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STP - 21 Apr 2009 02:04 GMT http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/20/thin.global.warming/index.html?iref=ne wssearch
Thinner is better to curb global warming, study says
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* Transporting heavier people requires more fuel, generating more greenhouse gas * Study compared BMI distribution in UK in 1970s with predictions for 2010 * Governments should encourage active transportation, study author says
By Elizabeth Landau CNN (CNN) -- Here's yet another reason to stay in shape: Thinner people contribute less to global warming, according to a new study.
Researchers at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine published a study showing that, because of food production and transportation factors, a population of heavier people contributes more harmful gases to the planet than a population of thin people.
Given that it takes more energy to move heavier people, transportation of heavier people requires more fuel, which creates more greenhouse gas emissions, the authors write.
"The main message is staying thin. It's good for you, and it's good for the planet," said Phil Edwards, senior lecturer at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.
The study offers this novel approach to the global warming problem as U.S. lawmakers discuss the future of climate change legislation. This week, the the House Energy and Commerce Committee is scheduled to begin on a comprehensive energy and climate bill. On Friday, the Environmental Protection Agency announced that six greenhouse gases pose potential health hazards, an announcement that could prompt the regulation of the gases.
More than 1 billion adults worldwide are overweight, and about 300 million are obese, the study said. Generally, the body mass index, a measure of obesity, is increasing in most countries worldwide, from China to European countries to the United States.
BMI is going up because of the availability of food and motorized transportation, Edwards said. People are less active now than they were 30 years ago, and the prevalence of fast food has given people less healthy, more energy-dense options.
Using statistical models, the authors compared the distribution of BMI in the United Kingdom in the 1970s -- when 3.5 percent of the population was obese -- with a prediction for the country's BMI distribution in 2010, reflecting 40 percent obesity.
"In terms of environmental impact, the lean population has a much smaller carbon footprint," Edwards said.
The population with 40 percent obese people requires 19 percent more food energy for its total energy expenditure than the population with 3.5 percent obese people, the study showed.
This 19 percent increase in food consumption translates into an increase of 270 million metric tons of greenhouse gas emissions, the study said.
"The findings make sense and highlight an important global co-benefit of losing weight, along with the significant personal health benefits," said Patrick Kinney, associate professor at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health, who was not involved in the study.
In terms of obesity rate, the U.S. population is not far off from the overweight population model in this study. The country has 33.3 percent obese people, according to the Mayo Clinic.
The study suggests that governments have a responsibility to encourage people to be more physically active, Edwards said. Active transportation, such as cycling and walking, helps maintain a healthy weight but requires safe streets, he said.
"If the government wants to promote active transport, which would be good for the environment and for individual health, it needs to make the environment safe to do that," he said.
Although climate change has come into the forefront as a major world problem recently, this is not the first time scholars have thought about the connection between fossil fuel and body fat.
In 1978, a year the United States experienced an oil shock, a study in the American Journal of Public Health showed that if all overweight people in the country aged 18 to 79 reached their optimal weight, the resulting energy savings would equal 1.3 billion gallons of gasoline.
After the dieting period, about 750 million gallons of gasoline would be saved every year, said the authors, Bruce Hannon, professor at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, and Timothy Lohman, now professor emeritus at the University of Arizona.
Today, research has shown that the obesity epidemic costs the United States about $100 billion a year, said Dr. Martin Donohoe of Portland State University, who runs the Web site Public Health and Social Justice. In terms of energy expenditure, the average food product travels 1,500 miles to get to your table, he said.
Some measures to curb obesity include making healthier meals available in schools, putting nutritional information on food packages and menus, and banning trans fats, he said.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 21 Apr 2009 03:17 GMT > http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/20/thin.global.warming/index.html?iref=ne > wssearch [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > * Study compared BMI distribution in UK in 1970s with predictions for 2010 > * Governments should encourage active transportation, study author says What's Global Warming?
Oh...that thing Al Gore made up!
This is one for the thinkers: The Antarctic is losing big amounts of ice through calving, but the ice is being more than replaced by cooling elsewhere. It’s basic thermodynamics of ice, really. The surprise is that nobody’s making a big deal about it.
It seems that ice IS decreasing at the Antarctic ice cap. On the western end.
What no one is saying is, the eastern end has more than DOUBLED the amount of ice lost on the western end.
How does that work?
Alan - 21 Apr 2009 14:20 GMT >> http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/20/thin.global.warming/index.html?iref=ne >> wssearch [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > elsewhere. It’s basic thermodynamics of ice, really. The surprise is > that nobody’s making a big deal about it. Cows and calves in the Antarctic? Ok, I looked up 'calving' and besides the cow part, you're correct (http://dictionary.reference.com/), but it doesn't explain how the 'ice thingy' derived from 'calfian' before 1000 AD.
> It seems that ice IS decreasing at the Antarctic ice cap. > On the western end. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > How does that work? Nature's equilibrium? Entropy and all that..
Isn't the Earth still receding from the last Ice Age caused by the warming of the Sun. Imo, that's a more likely scenario for so-called 'global warming' than a man-made one.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 22 Apr 2009 03:34 GMT >>> http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/20/thin.global.warming/index.html?iref=ne >>> wssearch [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > warming' > than a man-made one. Over in a.a.toyotas, we have interesting discussions. I wanted to be a geologist, but didn't have the math skills, so I took all the geology classes I could. It is a definite cycle, and even the IPCC posted this chart before they removed it:
http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/_res/CO2-01.jpg
You can see it's a regularly occurring cycle, and we're (historically) nearing the end of the warming cycle. Very near to the end. To think that man could upset a cycle like this is absurd. Hope you have Long Johns!!!
Interesting. According to this particular chart, the decline has already begun.
Don Klipstein - 22 Apr 2009 04:32 GMT >>>> http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/20/thin.global.warming/index.html? >>>> iref=newssearch [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >Interesting. According to this particular chart, the decline has already >begun. You cited a chart showing how in the past few hundred thousand years CO2 has varied from about 185 to about 290 PPMV in response to the Milankovitch Cycles, as one of the positive feedback mechanisms thereto. Throughout that stretch, carbon content in the sum of the biosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere has been fairly constant.
Meanwhile, since the Industrial Revolution we have achieved 387 PPMV CO2 and going up by transferring carbon from the lithosphere to the biosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
Hachiroku ハチロク - 23 Apr 2009 00:47 GMT >>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/20/thin.global.warming/index.html? >>>>> iref=newssearch [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com) True. But look at the temperature drops. Do you think 100 PPM of CO2 is going to stop that freight train from hitting us?
Don Klipstein - 23 Apr 2009 02:10 GMT <edited for space>
>>> It is a definite cycle, and even the IPCC posted this >>>chart before they removed it: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >True. But look at the temperature drops. Do you think 100 PPM of CO2 is >going to stop that freight train from hitting us? Yes, I do. The variation in amount of sunlight due to the Milankovitch cycles is small, and the usual index of the Milankovitch cycles is how insolation varies at top of the atmosphere at the specific latitude of 65 degrees north. Only one of the Milankovitch cycles can affect global insolation - the eccentricity one. Meanwhile, I doubt that CO2 concentration stopped increasing at 387 ppmv - it looks to me like it's going to go above 500. In the past decade, it has increased at a rate of about 20 ppmv per decade, and the increase will not slow down until fossil fuel consumption slows down.
(Excluding the low carb newsgroup from crossposting)
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
Hachiroku ハチロク - 23 Apr 2009 04:57 GMT > <edited for space> > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com) Have a look at the chart I posted. It a cycle. Even 250PPM of CO2 isn't going to stop that.
I heard a report today that sun activity is at very low levels. Perhaps that's what causes the cooling to start. Algore be damned...
Milankovitch cycles are just a theory.
Roger Blake - 23 Apr 2009 12:29 GMT > Have a look at the chart I posted. It a cycle. Even 250PPM of CO2 isn't > going to stop that. It's not about the science. Anyone with open eyes can see that there is no scientific 'consensus,' and can read the admissions of environmentalists who confess that they deliberately lie to foment political change. What it's really about is POWER (the political kind). The 'progressives' have been looking for decades for the issue that will permit them to take control of all aspects of individuals' lives. Controlling carbon is a politician's and bureaucrat's dream, as it means control of life itself. And just think of the revenue that can be generated!
Not even the smallest detail is being left unscrutinized, no stone left unturned by determined Warmists. In the land of fruit and nuts (California), as the state's economy continues to collapse the apparatchiks are busy pushing through regulations on what color cars are permitted to be sold there. (You see, those evil dark-colored vehicles require more air conditioning, needing more fuel - you know the rest!) The mind boggles.
There is absolutely no part of your life that dedicated leftists do not want to have complete control over, and 'global warming' is their means of getting there.
 Signature Roger Blake (Subtract 10s for email. "Google Groups" messages killfiled due to spam.) "Obama dozed while people froze."
Hachiroku ハチロク - 23 Apr 2009 22:36 GMT > Not even the smallest detail is being left unscrutinized, no stone > left unturned by determined Warmists. In the land of fruit and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > do not want to have complete control over, and 'global warming' > is their means of getting there. You need to come to the Toyota group! ;) (We need some support there. )
Doug Freyburger - 23 Apr 2009 16:37 GMT > > Hachiroku quoted: > > >>http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/_res/CO2-01.jpg The time scale of that graph is very long. It does not show if historical changes in climate happened before or after the CO2 levels changed. That detail is important when considering the nature part of the cause and effect - If the historical CO2 levels trailed the climate change then the CO2 level is the effect not the cause. It weakens the human causation argument - Of course anyone who thinks the percentage of human effect is either 100% or 0% does not understand the issues.
> > You cited a chart showing how in the past few hundred thousand years CO2 > > has varied from about 185 to about 290 PPMV in response to the > > Milankovitch Cycles, as one of the positive feedback mechanisms thereto. > > Throughout that stretch, carbon content in the sum of the biosphere, > > hydrosphere and atmosphere has been fairly constant. Changes in solar output and in orbital/rotational inclination may have been the cause of prior cycles, but what of volcanic CO2 release? If CO2 is the cause not the effect then tracking volcanic history is important.
> > Meanwhile, since the Industrial Revolution we have achieved 387 PPMV CO2 > > and going up by transferring carbon from the lithosphere to the biosphere, > > hydrosphere and atmosphere. And the volcanic input to atmospheric CO2 is also important. In the case of human generated freon and volcanic released chlorine even though the freon lasts far longer in the atmosphere the volume of volcanic chlorine is so vast it still dominates by orders of magnitude. But how large is the volcanic release of CO2 compared to humans burning fossil fuels and forrests? Given the CO2 effect of forrsts I tend to think burning the forrests has a larger effect than either fossil fuels or volcanic release.
> True. But look at the temperature drops. Do you think 100 PPM of CO2 is > going to stop that freight train from hitting us? Maybe. It's definitely the opposite of the current view on human caused global warming enthusiasts - Burn as much coal as possible to try to ward off the on-coming ice age. It's a major stretch to decide to try something like that in the face of current conclusions that human CO2 has a high percentage impact to the known current global warming. There was a post elsewhere in the thread that discussed the politics of the matter. Burning more coal based on such a conclusion goes in the face of the political situation and may be a very bad idea if the solar variance is not about to trigger the next expected ice age.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 23 Apr 2009 22:34 GMT >> > Hachiroku quoted: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > course anyone who thinks the percentage of human effect is > either 100% or 0% does not understand the issues. Well said! It is hard to tell if CO2 leads temperature, or if temperature leads CO2. There is another chart out there somewhere that looks like temperature leading CO2. If that's the case, the Global Warming crown is mostly all wet. Also, notice the shift from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change", since a lot of them are starting to realize it's not "Global".
If Temp leads CO2, it's going to get really cold in the next 100 years or so...
And, I usually make this disclaimer: even if we aren't causing "Climate Change", we *STILL* need to clean up our act!!!
There are other things to consider than raising the temp few degrees.
Don Klipstein - 24 Apr 2009 01:19 GMT >Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote: >> > Hachiroku quoted: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >course anyone who thinks the percentage of human effect is >either 100% or 0% does not understand the issues. They have determined roughly that atmospheric CO2 content, from a hew hundred thousand years ago to the begining of the Industrial Revolution, has on average lagged global temperature by 800 years. Warmer oceans hold it less easily, so warming the oceans transfers CO2 from the oceans to the atmosphere. During that time, atmospheric CO2 content was a major positive feedback contributing to great global temperature change resulting from the "eccentricity" one of the Milankovitch cycles (one less restricted to a specific latitude zone).
Since the Undustrial Revolution, global temperature has largely lagged atmospheric CO2 content by a few years. And warming is not transferring CO2 from the oceans to the atmosphere - the oceans are actually removing CO2 from the atmosphere. The atmosphere is gaining CO2 at a slower rate than fossil fuel combustion is producing it.
>> > You cited a chart showing how in the past few hundred thousand years CO2 >> > has varied from about 185 to about 290 PPMV in response to the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >the volume of volcanic chlorine is so vast it still dominates by >orders of magnitude. Volcanic chlorine is inorganic, largely chlorides, which end up dissolved in cloud droplets and precipitation very quickly.
> But how large is the volcanic release of >CO2 compared to humans burning fossil fuels and forrests? On average, about 1/100 or 1/200 as much or so.
>Given the CO2 effect of forrsts I tend to think burning the forrests >has a larger effect than either fossil fuels or volcanic release. There are some figures in:
http://lgmacweb.env.uea.ac.uk/lequere/co2/carbon_budget.htm
Figures here are PgC, petagrams (metric gigatons) of carbon. 1 PgC in the form of carbon dioxide is 3.667 petagrams of carbon dioxide.
<SNIP from here>
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
ashsmh - 29 Apr 2009 23:41 GMT > In <d7dea7c2-5aa4-496d-b886-14e787f3d...@v4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com) We should do our part to containing global warming by using Renewable Energy Solutions. Checkout this website http://www.make-my-home-green.com for some solutions
Hachiroku ハチロク - 30 Apr 2009 01:47 GMT >> In <d7dea7c2-5aa4-496d-b886-14e787f3d...@v4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>, >> [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > Energy Solutions. Checkout this website http://www.make-my-home-green.com > for some solutions I obviously don't agree that Global Warming is man made, since these cycles have been happening since 'man' was slime in the ocean...
However, that does not mean we can ignore the ecology. Such strange happenings as thinning, brittle coral, depletion of fish in the oceans, mecury content in fish, etc mean that we have to do SOMETHING.
The probablity of Global Warming not being caused by man does not mean we can keep wrecking the planet Just Because...
Alan - 22 Apr 2009 15:40 GMT > Over in a.a.toyotas, we have interesting discussions. I wanted to be a > geologist, but didn't have the math skills, so I took all the geology [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > already > begun. I'll believe you :-) Seriously, where did the data come from, for without data references...
Alan
Hachiroku ハチロク - 23 Apr 2009 00:46 GMT >> Over in a.a.toyotas, we have interesting discussions. I wanted to be a >> geologist, but didn't have the math skills, so I took all the geology [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Alan That came from Wikipedia and is copied from data gleaned from ice core samples taken a few years ago.
Everyone Knows, "You can tell an attorney is lying because his mouth is moving"
If this Global Warming BS is so real, why in the he11 would anyone let Al Gore (an attorney who has a vested personal monetary interest in his viewpoint) discuss this before congress, and then forbid a real honest to God scientist to even appear and testify.
The Global Warming Environmental Wackos are that afraid of the TRUTH!
Hachiroku ハチロク - 27 Apr 2009 02:31 GMT > Everyone Knows, "You can tell an attorney is lying because his mouth is > moving" [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > viewpoint) discuss this before congress, and then forbid a real honest > to God scientist to even appear and testify. The guy isn't really a scientist. Gee, a lot like Al Gore!
> The Global Warming Environmental Wackos are that afraid of the TRUTH! And Al stands to make a LOT on carbon credits!
What I find interesting is no one calls him on his hypocrasy of telling others what to do, and then lighting his swimming pool 24/7...
His MONTHLY bill is more than my YEARLY bill!
miguel - 27 Apr 2009 03:25 GMT On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:31:06 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS> wrote:
>> Everyone Knows, "You can tell an attorney is lying because his mouth is >> moving" [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >His MONTHLY bill is more than my YEARLY bill! Evidence?
Hachiroku ハチロク - 27 Apr 2009 04:28 GMT > On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:31:06 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> > Evidence? Dude, your head been in the sand long? Check the date! It was all over the news.
Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- $30,000 utility bill Wednesday, February 28, 2007 | 11:08 AM ABCNews
(2/27/07 - NASHVILLE, TN) -- Back home in Tennessee, safely ensconced in his suburban Nashville home, Vice President Al Gore is no doubt basking in the Oscar awarded to "An Inconvenient Truth," the documentary he inspired and in which he starred. But a local free-market think tank is trying to make that very home emblematic of what it deems Gore's environmental hypocrisy.
Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours.
m6onz5a - 21 Apr 2009 16:08 GMT > http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/20/thin.global.warming/index.html?i... > wssearch [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > schools, putting nutritional information on food packages and menus, and > banning trans fats, he said. Sounds like a job for Mythbusters.
The Master - 21 Apr 2009 16:37 GMT > Thinner is better to curb global warming, study says Fantastic! I'm glad I'm fat then. Global warming is a f.cking joke, and every earth day I burn my garbage just for kicks.
Anthony Allende - 21 Apr 2009 23:17 GMT >> Thinner is better to curb global warming, study says > > Fantastic! I'm glad I'm fat then. Global warming is a f.cking joke, and > every earth day I burn my garbage just for kicks. You're offensive in so many ways.
The Master - 21 Apr 2009 23:43 GMT >>> Thinner is better to curb global warming, study says >> >> Fantastic! I'm glad I'm fat then. Global warming is a f.cking joke, and >> every earth day I burn my garbage just for kicks. > > You're offensive in so many ways. Thank you. Isn't the first amendment great?
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Hachiroku ハチロク - 22 Apr 2009 03:27 GMT >> Thinner is better to curb global warming, study says > > Fantastic! I'm glad I'm fat then. Global warming is a f.cking joke, and > every earth day I burn my garbage just for kicks. I take the oldest car I have out for a ride, spewing blue smoke all the way.
Hoots - 22 Apr 2009 12:09 GMT >>> Thinner is better to curb global warming, study says >> Fantastic! I'm glad I'm fat then. Global warming is a f.cking joke, and >> every earth day I burn my garbage just for kicks. > > I take the oldest car I have out for a ride, spewing blue smoke all the > way. Leaving a big carbon footprint, eh?
That should do it!
Roger Blake - 22 Apr 2009 14:42 GMT > Leaving a big carbon footprint, eh? Ditto here. I'm 'celebrating' Earth Day by driving around in the biggest, least fuel-efficient, most polluting vehicle in my little fleet. (A huge, early 1970s-vintage station wagon with nearly zero emission controls on its big, thirsty V8 engine.)
In addition I will be leaving all of the lights in the house on all day. (They are all 100-watt or higher incandescents, of course.) I'm also cranking up the thermostat as high as I can stand it - just like Mr. Obama does at the White House.
Screw the environmentalsts. (Hippies. Can't stand 'em.)
 Signature Roger Blake (Subtract 10s for email. "Google Groups" messages killfiled due to spam.) "Obama dozed while people froze."
Hachiroku ハチロク - 23 Apr 2009 00:44 GMT >> Leaving a big carbon footprint, eh? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Screw the environmentalsts. (Hippies. Can't stand 'em.) Wow! Over in the Toyota group, talk like that would get you branded a kook or a Neocon.
Of course, that's from K00L-Aid drinking Algore kissers...
Hachiroku ハチロク - 23 Apr 2009 00:42 GMT >>>> Thinner is better to curb global warming, study says >>> Fantastic! I'm glad I'm fat then. Global warming is a f.cking joke, and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > That should do it! As a matter of fact....!
I took my '89 Mazda today since it was raining and I didn't want to get the Supra or the Scion wet.
I had to drive 25 miles at 68 MPH to get to my first appointment on time. When I finished, I started the car. The oil in the valve train pooled in the valve stems and leaked past the seals. On start-up the car farted a nice sized cloud of blue smoke.
Happy Earth Day!!!
Hoots - 23 Apr 2009 13:05 GMT >>>>> Thinner is better to curb global warming, study says >>>> Fantastic! I'm glad I'm fat then. Global warming is a f.cking joke, and [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Happy Earth Day!!! Sounds like you didn't have a rotary engine. Those guys, the early ones at least, can sure make a blue cloud. Good backfires, too.
Hachiroku ハチロク - 23 Apr 2009 22:30 GMT >>>>>> Thinner is better to curb global warming, study says >>>>> Fantastic! I'm glad I'm fat then. Global warming is a f.cking joke, and [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Sounds like you didn't have a rotary engine. Those guys, the early ones > at least, can sure make a blue cloud. Good backfires, too. I used to have one of these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_two-stroke
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Saab_2stroke_engine.jpg
http://www.philseed.com/images/saab93b-a.jpg
The induction system stopped working long before I got it, so I had to mix oil with the gas. Of course, I had to put in enough to cover highway speeds, so at lower speed it gave a nice cloud behind it. We used to call it "Purple Haze".
Hoots - 24 Apr 2009 11:18 GMT >>>>>>> Thinner is better to curb global warming, study says >>>>>> Fantastic! I'm glad I'm fat then. Global warming is a f.cking joke, and [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > speeds, so at lower speed it gave a nice cloud behind it. We used to call > it "Purple Haze". I had an old Capri that did that - I said I was "fogging for mosquitoes".
The Master - 23 Apr 2009 17:29 GMT On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Hachiroku �ϥ���� wrote:
> I had to drive 25 miles at 68 MPH to get to my first appointment on time. > When I finished, I started the car. The oil in the valve train pooled in > the valve stems and leaked past the seals. On start-up the car farted a > nice sized cloud of blue smoke. LOL! You are a hero!
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Hachiroku ハチロク - 23 Apr 2009 22:27 GMT > On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Hachiroku ¥Ï¥Á¥í¥¯ wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > LOL! You are a hero! <Bow>
> . > . > . > . > . > . Gordon Burditt - 24 Apr 2009 08:31 GMT >Thinner is better to curb global warming, study says Another logical conclusion of the study is that dead is even better for the environment than either thin or fat. If a fatty wants to be carbon-neutral, he can just sit on 2 thin people until they die.
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