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PB - 02 Jan 2009 05:03 GMT
It's not working.

Need to lose weight faster.
Is there some blood sugar or metabolism test that would help determine
the problem ?

All these flus (all winter almost), not enough energy to go to gym
everyday.

Too cold for very long walks, no mobility or money for skiing.

How to cut calories to 1000 a day ? Not there. More like 1500-2000
plus gym membership use.
DevilsPGD - 02 Jan 2009 06:02 GMT
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<0128bcfc-e141-4e64-9997-01a678b950ee@q37g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> PB
<pbca1965@aim.com> was claimed to have wrote:

>It's not working.

What's not?

>Need to lose weight faster.

2lbs/week sounds about right for healthy sustained loss.
James G - 02 Jan 2009 06:17 GMT
> How to cut calories to 1000 a day ? Not there. More like 1500-2000

Eat less, duh.

> plus gym membership use.

Don't even bother counting exercise when you consider calories.  It's
a complete waste of time.  You'll spend an hour on the treadmill to
burn off a measly 200 calories.

It's worth it to exercise, of course, but the nutritional advantage
alone isn't really worth considering.

1000 calories a day is absolutely doable.  For example, my selection
may look something like this:

Breakfast (~300 cal)
Plain bagel + lite cream cheese (just enough, don't slather it on)
Black coffee w/ artificial sweetener (this is practically zero-cal,
but the hot liquid makes me feel stuffed)

Lunch (~200 cal)
Greek salad (lettuce, tomato, onions, olives, feta cheese (just
enough!)) [NO DRESSING]

Dinner (~500 cal)
Grilled chicken breast and mixed veggies

I'd have to disagree that 2lbs/week is a "just right" rate for healthy
sustained loss.  This is a deficit of 1000 calories every day, which
is half of an "average" daily intake.  In my opinion, this is "severe"
diet territory.  To the point that you may want to consult a medical
professional regarding the effects.  It's healthy (to the extent that
controlled starvation ever is), but it's a steep loss rate.

You took years to put on the weight.  Stop rushing, pick a responsible
rate of loss (I find 500-800 calories/day to be a very comfortable
range that I can easily maintain without much thought; hitting 1000
requires a lot more presence of mind throughout the day) and stick to
it.  You can afford to extend your diet by a few months.  No, really,
you can.  No, I mean it.  Slow down.
DevilsPGD - 02 Jan 2009 10:32 GMT
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<f11989a8-2677-4b28-afb4-c37b16691da4@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> James
G <SnoopJeDi@gmail.com> was claimed to have wrote:

>I'd have to disagree that 2lbs/week is a "just right" rate for healthy
>sustained loss.

This was the number recommended by my doctor, and is backed up by each
and every one of the first 10 hits on a query for "safe weight loss per
week"

http://www.google.ca/search?q=safe+weight+loss+per+week

2lbs/week is the upper edge of safe on each listed site, but it's within
the limit.
Doug Freyburger - 02 Jan 2009 16:42 GMT
> >I'd have to disagree that 2lbs/week is a "just right" rate for healthy
> >sustained loss.

Because it's the practical maximum under common circumstances
it is lunacy to suggest that its the right rate.  You also suggest
that
every marathoner run like they are in a 100 meter sprint as well,
right?  After all the rate you run for a 100 meter sprint is the
practical maximum for running therefore it's the one and only speed
to run ever under any circumstances, right?  Wrong of course.

> This was the number recommended by my doctor,

Then it's time to drop him as a lunatic and get a doctor with some
sense.

> and is backed up by each
> and every one of the first 10 hits on a query for "safe weight loss per
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> 2lbs/week is the upper edge of safe on each listed site, but it's within
> the limit.

Saying that two pounds per week is safe if not the same thing as
saying two pounds per week is practical.  It's saying that if you
lost more than two in a week you lost something other than fat
and/or that you caused other damage in the process that's going
to be worse than being fat.

More to lose, faster to lose it.  Less to lose, slower to lose it.
Having over 100 pounds to lose it might be common to end up
losing over 2 per week and have it happen safely - Find a way
where calories don't apply and it happens.  Biochemistry works
like that.  Having 10 or less to lose your rate should be a pound
a month.

Having unrealistic expectations and wanting that which is
physically impossible seems like it is the single most common
reason folks drop off of plans.  It looks to me like it's an even
more common reason than unending gnawing hunger.

As long as PB no longer has 100+ to lose then expecting a
loss rate of 2 per week is expecting the physically impossible.
Not gonna happen several weeks in a row.  Can't happen
several weeks in a row.  Shooting for it is a guarantee is self
inflicting unrealistic frustration.
James G - 04 Jan 2009 06:09 GMT
> In message
> <f11989a8-2677-4b28-afb4-c37b16691...@k8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> James
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> 2lbs/week is the upper edge of safe on each listed site, but it's within
> the limit.

So we're in agreement that "upper edge of safe" and "just right" are
unequal qualifiers?

I'm not saying 2lbs/wk is right for everyone, and I'm not saying
everyone should avoid it.  It works great for me, but everybody's diet
is personalized, and you should experiment until you find what's right
for you.

lol @ medical advice from google
Willow Herself - 12 Jan 2009 16:56 GMT
I'm starving reading your menu..

I'm a woman, 5'5" at goal weight for 5+ years.

Will~

On Jan 2, 12:03 am, PB <pbca1...@aim.com> wrote:

> How to cut calories to 1000 a day ? Not there. More like 1500-2000

Eat less, duh.

> plus gym membership use.

Don't even bother counting exercise when you consider calories.  It's
a complete waste of time.  You'll spend an hour on the treadmill to
burn off a measly 200 calories.

It's worth it to exercise, of course, but the nutritional advantage
alone isn't really worth considering.

1000 calories a day is absolutely doable.  For example, my selection
may look something like this:

Breakfast (~300 cal)
Plain bagel + lite cream cheese (just enough, don't slather it on)
Black coffee w/ artificial sweetener (this is practically zero-cal,
but the hot liquid makes me feel stuffed)

Lunch (~200 cal)
Greek salad (lettuce, tomato, onions, olives, feta cheese (just
enough!)) [NO DRESSING]

Dinner (~500 cal)
Grilled chicken breast and mixed veggies

I'd have to disagree that 2lbs/week is a "just right" rate for healthy
sustained loss.  This is a deficit of 1000 calories every day, which
is half of an "average" daily intake.  In my opinion, this is "severe"
diet territory.  To the point that you may want to consult a medical
professional regarding the effects.  It's healthy (to the extent that
controlled starvation ever is), but it's a steep loss rate.

You took years to put on the weight.  Stop rushing, pick a responsible
rate of loss (I find 500-800 calories/day to be a very comfortable
range that I can easily maintain without much thought; hitting 1000
requires a lot more presence of mind throughout the day) and stick to
it.  You can afford to extend your diet by a few months.  No, really,
you can.  No, I mean it.  Slow down.
Jeri - 02 Jan 2009 13:42 GMT
> It's not working.
>
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> How to cut calories to 1000 a day ? Not there. More like 1500-2000
> plus gym membership use.

The amount you lose per week depends on how much you have to lose. It's MUCH
easier to lose 2 lbs/week if you have 100 lbs to lose and nearly impossible
(to do in a healthly way) if you have 20 to lose. As you get closer to your
goal your weight loss will slow down. That's normal.

Your exercise program should include weight training along with aerobic
exercise. Weight training helps to preserve muscle and you don't need to go
to the gym to do it.
http://www.stumptuous.com/cms/displaysection.php?sid=3

If you've been sick all winter you should see a doctor. If you had the flu
it shouldn't last more than two weeks. But there are a lot of complications
that can develop from having the flu such as bacterial pneumonia, ear
infections, and sinus infections.
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Jeri
"Change is inevitable, except from vending machines."

Lynn - 28 Jan 2009 23:02 GMT
> It's not working.
>
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> How to cut calories to 1000 a day ? Not there. More like 1500-2000
> plus gym membership use.

you don't need to worry about cutting calories, you need to stop
drinking regular sodas and switch to diet. also, walk across the
country and it'll do you little good. You need to do sit ups and push
ups and lift weights.
JonquilJan - 29 Jan 2009 21:05 GMT
2 lbs a week is a good goal.  I am disabled and can't walk much further than
the mailbox and can't taske exercise that involves weight bearing (on my
feet).  If you have any access to facility/area where you can swim - that is
good exercise.  Also a stationary bike - there are some that are just the
pedals sitting on the floor - you in a chair.

I can't take diet soda (bad side effects from the artificial additives) and
use seltzer with a bit of added juice for flavor.  Mainly because I like the
carbonation.

Due to other problems, I was under treatment at a Physical Therapy clinic
for quite awhile.  They showed me many exercises that don't involve
machinery or weight bearing.  Just getting the blood flow going and pushing
your limits will help with metabolism - just don't overdo the food after the
workouts.

If you have access and funds - Weight Watchers worked the best for me.  But
that was just me.

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying
Cenegenics Atlanta - 31 Jan 2009 15:58 GMT
PB;417114 Wrote:
> It's not working.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> How to cut calories to 1000 a day ? Not there. More like 1500-2000
> plus gym membership use.

It doesn't get much better than two pounds per week of true fat loss.
I would be happy with that.  The only way to loose fat faster would b
to use HCG and extreem calorie restriction

--
Cenegenics Atlanta
 
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