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Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds'
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Maureen - 07 May 2009 11:33 GMT http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20276768,00.html
Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds' By Elizabeth Leonard
Originally posted Wednesday May 06, 2009 06:00 AM EDT
When Kirstie Alley stepped on the scale for the first time in 15 months, it wasn't pretty. "I started screaming," recalls Alley, sipping homemade fruit-infused water in her Hollywood kitchen. "It said 228 lbs., which is my highest weight ever. I was so much more disgusting than I thought!"
But looking back, Alley, 58, is hardly shocked. During her three-year stint as a Jenny Craig spokeswoman, she famously trimmed down to 145 lbs. after losing and keeping off 75 lbs. But since parting ways with the company in 2007, she had not worked out and banished her gym equipment to the garage. As for her diet, her small, low-calorie portions gave way to Chinese takeout and pasta drenched with butter. "I fell off the horse," says the 5'8" star.
Today, Alley says she is primed to hire a trainer, toss the butter and sign up for a triathlon in order to whittle her "schlumpy" figure back down to a bikini-ready 140 lbs. "I'm going to have to work harder than last time," she says, but "I'm way excited." In a candid interview, Alley sat down with PEOPLE's Elizabeth Leonard to talk about how she piled on the pounds and how she plans to get her body, confidence and yes! even her groove back.
Okay, how did this happen?
It started with New Year's [2008], right after leaving Jenny Craig. When you're a spokesperson for Jenny Craig, there's responsibility. You have a person every week standing over you when you get on the scale, and I did it naked because those panties could weigh 30 lbs.! It was amazingly successful. But the first nail in the coffin was that I didn't have to weigh in. I just sort of went wild.
Did you go right back to indulging in cakes and pies the way you did the first time you let yourself go?
It wasn't the exact same M.O. My food demons are Chinese food, sugar, butter. A lot of butter. If I'm at the movies, usually I eat popcorn without butter, but I'd say, "I'm at the movies, so who cares?" And toast with butter. Or let's say I had two cups of pasta and six tablespoons of butter on it. There was a lot of butter going on.
What else would you eat?
For seven months I was a vegetarian, and I can't tell you how much weight I gained being a vegetarian! A vegetarian would probably be eating vegetables. But to me being a vegetarian meant I'm going to eat enchiladas with no meat, and I'm going to eat lots of bread, lots of carbs.
What weight do you want to get down to?
I have to be below 140 to really look good. I have to work my legs like crazy. Actually, do you want my real goal? My real goal's always too low. I love the way I look at, like, 128. One time on Cheers, I weighed about 148 lbs., and they told me to lose, like, 20 lbs. Now, I'm 5'8", so at 148 lbs., I wasn't fat. But they're saying, "You know, you need to lose 20 lbs." So what does that put me at? 128. That's where I keep getting this number.
Are you self-conscious?
I'm totally inhibited. When I'm overweight I will not go out. With my closest friends, yeah. But you wouldn't see me at a premiere.
But you seem ready to turn your life around.
I'm ready to work. I messed up along the way, but I'm not going to concentrate on that. I'm gonna go, "You know what? Get back on the horse, lose the freakin' weight, and then just move forward!"
For more on Kirstie's journey from slim to "schlumpy" including her comments on her kids, her sex life and how she plans to lose the pounds pick up the new issue of PEOPLE, on newsstands Friday
To keep up with Kirstie's journey, follow her on Twitter at Twitter.com/kirstiealley
Robyn Kingsize - 07 May 2009 11:51 GMT >http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20276768,00.html > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] >To keep up with Kirstie's journey, follow her on Twitter at >Twitter.com/kirstiealley No metter how much she eats and exercises, Kirstie Alley will always return to her setpoint of 228 pounds.
Hoots - 07 May 2009 12:38 GMT >> http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20276768,00.html >> [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > No metter how much she eats and exercises, Kirstie Alley will always return > to her setpoint of 228 pounds. I know she's a ding dong and she eats too many ding dongs, but I still would like to ding her with my dong.
Why is that?
the.sargon@gmail.com - 07 May 2009 15:01 GMT > >>http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20276768,00.html > [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > > Why is that? Cuz you're a lesbian?
Me too, but I want her in a red star trek outfit with vulcan ears.
Hoots - 08 May 2009 01:42 GMT >>>> http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20276768,00.html >>>> Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds' [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > > Me too, but I want her in a red star trek outfit with vulcan ears. That's the very ding I wanted to dong.
Anthony Allende - 07 May 2009 15:45 GMT I think converting her home gym to a dining room could have been a sign she was headed back up
> http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20276768,00.html > [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > To keep up with Kirstie's journey, follow her on Twitter at > Twitter.com/kirstiealley The Master - 07 May 2009 16:59 GMT > Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds' She looks better big. Skinny Kirstie is NOT attractive... However, her gaining the weight back only adds to the evidence that the weight lost by dieting is only temporary. Once you stop dieting, the weight comes back. And who wants to diet the rest of their life?
Anthony Allende - 07 May 2009 17:47 GMT >> Kirstie Alley: 'Yes, I Gained 83 Pounds' > > She looks better big. Skinny Kirstie is NOT attractive... However, her > gaining the weight back only adds to the evidence that the weight lost by > dieting is only temporary. Once you stop dieting, the weight comes back. > And who wants to diet the rest of their life? Don't be stupid. You can lose weight and keep it off by eating sensibly. The fact that you don't want to is your problem.
The Master - 07 May 2009 17:55 GMT >> She looks better big. Skinny Kirstie is NOT attractive... However, her >> gaining the weight back only adds to the evidence that the weight lost by >> dieting is only temporary. Once you stop dieting, the weight comes back. >> And who wants to diet the rest of their life? > > Don't be stupid. You can lose weight and keep it off by eating sensibly. Sensibly, eh? Always looking after what you eat, monitoring calorie intake, making sure you eat the veggies instead of the cake, stuff like that? People like calling it a "lifestyle change", when it reality it's nothing but a glorified diet...
The moment you STOP monitoring your calorie intake, the moment you STOP concentrating on exactly what you are putting into your body, the monent you STOP dieting, you return to your old ways, as shown by Kirstie...
Long term weight loss through dieting means a long term diet.
Kaz Kylheku - 07 May 2009 19:46 GMT > The moment you STOP monitoring your calorie intake, the moment you STOP > concentrating on exactly what you are putting into your body, the monent > you STOP dieting, you return to your old ways, as shown by Kirstie... Sure. If you stop watering your plants, they will die. If you stop brushing your teeth, they will decay. If you stop changing the oil in your car, the engine will eventually seize. If you stop breathing, you will asphyxiate. If you stop bathing and showering, you will reek. If you stop earning above your spending, you will go broke.
Some things in life just require continuous, diligent maintenance!
Bummer!
But you know, in the world there are billions of people with normal weight, who don't monitor what they eat, and do not regard themselves to be on a diet.
You just have an out of whack idea of what is a diet.
Not all eating which is less than stuffing your face constitutes a diet, even if it leads to weight loss.
A diet is a way of eating that, if sustained, leads to abnormal weight loss and emaciated appearance. A way of eating that over the long term results in a normal weight and appearance, even if slender, is not a diet. It's normal eating. If the human body came with a reference manual, that kind of eating might appear as an example representing an eating quantity that is in the recommended range.
The Master - 07 May 2009 20:25 GMT > A diet is a way of eating that, if sustained, leads to abnormal weight loss and > emaciated appearance. A way of eating that over the long term results in a > normal weight and appearance, even if slender, is not a diet. It's normal > eating. "A regulated selection of foods, as for medical reasons or cosmetic weight loss" - www.thefreedictionary.com/diet
You see, Kirstie started eating "normal" again, rather then the cardboard tasting sh.t that they sell you at Weight Watchers. Over time, she put the weight back on. So she's not allowed to return to "normal", because "normal" makes her big again, obviously...
So people like you use the term "life style change", yes? You have to eat a specific way, to maintain weight loss. That's a glorified diet, by definition, since it is the regulated selection of foods...
Willow Herself - 07 May 2009 20:53 GMT I don't see eating a ton of butter on top of everything being "normal".
Am I weird?
Will~
>> A diet is a way of eating that, if sustained, leads to abnormal weight >> loss and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > a specific way, to maintain weight loss. That's a glorified diet, by > definition, since it is the regulated selection of foods... Hoots - 08 May 2009 01:44 GMT > I don't see eating a ton of butter on top of everything being "normal". > > Am I weird? > > Will~ I suppose it depends on who you eat it on top of...
>>> A diet is a way of eating that, if sustained, leads to abnormal weight >>> loss and [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> a specific way, to maintain weight loss. That's a glorified diet, by >> definition, since it is the regulated selection of foods... Willow Herself - 08 May 2009 02:46 GMT >> I don't see eating a ton of butter on top of everything being "normal". >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I suppose it depends on who you eat it on top of... That would be whipped cream, or honey... ;op
>>>> A diet is a way of eating that, if sustained, leads to abnormal weight >>>> loss and [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>> eat a specific way, to maintain weight loss. That's a glorified diet, >>> by definition, since it is the regulated selection of foods... Hoots - 08 May 2009 12:21 GMT >>> I don't see eating a ton of butter on top of everything being "normal". >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > That would be whipped cream, or honey... ;op Sure thing, sweetie... :-P
>>>>> A diet is a way of eating that, if sustained, leads to abnormal weight >>>>> loss and [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>>> eat a specific way, to maintain weight loss. That's a glorified diet, >>>> by definition, since it is the regulated selection of foods... Stormmee - 08 May 2009 08:17 GMT no its not normal but is one of my issues, i can eat fat, any fat like most others eat sweets or carbs, so i am extra viligent as i know it will get out of hand very quickly, to pay attention to yourself and what you can eat or have to keep control of it is some great advice, Lee
>I don't see eating a ton of butter on top of everything being "normal". > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> eat a specific way, to maintain weight loss. That's a glorified diet, by >> definition, since it is the regulated selection of foods... Anthony Allende - 07 May 2009 20:55 GMT >> A diet is a way of eating that, if sustained, leads to abnormal weight >> loss and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > a specific way, to maintain weight loss. That's a glorified diet, by > definition, since it is the regulated selection of foods... Call it what you want. The results are the same. Eat the crap that she eats, pay the consequences of being huge.
Sorry it doesn't take that much effort and willpower to avoid glopping butter all over my food and eating four courses of Chinese food every time I go out to eat. Smart choices lead to a healthy lifestyle.
The Master - 07 May 2009 21:16 GMT >> So people like you use the term "life style change", yes? You have to eat >> a specific way, to maintain weight loss. That's a glorified diet, by >> definition, since it is the regulated selection of foods... > > Call it what you want. The results are the same. Eat the crap that she > eats, pay the consequences of being huge. Fantastic, we are in agreement... That wasn't so bad, was it?
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Robin King - 08 May 2009 02:03 GMT > Sorry it doesn't take that much effort and willpower to avoid glopping > butter all over my food and eating four courses of Chinese food every time I > go out to eat. Not comparable. If you were sufficiently hungry, as you might be if you lost 75 pounds, you would want more food and richer food.
> Smart choices lead to a healthy lifestyle. Agreed. But they won't necessarily lead to much weight loss.
Robin
Misanthropic Curmudgeon - 08 May 2009 06:07 GMT On May 8, 7:25 am, The Master <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote: [snip]
> You see, Kirstie started eating "normal" again [snip] she's > not allowed to return to "normal", because "normal" > makes her big again, obviously... What is 'normal; about scoffing down crap covered in butter?
Dee Flint - 08 May 2009 16:11 GMT >> A diet is a way of eating that, if sustained, leads to abnormal weight >> loss and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the weight back on. So she's not allowed to return to "normal", because > "normal" makes her big again, obviously... I almost never eat the WW products and have lost 70 pounds. I eat beef, potatoes, ice cream and whatever else I want. I just eat them in sensible quantities now. I also balance my eating with the appropriate amounts of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, lean protein and healthy oil. We have so totally lost site of proper eating that people think an 8 ounce steak is what you should eat when in reality it should be 3 or 4 ounces. It's even OK to eat candy. However a reasonable amount in a day is one piece out of the box not the entire box and so on.
Weight Watchers doesn't really expect people to spend the rest of their lives eating the WW products. Matter of fact they don't even expect you to make them the basis of the program. They are merely a convenience for the busy people and a crutch for the new people who have so much to learn.
> So people like you use the term "life style change", yes? You have to eat > a specific way, to maintain weight loss. That's a glorified diet, by > definition, since it is the regulated selection of foods... That's certainly better than the other choice. Ever increasing weight from unregulated and unbalanced eating will lead to discomfort at a minimum, ill health for the majority, and early death for many.
MU - 09 May 2009 18:33 GMT > I almost never eat the WW products and have lost 70 pounds. I eat beef, > potatoes, ice cream and whatever else I want. I just eat them in sensible [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > OK to eat candy. However a reasonable amount in a day is one piece out of > the box not the entire box and so on. Good for you. I noted that you used the term "quantity" instead od cal counting, excellent.
> Weight Watchers doesn't really expect people to spend the rest of their > lives eating the WW products. Matter of fact they don't even expect you to > make them the basis of the program. They are merely a convenience for the > busy people and a crutch for the new people who have so much to learn. Well said.
> That's certainly better than the other choice. Ever increasing weight from > unregulated and unbalanced eating will lead to discomfort at a minimum, ill > health for the majority, and early death for many. Spot on.
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Willow Herself - 07 May 2009 20:52 GMT >>> She looks better big. Skinny Kirstie is NOT attractive... However, her >>> gaining the weight back only adds to the evidence that the weight lost [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > that? People like calling it a "lifestyle change", when it reality it's > nothing but a glorified diet... I'm not monitoring my calories, I would, by far, rather eat well prepared vegetables and fruits than cake, which I have occasionally. I eat good quality, delicious tasting healthy foods, and I've been at a healthy weight for over 6 years now.
The fact that you can't (or refuse to) take yourself in hand doesn't mean it's not reasonable, it's just means that apparently it's not for you.
> The moment you STOP monitoring your calorie intake, the moment you STOP > concentrating on exactly what you are putting into your body, the monent > you STOP dieting, you return to your old ways, as shown by Kirstie... Sorry but I'm showing otherwise.. I'm not in any way depriving myself, and though my weight fluctuates by + or - 8-10 lbs, I'm nowhere near struggling with the 70+ lbs that I had to lose originally... I'm Canadian, I gain 8-10 lbs in the winter, and lose it when summers show up! AH!
> Long term weight loss through dieting means a long term diet. No, it means learning to deal with yourself instead of hiding behind a donut. It's not that hard to do, all you have to do is ditch the excuses and pay attention to yourself.
Will~
The Master - 07 May 2009 21:13 GMT >> Long term weight loss through dieting means a long term diet. > > No, it means learning to deal with yourself instead of hiding behind a > donut. It's not that hard to do, all you have to do is ditch the excuses and > pay attention to yourself. ROTFLMAO! Soooo.... Once I pay attention to myself, I will magically not like donuts and instead want carrots? I actually hate carrots. Do you eat salad? I don't... You know why? I don't like salad. If I eat salad, I'll be forcing myself to do it, regulating my food intake, and thus I'll be dieting.
On the contrary, you still crave that donut, don't you? It still calls your name, still finds it way into your dreams... MMmmmm, sugary goodness... Then, you get pissed, and eat a fresh veggie, insisting that you don't need one, trying to convince yourself that you don't want one... But deep down, you know you want it.
It must take a lot of energy to artificially change the way you want to eat... Sounds like a much lower quality of life if you ask me.
Anthony Allende - 07 May 2009 21:19 GMT >>> Long term weight loss through dieting means a long term diet. >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > It must take a lot of energy to artificially change the way you want to > eat... Sounds like a much lower quality of life if you ask me. Yeah being unable to walk a mile without gwetting out of breath and having to get an extension to fit a lap belt around you on an airliner.
Now there's a great quality of life.
Willow Herself - 07 May 2009 22:41 GMT >>>> Long term weight loss through dieting means a long term diet. >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Now there's a great quality of life. I'll take my delicious healthy meals and my run on the beach with my dog against that any time! ;op
Willow Herself - 07 May 2009 22:40 GMT >>> Long term weight loss through dieting means a long term diet. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ROTFLMAO! Soooo.... Once I pay attention to myself, I will magically not > like donuts and instead want carrots? Donut is a bad exemple, I never liked them.. but let say chips, I still like them, I still eat them. when I do, I take my time, I actually eat them, instead of inhaling them at 200 mph, and just by doing that, I need about 2 handful instead of a costco sized bag. I'm truly satisfied with that. I've been known to not even finish my little portion because I just was satisfied.
It's not magical, or unnatural, it's just human nature.
I actually hate carrots. Do you
> eat salad? I don't... You know why? I don't like salad. If I eat > salad, I'll be forcing myself to do it, regulating my food intake, and > thus I'll be dieting. I rarely eat salad now, not crazy about it anymore myself, besides it takes too long to prepare. I eat them in the summer, when the veggies are at their peak. If you don't like salads, don't eat them. Why would you? There is much more to healthy food than salad.
> On the contrary, you still crave that donut, don't you? As I said, donut isn't my thing, chips are, and no I don't really crave them. When I do, I eat some, I take my time to really taste them and enjoy them, then I'm done.
It still calls
> your name, still finds it way into your dreams... MMmmmm, sugary > goodness... Then, you get pissed, and eat a fresh veggie, insisting that > you don't need one, trying to convince yourself that you don't want one... > But deep down, you know you want it. That is such a load of bullshit. I never get there because when I crave something I have it. The only difference is that instead of having a massive amount of cheap stuff that I eat too fast to even taste it, I have the good quality stuff, and take my time so that I can really truly enjoy it.
I don't deprive myself, when I do it backfires big time.
> It must take a lot of energy to artificially change the way you want to > eat... Sounds like a much lower quality of life if you ask me. It did take some work at first, learning about food, nutrition, learning how to cook. There's nothing artificial about it, I eat good quality food, that is healthy, as unprocessed as possible (not a fanatic about that, but I do try to eat "fresh").
I'm lucky that I am in the Bay Area (California) where everything is easily accessible. It did take some effort at first, but it's totally worth it to me. I'm not saying that you have to do it. Don't really care what you do, but you're projecting again. The fact that you are not motivated to do it, that you don't want to try it doesn't mean that it's impossible or unreasonable to others.
I don't dream about junk food because I've replaced it with much more enjoyable healthy foods. Instead of filling my dead time with foods, I fill my boredom with activity, playing outside, wrestling with my dog. It works for me...
MU - 09 May 2009 18:30 GMT >>> Long term weight loss through dieting means a long term diet. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > salad, I'll be forcing myself to do it, regulating my food intake, and > thus I'll be dieting. Then why do it? Unless of course you don't care about your health.
> On the contrary, you still crave that donut, don't you? Naw, I eat it.
> It still calls > your name, still finds it way into your dreams... MMmmmm, sugary > goodness... Then, you get pissed, and eat a fresh veggie, insisting that > you don't need one, trying to convince yourself that you don't want one... > But deep down, you know you want it. If you want to have a fascination, a love affair with food, go right ahead. Have food babies for all I care.
Mu, OTOH, doesn't spend anytime at all worrying and planning about food. I see food, I eat food when I get hungry enough. Not really hungry, really hungry now not just hungry, don't eat.
> It must take a lot of energy to artificially change the way you want to > eat... Sounds like a much lower quality of life if you ask me. Takes less energy than worrying about donuts v.s. celery or a myriad of other things "food" floating around in your head.
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MU - 09 May 2009 18:37 GMT >>> She looks better big. Skinny Kirstie is NOT attractive... However, her >>> gaining the weight back only adds to the evidence that the weight lost by [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Sensibly, eh? Always looking after what you eat, Don't do it.
> monitoring calorie > intake, Useless, inaccurate, waste of time.
> making sure you eat the veggies instead of the cake, stuff like > that? People like calling it a "lifestyle change", when it reality it's > nothing but a glorified diet... Eating down to 2PD for most everyone includes viewing food for what it is, a necessity not a fanciful way of living. So, yes, a lifestyle change for most everyone.
> The moment you STOP monitoring your calorie intake, the moment you STOP > concentrating on exactly what you are putting into your body, the monent > you STOP dieting, you return to your old ways, as shown by Kirstie...
> Long term weight loss through dieting means a long term diet. Or would you call it proper consumption v.s. long term overconsumption. The labeling should be on the abnormal lifestyle not returning to the normal one.
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Kaz Kylheku - 07 May 2009 18:31 GMT > love the way I look at, like, 128. One time on Cheers, I weighed about 148 > lbs., and they told me to lose, like, 20 lbs. Now, I'm 5'8", so at 148 > lbs., I wasn't fat. But they're saying, "You know, you need to lose 20 > lbs." So what does that put me at? 128. That's where I keep getting this > number. ``They'' knew what they were talking about.
Look up Japanese actress Eriko Sato. 5'8", 117 pounds.
MU - 08 May 2009 20:10 GMT Alley is doomed to continuing failure as long as she gets crappy advice, believes exercise is a predominant effort in her weight loss and refuses to eat under 2 pounds per day.
Too bad. I had liked to think she would have learned from Oprah and had a few working brain cells.
MU
> http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20276768,00.html > [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > To keep up with Kirstie's journey, follow her on Twitter at > Twitter.com/kirstiealley
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