neither explain that problem above.
>>> The first study, involving Merck researchers and colleagues from
>>> the University of California at Los Angeles, used liver and fat tissue
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>>> them provide new targets for anti obesity drugs because they
>>> seem key players in the genetic network that control girth.
>> Doesnt explain that problem above.
>>> The second study by researchers from Merck, the Icelandic company
>>> deCODE Genetics and the National University, Iceland involved more
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>>> constructed from human fat tissue contained a similar core group of
>>> genes found to be causally related to obesity in the mouse study.
>> Doesnt explain that problem above.
>>> "What the new methods we've developed deliver is the complex
>>> web (network) of interacting genes in disease relevant tissues
>>> that actually lead to disease. These studies strongly support
>>> the theory that common diseases such as obesity result from
>>> genetic and environmental disturbances in entire networks of
>>> genes rather than in a handful of genes.
>> No it doesnt, because of that problem above.
>>> If diseases like obesity are the result of complex networks of genes,
>> Cant be, see above.
>>> the accurate reconstruction of these networks will be critical to
>>> identifying the best therapeutic targets," Dr. Eric Schadt,
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>>> originate in the immune system and the network is
>>> enriched for genes that are involved in macrophages.
>> Doesnt explain the above.
>>> "In a normal state these things are keeping you free of infection
>>> and fighting off things that want to harm your body. This network
>>> is also significantly changed when you are on a high-fat diet," he
>>> added. The results of the studies appeared in the journal Nature.
>> Doesnt explain the above.
> If you want an explanation of why so there are so many overweight people
> now but not in the past, I would say that through most of history, getting
> enough food was difficult, so most people did not really get enough to eat.
Doesnt explain say the time just after the last century started, or say after
WW2 where that was nothing like true right thruout the modern first world.
> Evolution explains why people overeat...it is a survival instinct.
Doesnt explain why they didnt in those times I just listed.
> ONly those people who were able to overeat and probably eat fast were able
> to survive cause they never knew where the next meal was coming from.
That hasnt applied much anywhere in the first world since the industrial revolution.
> This applies to wild animals as well.
And domesticated animals not necessarily get obese even when they can
eat as much as they like whenever they like. I used to let my Alsatian help
himself from a 10KG sack of dry dog food. I used to just slash the sack
and he could help himself whenever he wanted to and I replaced the sack
with a new one whenever he had eaten the one before it.
> If you aren't agressive and eat fast, you don't survive.
Thats a very naive view of how most wild animals operate.
It doesnt even apply to the bulk of the herbivores.
> Overeating in this scenario is not going to make you obese though, cause
> you may not get to eat again for a day or two. Unfortunatly, we are stuck
> with these survival eating genes, but food is plentiful, so people overeat
> time and time again, rather than occasionally as nature intended.
Still doesnt explain why we didnt see the current levels of obesity in the times I listed above.
> Food is a necessity, so it would have had significant implications in
> many aspects of humanity. Perhaps people even became civilized and
> cooperated to hunt and gather food, or to ban together to keep other
> animals or people from stealing their food, hence socialization.
We've moved WAY past that for millennia now.
> But people did not get to the top of the evolutionary tree by being
> meek and withdrawn. They had to be aggressive too. You probably
> needed to hunt by using your brain as well and those without superior
> mental and physical skills were able to survive. Our bodies are
> anachronisms- we still crave high-calorie, high-fat foods and
> lots of it, but for most of us food is very easy to obtain today.
Still doesnt explain why we didnt see the current levels of obesity in the times I listed above.