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Study blames over-eating, not poor exercise for US obesity
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Valerie - 13 May 2009 11:32 GMT http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iVSo13wdFDLDV1ZmKUFQ0bXf= cZxQ
Study blames over-eating, not poor exercise for US obesity 3 days ago
AMSTERDAM (AFP) =97 Over-eating, not a lack of exercise, is to blame for th= e American obesity epidemic, a new study claimed Friday, warning that physical activity could not fully compensate for excess calories.
"There is no evidence that a marked reduction in physical activity has been=
a contributor to this epidemic in the United States," study leader Boyd Swinburn told AFP on the sidelines of an international obesity conference in Amsterdam, where the research was unveiled.
"The increase in energy intake... virtually explained all of the weight gain."
Swinburn, a professor at the health faculty of Australia's Deakin University, said American children had grown on average four kilogrammes (nine pounds) heavier over the past three decades with adults putting on an=
extra eight kgs (17 pounds).
The study calculated what Americans should weigh today based on their current, higher food intake, and comparing this to their actual weight.
If they weighed more than projected, this would suggest a drop in physical activity.
In fact, researchers found that American adults weighed less than could be expected from their diet, "which means that if anything over that period of=
time, the adults had been increasing their physical activity, not decreasing," said Swinburn.
Among children, the tests yielded a 100 percent match, leading researchers to conclude that changes in physical activity had had no impact whatsoever on America's children growing fatter.
The findings would "probably be similar" for other developed countries, Swinburn said.
For the US population to return to its leaner, 1970s self, children would have to cut their intake by about 350 calories a day -- equal to one can of=
fizzy drink and a small portion of French fries, and adults by about 500 calories -- the equivalent of a Big Mac burger.
Alternatively, children would have to walk for an extra two-and-a-half hours a day, and adults for nearly two hours, said Swinburn.
"Getting everybody to walk an extra two hours a day is not really a feasible option for countering the epidemic," he said.
"We need to limit our expectations of what an increase in physical activity=
can achieve."
Swinburn stressed that the findings did not seek to negate the value of physical activity for weight control and overall health.
"But if we want to influence the underlying drivers (behind obesity), we have to have our eye much more on the energy intake side than on the physical activity side."
In short, Americans must eat less, he said.
The World Health Organisation estimates that in 2005, about 1.6 billion adults were overweight, of which at least 400 million were obese.
The conference was organised by the European Association for the Study of Obesity.
Kaz Kylheku - 13 May 2009 17:27 GMT > Study blames over-eating, not poor exercise for US obesity Study not required.
> AMSTERDAM (AFP) =97 Over-eating, not a lack of exercise, is to blame for th= > e > American obesity epidemic, a new study claimed Friday, warning that > physical activity could not fully compensate for excess calories. No sh.t. Every 1000 kcal calls for 10 miles of running. Good luck with that, Average American.
> "There is no evidence that a marked reduction in physical activity has been= A reduction from next to nothing down to nothing makes little difference.
Study concluded. Where do I publish?
wismel@yahoo.com - 14 May 2009 00:52 GMT >http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iVSo13wdFDLDV1ZmKUFQ0bXf= >cZxQ [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] >The conference was organised by the European Association for the Study of >Obesity> I like the idea of a "fat tax" in principle. How,what, and where is another story.
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adfasdfkh@asidufh.com - 14 May 2009 16:22 GMT I think this is a sh.t study. I think it sends a harmful message. I think a lack of exercise is also a major contributor to obesity. I gained some weight in junior high and high school after they let me not take P.E. class. I think there are a lot of crappy little studies that are misleading. They probably are done by clueless college students who have their heads up their a.ses. I suspect that studies such as this one are actually done to encourage obesity and poor health so that the medical industry will benefit from a greater number of sick people in the American population. I think it is really harmful to imply that exercise is not that important. I think there are probably a lot of lazy a.s people who want to lose weight without exercising. You HAVE to exercise to be healthy. Just accept it and DEAL with it! I think weight loss without exercise is probably doomed to fail and you will gain back the weight.
Eat healthy. Exercise. Lower your caloric intake.
That's the only sensible way to go. And if you try to get around it, you're an idiot or a fool.
MU - 14 May 2009 19:30 GMT > I think this is a sh.t study. I think it sends a harmful message. > I think a lack of exercise is also a major contributor to obesity. It's not.
> I gained some weight in junior high and high school after they let me > not take P.E. class. You ate more guaranteed.
> I suspect that studies such as this one are actually done to encourage > obesity and poor health so that the medical industry will benefit from > a greater number of sick people in the American population. Possibly.
> I think it is really harmful to imply that exercise is not that > important. It isn't in this context.
> I think there are probably a lot of lazy a.s people who want to lose > weight without exercising. They can.
> You HAVE to exercise to be healthy. Just accept it and DEAL with it! No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight permanently. Simple, eat 2 pounds per day.
> I think weight loss without exercise is probably doomed to fail and > you will gain back the weight. You'd be wrong.
> Eat healthy. > Exercise. > Lower your caloric intake. > > That's the only sensible way to go. > And if you try to get around it, you're an idiot or a fool. Hardly.
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Atheno - 14 May 2009 20:10 GMT >> I gained some weight in junior high and high school after they let me >> not take P.E. class. > > You ate more guaranteed. Duh ... earth shattering statement.
L.B. Listmann - 16 May 2009 03:46 GMT > No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight permanently. > Simple, eat 2 pounds per day. Eat 2 lbs of *WHAT?* No one knows what your magical manna was.
mbeerry - 16 May 2009 09:36 GMT >> No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight permanently. >> Simple, eat 2 pounds per day. > > Eat 2 lbs of *WHAT?* No one knows what your magical manna was. Prunes...
L.B. Listmann - 16 May 2009 22:07 GMT >>> No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight permanently. >>> Simple, eat 2 pounds per day. >> >> Eat 2 lbs of *WHAT?* No one knows what your magical manna was. > > Prunes... LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D
MU - 17 May 2009 20:50 GMT >>> No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight permanently. >>> Simple, eat 2 pounds per day. >> >> Eat 2 lbs of *WHAT?* No one knows what your magical manna was. > > Prunes... Go right ahead.
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Omelet - 17 May 2009 21:17 GMT > >>> No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight permanently. > >>> Simple, eat 2 pounds per day. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Go right ahead. Nice pun. <g>
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Atheno - 17 May 2009 21:49 GMT >>> Prunes... >> >> Go right ahead. > > Nice pun. <g> No doubt from the Gospel of John.
In a KIng's castle, it would be a Royal flush.
Let's all sing:
Loo loo loo, I've got some apples Loo loo loo, you've got some too Loo loo loo, let's get together I know what we can do, loo loo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1dDskKJZnM
MU - 17 May 2009 22:17 GMT >>>>> No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight permanently. >>>>> Simple, eat 2 pounds per day. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Nice pun. <g> I thought no one got it :)
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Atheno - 17 May 2009 22:22 GMT >> Nice pun. <g> > > I thought no one got it :) We also get that the 2 PD Omer is crap and belongs in the crapper.
Omelet - 18 May 2009 03:02 GMT > >>>>> No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight permanently. > >>>>> Simple, eat 2 pounds per day. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I thought no one got it :) It was very moving. ;-)
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Atheno - 18 May 2009 03:26 GMT >> I thought no one got it :) > > It was very moving. ;-) Appropriate situation to use a colon and semi-colon as it does not require any anal-ysis
Omelet - 18 May 2009 05:15 GMT > >> I thought no one got it :) > > > > It was very moving. ;-) > > Appropriate situation to use a colon and semi-colon as it does not require > any anal-ysis So long as it all comes out in the end.
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Atheno - 18 May 2009 05:32 GMT >>>> I thought no one got it :) >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > So long as it all comes out in the end. What Sigmoid Freud says to do when in a hole, is to use the best evacuation route.
Omelet - 18 May 2009 05:54 GMT > >>>> I thought no one got it :) > >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > What Sigmoid Freud says to do when in a hole, is to use the best evacuation > route. Tuck your head between your knees and kiss your a.s goodbye.
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Atheno - 18 May 2009 06:01 GMT >>>>>> I thought no one got it :) >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Tuck your head between your knees and kiss your a.s goodbye. In a fire, Friar Tuck would become Fryer Tuck.
Is a hippy Friar Tuck's home a Tucks pad?
Omelet - 18 May 2009 06:18 GMT > >>>>>> I thought no one got it :) > >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Is a hippy Friar Tuck's home a Tucks pad? It can get to be a serious pain in the a.s...
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Atheno - 18 May 2009 13:07 GMT >>>>>>>> I thought no one got it :) >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > It can get to be a serious pain in the a.s... With a big group, can be an ass-in-nine
Omelet - 18 May 2009 13:56 GMT > >>>>>>>> I thought no one got it :) > >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > With a big group, can be an ass-in-nine Butt it can still be phun.
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Atheno - 18 May 2009 14:06 GMT >>>>>>>>>> I thought no one got it :) >>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Butt it can still be phun. I think WC Fields said the same thing.
Omelet - 18 May 2009 14:22 GMT > >>>>>>>>>> I thought no one got it :) > >>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > I think WC Fields said the same thing. Don't be a party pooper!
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MU - 18 May 2009 08:11 GMT >>>>>>> No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight permanently. >>>>>>> Simple, eat 2 pounds per day. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > It was very moving. ;-) LOL Pushing on now....
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Omelet - 18 May 2009 10:33 GMT > >>>>>>> No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight > >>>>>>> permanently. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > LOL Pushing on now.... So long as you don't feel dumpy.
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Atheno - 18 May 2009 13:14 GMT >>>>>>>>> No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight >>>>>>>>> permanently. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > So long as you don't feel dumpy. If you do, see a doctor. The fee cal-eb charges are low.
Omelet - 18 May 2009 13:57 GMT > >>>>>>>>> No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight > >>>>>>>>> permanently. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > If you do, see a doctor. The fee cal-eb charges are low. Ok, that one went whoosh. My brain flushed it for some reason.
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Atheno - 18 May 2009 14:10 GMT >>>>>>>>>>> No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight >>>>>>>>>>> permanently. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Ok, that one went whoosh. My brain flushed it for some reason. I will not tell anyone, I am not a stool pigeon
Omelet - 18 May 2009 14:23 GMT > >>>>>>>>>>> No disagreement, you don't have to exercise to lose weight > >>>>>>>>>>> permanently. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > I will not tell anyone, I am not a stool pigeon My debt to you will eventually become arrears.
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Atheno - 17 May 2009 22:19 GMT On Sun, 17 May 2009 15:17:48 -0500, Omelet wrote
>>> Prunes... >> >> Go right ahead. > > Nice pun. <g> No doubt from the Gospel of John.
In a KIng's castle, it would be a Royal flush.
Let's all sing:
Loo loo loo, I've got some apples Loo loo loo, you've got some too Loo loo loo, let's get together I know what we can do, loo loo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1dDskKJZnM
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