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Not losing. Please help me.
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mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 15 Apr 2008 03:09 GMT Nobody can say I'm not trying! Here is what I ate in the last few days. Am I eating healthy? Not much physical activity, and not much stool in the last few days either. I'm going for an-hour walk right now. I need to move it.
DAY 1 (182 pounds)
BREAKFAST
Apples, 2 Psyllium
LUNCH
Sunflower seeds Coffee
DINNER
Brocoli, carrot, cowliflower Salmon, 1 can Brown rice, 1 cup Sunflower seeds ====================
DAY 2 (182)
Strawberries, 6 Apples, 2
Figues (700 calories) Walnuts, 1/4 cup Coffee
Homemade veggie mix (One tomatoe, red pepper, one carott, romaine lettuce) Cowliflower Sweet potatoe Almonds, 10 Brown rice, 1 cup
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DAY 3 (182)
Pears, 2 Banana Avocados, 2
Psyllium Prunes, 15
Salmon, 1 can Romaine lettuce Sunflower seeds
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DAY 4 (182)
Strawberries, 5 Figues (800 calories) Banana, 1 Pear, 1
Avocado, 1 Coffee Tuna, 1 can Parboil rice, 1 cup Sunflower seeds Peas in can, 1
Mineral water Tomatoe, 2 Parboil rice, 1 cup Sweet potato
James G - 15 Apr 2008 04:34 GMT On Apr 14, 10:09 pm, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Nobody can say I'm not trying! Here is what I ate in the last few > days. Am I eating healthy? Not much physical activity, and not much [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > Parboil rice, 1 cup > Sweet potato Give it time, and really up the fluid levels. Try to drink at least 2 quarts (liters) of non-caloric fluid every day, especially to help the system move those nasty unmentionables along the path and out your body.
Personally, I found my weight didn't start moving much until about 3 days after drastically cutting my calorie intake. After that, it started falling off.
Are you coming from a trend of weight gain, or stability? If you're coming from a gain, you might be cutting calories just enough to balance. Even if you're coming from stability, the calorie deficit you're at could still be small enough to be unnoticeable on your particular scale (I notice you gave your weight to the pound). Remember, the weight in food, water, and air you're moving through your body every single day is a whole order of magnitude (or two!) larger than the weight difference each day. This creates a lot of signal noise.
Rest assured, if you're eating less calories than your body burns, you WILL lose weight. Just try to stick to your numbers (don't obsess over calories, but at least pick a number and try to hit it to within 100 calories each day).
Oh, and if you're having a little problem on the toilet, you might consider adding a fiber supplement. A diet can be a particularly stressful event for your GI tract, and a little extra fiber can't hurt you. It's not a big pain to add a little to a glass of water in the morning and pound it down. Trust me, the prospects of developing diverticulitis and having to deal with it (personally, my brother is actually afflicted by this, and blames Atkin's. Not sure if that's an accurate cause, but it IS disconcerting) is NOT worth the convenience of avoiding a little task in the morning.
STICK IN THERE! :)
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 15 Apr 2008 06:08 GMT Thanks for everyone's help. REALLY appreciated. The weight has been fluctuating between 180 and 184 in the last 11 days.
I started keeping tracker of my weight and all the food I eat since September 28, 2007. I started at a time when I was eating a lot of bread, pizza, cookies, sandwiches and the like. I started at 191 pounds and quickly reached 182 pounds. I lost 9 pounds in 12 days. It has been a roller coaster since then. The weight has been fluctuating from 174 to 185. At one point I went from 182 to 174 pounds (8 pounds) in 9 days. I'll post a link to the chart tomorrow to give you a better idea of the fluctuation.
Now I'm looking at the chart I made two or three years ago. Boy, I reached 168 and kept the weight between 170 and 173 for several weeks. I thought I had made it, but I lost my way ever after that. I'm realizing now that I was eating really differently back then. I was starting my day with 500 ml of prune juice and had walnuts, brown rice, vitamine C as supplement, and whole almonds. I may have to come back to that.
Doug Freyburger - 15 Apr 2008 20:27 GMT "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for everyone's help. REALLY appreciated. The weight has been > fluctuating between 180 and 184 in the last 11 days. A bit of advice from Dr Atkins that really applies to all dieters -
A stall is 4+ weeks without a new low, without a lost inch, without a cheat.
It says that size matters and that's easy to miss when staring at the scale reading. But water, fat and crap all respond to gravity. Water and crap once lost can no longer get lower but they can get higher again. That makes the scale reading noisey.
The time scale is not arbitrary. Like it or not, because of factors like the scale bounce you have been seeing the time scale for fat loss is month to month not day to day or week to week. There has probably not been a single dieter in history happy with this fact, but disliking a fact does not magically convert it to fiction.
Eleven days is TOO SHORT a time to conclude that anything is wrong with your loss rate, though it is plenty long to not have bowel move. But you mentioned "not much stool" and there is nothing wrong with being empty as long as you aren't plugged.
> I started at 191 > pounds and quickly reached 182 pounds. I lost 9 pounds in 12 days. Initial water loss. Not to be confused with fat loss.
> It has been a roller coaster since then. In other words you don't understand the concept of signal noise in an instrument reading. Check. There are articles about "Why the Scale Lies" that you should read. If you weigh daily it is extremely important you average over at least a week to have any sort of number with meaning.
> The weight has been fluctuating > from 174 to 185. At one point I went from 182 to 174 pounds (8 pounds) > in 9 days. I'll post a link to the chart tomorrow to give you a better > idea of the fluctuation. BTDTgtTS. My water retention bounce is also 6+ pounds. If my readings are within 6 pounds of each other, that means I have neither gained nor lost fat or lean. And I'm not here to lose water.
> Now I'm looking at the chart I made two or three years ago. Boy, I > reached 168 and kept the weight between 170 and 173 for several weeks. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > rice, vitamine C as supplement, and whole almonds. I may have to come > back to that. If that worked without hunger then you should do that.
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 15 Apr 2008 20:50 GMT "But you mentioned "not much stool" and there is nothing wrong with being empty as long as you aren't plugged. "
How can I know which one I am?
Doug Freyburger - 16 Apr 2008 15:49 GMT "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > But you mentioned "not much stool" and there is > > nothing wrong with being empty as long as you aren't plugged. > > How can I know which one I am? Folks with a prior history of being plugged tend to know based on that experience. You can feel it building up but it won't come out. And when it does it's like passing a brick. Folks with no prior experience of being plugged tend to think that constipation is not going in longer than you're used to.
Dieting can easily lead to having less roughage and so less volume. Being empty isn't a problem; it's just different from what you're used to.
Going but having a lot less volume than usual means you aren't plugged. How's it getting out if it isn't plugged? This seems a weak argument but it's enough to convince me. I'm sure someone will have experienced being partially plugged so it builds up faster than it's coming out but it just doesn't seem likely to me. Going but less volume to me says not plugged.
If you want to know for certain you could conduct an experiment, but I don't think there's any need at this point. As long as you haven't taken any harsh medical laxative recently (a month or two) go for dosing yourself with ExLax and see how much comes out. If very little does then you were empty and there was no issue. If a lot comes out then you were plugged and there's no longer an issue. Not a great experiment to conduct more often than annually as I don't think it's a good idea to take a laxative unless you think you're plugged.
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 16 Apr 2008 16:09 GMT > "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > often than annually as I don't think it's a good idea to > take a laxative unless you think you're plugged. According to what you're saying, I'm not plugged. I'm still going, usually once a day, and the stool is not hard. I might try the Exlax test. I'll tell you what "came out" of it.
James G - 17 Apr 2008 06:20 GMT On Apr 16, 11:09 am, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > usually once a day, and the stool is not hard. I might try the Exlax > test. I'll tell you what "came out" of it. I'd suggest trying more fluids and more fiber before turning to a laxative. A lot of the time it's just a problem of balance, rather than something that need be solved with "help."
But either way, happy stooling!
Doug Freyburger - 17 Apr 2008 23:25 GMT "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm still going, usually once a day, and the stool is not hard. Therefore build up of crap is not your issue with loss. Move on to the next issue.
> I might try the Exlax > test. I'll tell you what "came out" of it. Waste of time and effort at this point.
James G - 15 Apr 2008 04:38 GMT Oh, and you might want to crunch the numbers on all the fruit you're eating. Fruit, despite being considered quite healthy (and quite tasty!) packs a good number of calories, because it's sugary.
Del Cecchi - 15 Apr 2008 04:38 GMT > Nobody can say I'm not trying! Here is what I ate in the last few > days. Am I eating healthy? Not much physical activity, and not much > stool in the last few days either. I'm going for an-hour walk right > now. I need to move it. > > DAY 1 (182 pounds) (snip)
If you aren't doing much physical, then you probably only burn like 2000 calories more or less. So it is hard to have enough deficit to cause rapid loss. Have you been losing up until now? Or are you just starting out. If you have been losing for awhile, staying at the same weight for several days or even longer is not uncommon.
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dkw12002@yahoo.com - 15 Apr 2008 12:15 GMT On Apr 14, 7:09 pm, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Nobody can say I'm not trying! Here is what I ate in the last few > days. Am I eating healthy? Not much physical activity, and not much [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > Parboil rice, 1 cup > Sweet potato It does look like this should allow you to lose wt. Nuts are very high fat and calories though. A cup of walnuts is about 800 calories, 700 of which is fat. Sunflower seeds are also very high fat. I personally never eat nuts and Dr. Ornish in his low-fat diet does not recommend them either. Avocados are also high fat, and you could pick a different fruit. I always look for the fat if someone isn't losing wt, cause that's where the concentrated calories are. You got plenty of protein and fat without them with the salmon, tuna, brown rice, etc. If you were to substitute a high fiber, low-cal food like green beans, you could eat a lot more by weight. A quarter cup of walnuts is equivalent in calories to about 3 cans of green beans. You wouldn't need to take the fiber either. Still, your diet looks reasonable to me and I can't understand why you wouldn't be losing wt. with this. I eat much more in terms of weight of food and calories, but not fat of course and I weigh 138. Maybe it will just take more time. dkw
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 15 Apr 2008 15:36 GMT I'll keep the "fat factor" in mind. I did buy fresh green beans yesterday. I will steam them this morning. This morning I weight 181. :) Hopefully it's the begining...
Del Cecchi - 16 Apr 2008 00:50 GMT > I'll keep the "fat factor" in mind. I did buy fresh green beans > yesterday. I will steam them this morning. This morning I weight > 181. :) Hopefully it's the begining... read up on the "hacker's diet". It has a lot of good information.
James G - 16 Apr 2008 01:08 GMT On Apr 15, 7:50 pm, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > read up on the "hacker's diet". It has a lot of good information. In fact, here's the direct link. It explains the problem with signal noise very well, and even has a lot of utilities online to assist your dieting. I personally use and love it.
http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 17 Apr 2008 15:26 GMT On 15 avr, 11:36, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'll keep the "fat factor" in mind. I did buy fresh green beans > yesterday. I will steam them this morning. This morning I weight > 181. :) Hopefully it's the begining... 181 was two days ago. Yesterday I weight 180, and today I weight 178... I increased the water intake.
sueb - 18 Apr 2008 00:33 GMT On Apr 17, 7:26 am, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 15 avr, 11:36, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 181 was two days ago. Yesterday I weight 180, and today I weight > 178... I increased the water intake. You seem to be eating a lot of stuff out of cans. Canned goods are usually high in salt and that will keep you retaining water, and thus weight. Try to eat the real thing instead of canned and see if that helps. Fresh salmon and tuna taste much better than canned anyway!
Susan B.
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 18 Apr 2008 03:05 GMT > On Apr 17, 7:26 am, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Susan B. Yeah, I guess it's a good idea. I used to buy frozen salmon, cut it in five pieces, and cook one. It was really delicious. Thanks for reminding me!
James G - 18 Apr 2008 05:56 GMT On Apr 17, 10:05 pm, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 17, 7:26 am, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > five pieces, and cook one. It was really delicious. Thanks for > reminding me! Chicken is a really easy meal on the go, too. Just buy several breasts at the store, cook them all (I like to use a little lemon juice and paprika. chili powder is probably good too), and refrigerate them. Then, it's a cinch to just pull a breast out, nuke it, and chow down.
Nothing beats a good fillet of salmon, though. Especially when cooked in tin foil with the skin. Mmmm, yummy! =)
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