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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / October 2008CNN: Pleas for help come too late as half-ton man dies in Mexico
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/10/07/mexico.halfton.man.ap/index.html Story Highlights * Jose Luis Garza went on Mexican television asking for help * At funeral, family members criticize officials for not moving Garza to a hospital * Official: "Moving a patient of that magnitude is very difficult." * Heart failure is the cause of death, family says JUAREZ, Mexico (AP) -- A 990-pound (450-kilogram), bedridden man who had appealed on Mexican television for help tackling his weight problem died Tuesday of heart failure, his family said. Emergency officials had to knock down Jose Luis Garza's bedroom wall and load him onto the back of a friend's pickup as he fought for his life. The 47-year-old was pronounced dead on arrival at a hospital in northern Mexico. Garza followed in the footsteps of the world's fattest man, fellow Mexican Manuel Uribe of Monterrey, by taking his weight problem public. Garza lived about an hour away from Uribe in the town of Juarez. Garza said he always struggled with his obesity, but that he fell into a desperate cycle of depression and overeating nine months ago after his parents died of natural causes within two weeks of each other. He had been bedridden for four months. Garza's condition deteriorated over the weekend as he struggled to breathe and eat. At his funeral, family members slammed state officials for not moving Garza to a hospital in Mexico before he became critically ill. "If he had received support at the time he asked for it, he would still be with us," said his brother Pedro Garza. State officials argued there was little they could do. "The attention he would have received at a hospital would have been the same he got at home," said Julio Cesar Cano, spokesman for the Nuevo Leon state health department. "Moving a patient of that magnitude is very difficult. A normal ambulance won't work." Uribe, whose record weight of 1,230 pounds (560 kilos) earned him a place in the 2008 Guinness Book of Records, has claimed to have lost around 550 pounds (250 kilos) by following the Zone Diet invented by Dr. Barry Sears. Uribe tried to help Garza by sending him kiwis, grapefruit, pears and a protein supplement. Uribe's fiancee, Claudia Solis, delivered the food on Friday evening. It's very sad when someone lives and ends up dying in this manner. My prayers go out to him and his family. > It's very sad when someone lives and ends up dying in this manner. My > prayers go out to him and his family. Your prayers to the pagan gods are too late and no more effective than pissing in the wind.  SignaturePramesh Rutaji p297tongue6221@newsguy.com - remove tongue to reply Tacos do that to you everytime. > http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/10/07/mexico.halfton.man.ap/index.html > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > protein supplement. Uribe's fiancee, Claudia Solis, delivered the food on > Friday evening. All he had to do was eat less. And you have to eat a great deal to maintain a weight of 1000 pounds. > All he had to do was eat less. And you have to eat a great deal to maintain a > weight of 1000 pounds. And all drug addicts have to do is just say no. Boy I wish I lived in a world where the answers to life’s problems were soooo simple. Ragnar >> All he had to do was eat less. And you have to eat a great deal to >> maintain a weight of 1000 pounds. > > And all drug addicts have to do is just say no. Boy I wish I lived > in a world where the answers to life’s problems were soooo simple. I've managed to avoid becoming obese and avoid becoming a drug addict. Are you saying that it's difficult to avoid becoming a drug addict? SignatureBert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com > >> All he had to do was eat less. And you have to eat a great deal to > >> maintain a weight of 1000 pounds. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- > Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com No, I’m saying it’s very difficult for most people to stop once they are hooked. Obviously a 1000lb individual represents a case of severe food addiction and goes beyond just your average case of simple over indulgence. Ragnar >> rapierfen...@live.com (Ragnar) wrote >> innews:3b905d7f-d844-470f-aa96-5e740 [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > No, I’m saying it’s very difficult for most people to stop once they > are hooked. There's your answer: don't start. SignatureBert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com >>Are you saying that it's difficult to avoid becoming a drug addict? >>Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Ragnar Who's the moron(s)who was bringing him all the food? Marsha/Ohio >>> Are you saying that it's difficult to avoid becoming a drug addict? >>> Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Marsha/Ohio There are no morons in mexcremento; just mexcrements. Many of them are posting in soc.culture.mexican (mexcremento), pretending to be Spanish Dons. If you think I'm kidding, post any, and I mean ANY, article from a newspaper in Spain, and watch all the s.c.m. mexcrement dons try to outdo each other in absurdity. M de M > >>> Are you saying that it's difficult to avoid becoming a drug addict? > >>> Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - I'll check that out for sure! "Marsha" <mas@xeb.net> wrote in >> No, I’m saying it’s very difficult for most people to stop once they >> are hooked. Obviously a 1000lb individual represents a case of severe [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Who's the moron(s)who was bringing him all the food? I was just thinking that as that's lot of food each day! He couldn't walk and get it, or cook his own meals! He didn't work, so who was his enabler? > "Marsha" <m...@xeb.net> wrote in > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > He couldn't walk and get it, or cook his own meals! > He didn't work, so who was his enabler? It must have cost him a lot of money to eat. I guess he ate away his parent's life insurance's money! > "Marsha" <m...@xeb.net> wrote in > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > He couldn't walk and get it, or cook his own meals! > He didn't work, so who was his enabler? Somebody must be doing it for him, more than likely family members. That is why failure rates among the addicted are so high, especially when they are surrounded by those that enable the addiction. Ragnar >> "Marsha" <m...@xeb.net> wrote in >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > That is why failure rates among the addicted are so high, especially > when they are surrounded by those that enable the addiction. I can hear the phone conversation now - "I'd like to order 10 XXL 10 topping specials. ....."and one Large Diet!" One wonders what the daily caloric intake on such a person would be. SignatureSneakyP To reply: newsgroup only, what's posted in ng stays in ng. Some choose to swim in the potty bowl of nan-ae rather than flush it down :0) > And all drug addicts have to do is just say no. Exactly. Addicts who do not learn to do this are never able to kick their addictions. There isn't any other solution, whether the addiction is to heroin or food. Addicts who insist that some external force controls their behavior are doomed. > > And all drug addicts have to do is just say no. > > Exactly. Addicts who do not learn to do this are never able to kick their > addictions. There isn't any other solution, whether the addiction is to > heroin or food. Addicts who insist that some external force controls their > behavior are doomed. That’s correct but bare in mind, as you stated, people must LEARN to say no and for the addict, that is not a natural behavior. Addiction causes basic cognitive reasoning and common sense to dissipate into thin air and controllable behavior spirals into uncontrollability. It’s easy to say “just say no” but for many caught in the vicious circle of addiction it can seem like an insurmountable task. I’m in no way defending this kind of behavior or mindset but that is just the way it is. Ragnar > http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/10/07/mexico.halfton.man.ap/index.html > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > protein supplement. Uribe's fiancee, Claudia Solis, delivered the food on > Friday evening. see ya fatso hahahahahahahahahahaha |
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