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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / June 2008Grapefruit diet question.
I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there is a strict list of food menus you have to eat. My finances are streched right now,so is there anyway I can cheat and do the diet,but without following the foods listed? I mean, maybe I can just eliminate all carbs and only eat fats and protein, but without following the exact requirements listed in the diet,like having 2 strips of bacon for breakfast etc etc? Anyone tried the grapefruit juice diet,did it do any good? Thanks and bye. >I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a > glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Anyone tried the grapefruit juice diet,did it do any good? > Thanks and bye. It is like totally bogus. Been around for many years. Google for reviews. On Jun 15, 11:14 am, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com> wrote: > >I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a > > glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > It is like totally bogus. Been around for many years. Google for > reviews. Right. Grapefruit is good food, but there's nothing sacred or even important about eating it. Lots of people seem to subscribe to the fat- burning idea where one food or nutrient is supposed to be a magic bullet or a cure-all. dkw On 16 Jun, 16:17, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 15, 11:14 am, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > - Show quoted text - so the person who wrote on the web that by having a glass of grapefruit juice before each meal caused him to lost many pounds was lying or just confused? What I mean is,has anyone here tried drinking one glass of grapefruit before each meal,for say 2 weeks, and noticed any weight loss? Thanks friends. > so the person who wrote on the web that by having a glass of > grapefruit juice before each meal caused him to lost many pounds was > lying or just confused? > What I mean is,has anyone here tried drinking one glass of grapefruit > before each meal,for say 2 weeks, and noticed any weight loss? Being able to lose some in a short time doesn't really matter. There are so many different ways to lose. What matters is being able to keep it off for years on end. And so any diet that lacks a maintenance mode is a fad diet. Since ASD is a support group with folks who've been around for years, you'll find support for plans that work long term. It's a bad idea to support folks who want to go on crzay fad diets because it points them in the wrong direction. Gain it back and the effort will have been wasted so better to pick a plan that doesn't come with a guarantee that it will all be regained. The problem with all fad diets lacking a maintenance phase is they don't mention that the come with such a guarantee but they really do. Diets without a maintenance phase, diets that have strict menus for anything other than a brief starting phase, diets without long term results. Fad diets all. > > so the person who wrote on the web that by having a glass of > > grapefruit juice before each meal caused him to lost many pounds was [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > strict menus for anything other than a brief starting > phase, diets without long term results. Fad diets all. Well Doug, I'm not looking for a long term diet,but need to lose about 10 pounds quick for work-reasons (long story). > > Diets without a maintenance phase, diets that have > > strict menus for anything other than a brief starting > > phase, diets without long term results. Fad diets all. > > Well Doug, I'm not looking for a long term diet,but need to lose about > 10 pounds quick for work-reasons (long story). If you want to do something unhealthy and short term you might want to ask around in a group frequented by wrestlers. Then come back later to discuss the long term so you won't need a crash effort next year. But short term losing isn't all that hard. Plenty of ways. > > > so the person who wrote on the web that by having a glass of > > > grapefruit juice before each meal caused him to lost many pounds was [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - 10 pounds equates to 35,000 calories, so you just need to eat 35,000 calories less over whatever timeframe you choose to lose the weight. Just count calories and know what number of calories you are presently eating to maintain your overweight condition. If you are still gaining weight, then counting the calories you are eating doesn't work. It is still easy to figure if you know how much you are gaining over a certain time period, say a month. A couple of pounds a week loss is recommended unless you are very overweight, then you could lose more. Each pound of body fat is lost with 3500 fewer calories. The grapefruit juice has about 100 calories per cup. That's not much, so if you think it might help, it would be better than pop, but not as good as water or diet pop for losing weight. There's nothing magical about grapefruit juice. Lots of dieters never drink their calories and feel it is best to eat the grapefruit than drink the juice. It takes longer and is more satisfying. Because of the high sugar content, many nutritionists do not recommend fruit juices. dkw On Jun 16, 2:19 pm, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On 16 Jun, 21:46, Doug Freyburger <dfrey...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - 10 pounds equates to 35,000 calories, so you just need to eat 35,000 calories less over whatever timeframe you choose to lose the weight. Just count calories and know what number of calories you are presently eating to maintain your overweight condition. If you are still gaining weight, then counting the calories you are eating doesn't work. It is still easy to figure if you know how much you are gaining over a certain time period, say a month. A couple of pounds a week loss is recommended unless you are very overweight, then you could lose more. Each pound of body fat is lost with 3500 fewer calories. The grapefruit juice has about 100 calories per cup. That's not much, so if you think it might help, it would be better than pop, but not as good as water or diet pop for losing weight. There's nothing magical about grapefruit juice. Lots of dieters never drink their calories and feel it is best to eat the grapefruit than drink the juice. It takes longer and is more satisfying. Because of the high sugar content, many nutritionists do not recommend fruit juices. dkw And it shouldn't be taken with many medications. Drink a glass of water before you eat to make you feel more full. Then work on keeping your portions under control and watch those "empty calories". Melissa > <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Right Melissa, grapefruit juice interfers with several meds like Viagra and certain heart meds...so they say. dkw On 16 Jun, 16:17, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 15, 11:14 am, "Del Cecchi" <delcecchioftheno...@gmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - so the person who wrote on the web that by having a glass of grapefruit juice before each meal caused him to lost many pounds was lying or just confused? What I mean is,has anyone here tried drinking one glass of grapefruit before each meal,for say 2 weeks, and noticed any weight loss? Thanks friends. they were lying. > I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a > glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Anyone tried the grapefruit juice diet,did it do any good? > Thanks and bye. Fruits are strange to a diet. They're sugary, and contain calories. However, fruits are juicy, so a lot of their content is watery, giving you a lot of volume-per-calorie. Psychological hunger and dietary regulation are driven by volume often, so fruit can be a good way to give yourself a little sweet treat without busting your budget. As dkw pointed out, there is no one-food diet. No one supplementary food will make a huge difference. In the end, it's all about becoming more aware of what you're eating, deciding how much you can do without, and accepting the short-term discomfort for the long-term gain. I personally like cantaloupe, strawberries, and an occasional watermelon. They're all juicy, sweet, and won't ruin a calorie budget if you consciously keep track of how much you eat. But fruits aren't a good thing to base a diet around. I personally like to make the majority of my meals as green and leafy as possible. Broccoli is my newest craze; I steam it with pretty much every meal until it's just soft enough, with a little crunch left over. Some salt (don't be afraid of salt! No calories, seasoning value, and manageable water offsets), and it makes a great meal. I think the best advice regarding diet is not to follow ANYBODY's rules verbatim. Do your research, find out what works for others, try to plan what works for you, and experiment. Watch the results (have PATIENCE here), and decide the next course of action. Good luck! > > I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a > > glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Good luck! That broccoli sounds good. I also eat a little watermelon and canteloupe. As I recall, somebodies list of superfoods included watermelon. I don't know if broccoli was on there but it seems pretty super. My favorite fruit is blueberries. They are loaded with fiber and vitamins and are low calorie at 70 cal a cup. I buy frozen ones. They are always perfect plump and sweet...no mold or too ripe or too green like the "fresh" ones. Frozen is almost always cheaper as well. I drop some in my hot oatmeal. They defrost in the hot oats and the hot oats cool off a bit so you can eat them right away. Several years ago on a major news station, there was this news teaser from some group...nutritionist or other experts, I guess, but really don't recall...anyway, they were going to disclose the best single food. I listened and watched for about a hour, and finally what they came up with is mushrooms. I have seen them mentioned since, especially the shitake, as being especially good, but alas, there is no such thing as the "best single food", like you say. dkw On Jun 17, 11:04 am, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I read about something called the Grapefruit diet,where you drink a > > > glass of grapefruit juice before each meal. However in the diet there [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > especially the shitake, as being especially good, but alas, there is > no such thing as the "best single food", like you say. dkw After reading John Walker's diet eBook and deciding to get it started already, I took his advice and kept a jar of pickles on hand for a null-value snack. His reasoning for 6 (!!!) calories per spear is that pickles are basically crunchy water. On a curious whim, I looked up the facts on broccoli. According to the USDA National Nutrient Database ( http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ ), 100g of raw broccoli contains 89.30 +/- 1.04g of water. 90% water by weight! Wow, I never really would have guessed that one! Also, 6.64g carb, 2.82g protein, and 2.6g dietary fiber. And only 34 kcal! Water is non-caloric, and dietary fiber can't be broken down. That gives almost 92% non-calorie content by weight. So you can eat a big old helping of broccoli and just a little of your "main" course and come away without hunger or guilt. But now that I think about it, a lot of other foods seem like they'd have a high water content. According to the same database, CANNED green beans are also close to 90% water by weight, at only 35 kcal for 100g. Adding even two vegetables to your meal makes it easy to take up more than half of your meal with low-cal food, but avoid the boredom of one- side eating. Mom and Dad had it right all along, eat those veggies! > On Jun 17, 11:04 am, "dkw12...@yahoo.com" <dkw12...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Right. I look for high water, high fiber and low fat. Beans and lentils turn out to be very filling and they are both very high fiber, very low fat, and high water (once they're cooked). Of course they are also low calorie. Green beans are especially good because they are so low calorie....and loaded with protein. A baked potato is pretty filling too and low calorie until stuff gets added to it. I also keep pickles around. I rinse off as much salt as I can if I plan to eat 5 or 6 dills. Mine say they are 10 cal. per large dill pickle. About the only thing lower in calories than cucumbers is lettuce and celery, which I also eat a lot of. Part of the secret to my weight loss and maintenance was figuring out how to eat a lot of food, which I do. dkw |
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