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Benefits of a low-fat diet.
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dkw12002@yahoo.com - 17 Apr 2008 00:41 GMT As I have said before, one huge advantage of a low-fat diet is that you get to eat more food....more food by weight, not by calories. Make that food also high fiber and you get even more food. For example, here is what I ate today:
1/2 cup Fiber One cereal plus 1 cup of puffed wheat with slightly under 1/2 cup of Lactaid fat- free milk....150 calories, 1 g fat, 8 g. protein, 60% of daily fiber requirement.
A double portion of steel cut oats- that's 1/2 cup. If you used rolled oats, it would be one cup (dry)...300 cal, 6g. fat, 10g. protein, 30% fiber.
Subway Veggie delight... 250 cal, 3g. fat, 6g. protein, 10% fiber.
apple, 50 cal... no fat, 1g. protein, 5% fiber.
3/4 cup lentils....250 cal, 0 fat, 30g. protein, 180% fiber.
4 toast made with Nature's Own Light bread with Promise Non-fat...175 cal, 2g. fat, 4 g. protein, 25% fiber.
another double portion of oats with a cup of blueberries...375 cal, 6 g. fat, 11 g. protein, 50% fiber.
3 cups of puffed whole wheat cereal with Splenda, plus 1/2 cup Lactaid nonfat milk...225 cal, 2 g. fat, 10 g. protein, 12% fiber.
4 more toast same as before.
tossed salad no dressing...75 cal. no fat, 1 g. protein, 10% fiber.
Totals: 2025 cal, 22 g. fat (10.8% of diet came from fat), 85 g. protein, 407% daily requirement of fiber.
Perhaps this can give some dieters some good ideas about how to eat more food for the calories. dkw
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 17 Apr 2008 03:12 GMT That's great. What was your highest weight ever and how much do you weight now?
Jo Anne - 17 Apr 2008 04:37 GMT >As I have said before, one huge advantage of a low-fat diet is that >you get to eat more food....more food by weight, not by calories. Make [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >Perhaps this can give some dieters some good ideas about how to eat >more food for the calories. dkw A diet consisting entirely of whole grain cereal and canned grean beans with phony margarine would certainly help me to lose weight.
Because I wouldn't be able to stomach eating that crap longer than a day.
I prefer a more balanced approach to eating.
Jo Anne
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 17 Apr 2008 16:30 GMT > On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT), "dkw12...@yahoo.com" > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Since when is whole grain crap? The mock margarine, Splenda, diet pop, I eat might quality, but definitely not whole grains. In fact, whole grains are strongly implicated in longevity and health. dkw
Jo Anne - 18 Apr 2008 00:48 GMT >> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT), "dkw12...@yahoo.com" >> [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >I eat might quality, but definitely not whole grains. In fact, whole >grains are strongly implicated in longevity and health. dkw It's crap because you eat the same thing. Every. Single. Day. I could not deal with that. It looks like you ate 5 1/2 - 6 servings of cereal there. I'd be gagging on that by lunchtime.
Jo Anne
Melissa - 18 Apr 2008 01:16 GMT >>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:41:11 -0700 (PDT), "dkw12...@yahoo.com" >>> [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > Jo Anne Geez, I need some chicken & fish and sometimes some red meat. I can't imagine living on cereal. Bleah. No way is that a balanced diet, not to mention how BORING it is. Where's the veggies? I'd be a slug on so many carbs and couldn't even begin to exercise or lift weights.
Melissa
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 18 Apr 2008 02:47 GMT > > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:30:19 -0700 (PDT), "dkw12...@yahoo.com" > > <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > > - Show quoted text - To each his or her own. I don't like meat. Veggies? 75 calorie is a huge tossed salad (without dressing). A McDonalds side salad is considered one serving and it has 15-20 cal. to put it into perspective. Mine had spinach, broccoli, carrots, tomatoes, onions- roughly 5 servings I'd guess. The Subway veggie is just that...a salad sandwich with perhaps 2 servings of vegetables. Believe it or not, lentils can be counted as 2 servings of vegetables as well according to Uncle Sam. Blueberries are a fruit, but I just lump fruit and veggies together since tomatoes are really a fruit and so are a lot of other foods that people call vegetables. I am in great shape, work out 6X a week, have endless energy, and love what I eat. You are just wrong. My diet is very balanced. You need to learn a little about vegetarianism before you start ragging. dkw
Doug Freyburger - 18 Apr 2008 16:18 GMT "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Since when is whole grain crap? Since archeologists started being able to tell the transition from hunter-gatherer society to farming society by the amount of bone illness in skeletons found.
> In fact, whole > grains are strongly implicated in longevity and health. Unfortunately those studies compare refined grains against whole grains so there's the chicken-and-egg problem of a hidden assumption. Show me a study that compares cruciferous vegitables with whole grain and I'll start to think differently.
And that does suggest something about a low fat strategy:
The more veggies that are used in place of grains the better. Asparagus through zucchini they are all better than corn or oats. Fruit, too. Apples through (some fruit that starts with a z) they are all better than wheat or rice.
Even taking into account the studies that say whole grains aren't a problem, a plate of brown rice with a spoon of rutabagas or a plate of rutabagas with a spoon of brown rice, which is better should not be difficult to figure out.
While there's no point in anyone doing a low fat diet trying to go grain free, grains do displace veggies and fruits for the same total calories.
Your diet works for you so you should stick to it. Low fat is obvious and easy to figure out so folks wanting to diet it's a natural starting point. Low fat works for a percentage of people and anyone it works for should stick to it.
But as plenty of folks point out different folks need to do different stuff.
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 17 Apr 2008 05:14 GMT > As I have said before, one huge advantage of a low-fat diet is that > you get to eat more food....more food by weight, not by calories. Make [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Perhaps this can give some dieters some good ideas about how to eat > more food for the calories. dkw For how long have you been eating like this? Have had a complete medical evaluation -blood pressure, colesterol, heart,...) lately? Do you sometimes lack energy?
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 17 Apr 2008 16:28 GMT On Apr 16, 9:14 pm, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com" <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > As I have said before, one huge advantage of a low-fat diet is that > > you get to eat more food....more food by weight, not by calories. Make [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I've been vegetarian and low-fat for over 4 years. My diet has changed slightly, but not much over that period of time. It's one of the main reasons I was able to lose 95 pounds and keep it off. It isn't for everyone, vegetarian and high-fiber and very high carb, but it works out very well for me. It is almost completely opposite the low-carb approach. My diet would fit Dean Ornish's low-fat recommendations. dkw
Mary_Gordon@tvo.org - 18 Apr 2008 02:12 GMT I guess it works for you, but as a person who lost and who has kept off 65 lb, I know very few people could follow your diet.
Its the diet of a person who lives alone and eats alone, essentially, because its so very narrow in range and so rigidly repetitive.
It just doesn't allow for much variety, for the pure pleasure of a range of interesting foods and alternatives within the same caloric range, for accomodating other people and family and a social life in any way. Maybe that's not fair, but I'm married, mom of three kids all still at home, and I'm manager in a projects group of a large utility. I'm cooking for a family, I'm out and about, I'm on the road. I could no more be eating cereal all day long than fly to the moon - nor would I want to.
I do eat very low fat, and I am a bulk eater. What meat I do eat is very lean, and what grains I eat are whole grains. However, I have a much wider range of things I eat and ways they are prepared than you do - and I am cooking for and eating with other people and taking pleasure in the shared experience. Its not just about fueling the body alone for most of us.
M
dkw12002@yahoo.com - 18 Apr 2008 03:22 GMT On Apr 17, 6:12 pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote:
> I guess it works for you, but as a person who lost and who has kept > off 65 lb, I know very few people could follow your diet. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > M Right. To begin with, there aren't other vegetarians that post here so right off, there wouldn't be much agreement. My point was not to convert anyone or say my diet is better, but to show that you can eat more food on a low-fat diet. Not all vegetarians eat low-fat of course. Someone struggling with their diet might just get an idea from my list and say, hey, I could eat that and look how much food I'd get to eat for so few calories...wishful thinking I guess, but it sure works and worked for me. This group seems to be all the same stuck-in- their-ways folks with nobody new, so there isn't much use presenting ideas anyway. Think I'll find another forum. Obviously there are lots of ways to lose wt. and keep it off. Food preference is learned, so someone could change their eating if they wanted to for any reason and even learn to like foods they currently do not like. I chose my diet in large part because it is healthy. I had to learn to like some foods...like tomatoes which I now love. I have never liked meat so I never feel like I'm missing something. I do see amonst meat eaters a perception, false but prevalent, that it takes red meat or any meat to have energy and be healthy. I also don't eat the same thing everyday, but I do eat a lot of the same things, especially the oats, but then I love oats. dkw
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 18 Apr 2008 04:05 GMT About repetiveness... I would eat only salad if I could get rid of my belly and still be healthy and full of energy. I know it's impossible, but it's just to show you where my priorities are.
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