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No time to go soft on obesity-plagued Scots
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Angus - 01 Jun 2009 11:49 GMT http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.2511436.0.no_time_to_g o_soft_on_obesityplagued_scots.php
No time to go soft on obesity-plagued Scots Joanna Blythman
A POSTER CAN be found on the walls of GPs' waiting rooms showing a line-up of bottoms, in all shapes and sizes, with the words: "Your doctors have seen it all before." It is aimed at people who worry about presenting themselves for medical treatment because they fear that their particular ailment or condition makes them perfect subjects for Channel 4's voyeuristic freak show Embarrassing Bodies.
We can all relate to this. Who hasn't had something on a part of their anatomy that they would rather not expose to strangers, professional or otherwise? Who hasn't felt mild anxiety, around this time of year, at the prospect of finding a swimming costume for the holidays? Let's face it, there are few experiences less calculated to make you feel good about yourself than the annual, post-winter try-on session with swim gear. And we can all swap gory stories about suppurating cysts and disintegrating toenails.
But if you are fat, very fat indeed, and the prospect of baring all, or bits of yourself, to a doctor is so unpalatable that you avoid it like root canal treatment with the dentist, then you might be a victim of "obesity bias".
Last week, Dr Pat Croskerry, professor of emergency medicine at Dalhousie University in Canada, was in Edinburgh to warn medics that obese people may be avoiding or delaying asking for potentially life-saving stomach surgery because they fear the judgmental attitudes and disapproval of doctors. His findings chime with other studies which have shown that obese people postpone important medical checks, such as cervical screening or blood-pressure testing, because they don't relish being given a dressing down about their weight.
It certainly can't be very comfortable, can it? There you are, seeking treatment for your painful knees, your breathing difficulties, your insomnia or your gout, and you know that you are in for a sanctimonious pep talk from your GP, who will tell you to "lose some weight and come back and see me" then send you out the door with some useless NHS diet sheet.
But what else are they meant to do? Just because we are the second-fattest country on the planet, that doesn't mean that fat people have to be mollycoddled and sheltered from a truth that they don't want to hear. Sometimes, you have to be cruel to be kind. Facts are facts. If you are life-threateningly overweight, you can't expect responsible professionals to spare your blushes and re-invent reality to ignore the humungous weight of scientific evidence that shows that being fat is seriously bad for your health.
There is a school of thought in medical circles that instead of being viewed as the last resort, radical, invasive operations like gastric-band surgery should be performed more readily, expanded if you like, to fit the growing demand. They argue that this would cut deaths from heart disease, diet-related cancer, stroke and the like, so saving the health service money in the long term.
Apparently, there are 24,000 severely obese Scots who might, arguably, benefit from such surgery, but only around 300 have such operations each year - just half of them on the NHS. Medics who favour magic-bullet solutions to obesity see this low uptake as yet another symptom of a health system, and a society, that draws a queasy, moralistic distinction between the deserving and undeserving sick when allocating NHS resources.
There is another possibility, though. Maybe it sticks in the throat of thinking doctors to sign up patients for drastic stomach-constriction surgery or abdominal reshaping with staples when a much more benign alternative is to ask them to change their eating and living habits.
"Have you any idea how hard it is to lose weight when you are immensely fat?" I hear you say. I'll admit, I can only imagine and sympathise. But surely there is a limit to how much we allow our world to be reshaped and scaled up to accommodate our ballooning phenotype? We now live in the era of militant fatties; those people who think that the problem isn't obesity as such, just thin/normal people's attitudes towards it. This supersize movement demands bigger car, bus, cinema and plane seats. It wants clothes in ever-expanding sizes. It lambasts fashion retailers for failing to recalibrate their ranges so that obese sizes, instead of being labelled XXXL, are normalised. The bigger people become, the more that state is presented as "normal".
Supersizists castigate fashion designers for encouraging the cult of thinness, conveniently ignoring the fact that anorexia and bulimia are Lilliputian concerns monumentally overshadowed by the burgeoning problem of obesity.
Let's be honest here. Our country's ballooning weight is a shocker and there is no way we should be accepting of it or view it as inevitable. All but a few poor souls have it in their power to control their weight and in the long run, societal disapproval may prove more effective in controlling fatness than any calorie-controlled diet.
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax - 01 Jun 2009 12:23 GMT > http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.2511436.0.no_time_to_g > o_soft_on_obesityplagued_scots.php [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > the long run, societal disapproval may prove more effective in controlling > fatness than any calorie-controlled diet. I decided I was over weight and lost 15kg over 4 months. The trick was to cut my calorie intake by 30%, and keep it there. After a week or two the body gets used to it and you don't feel hungry.
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Maria - 01 Jun 2009 13:25 GMT >> http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.2511436.0.no_time_to_g >> [quoted text clipped - 113 lines] > The trick was to cut my calorie intake by 30%, and keep it there. After > a week or two the body gets used to it and you don't feel hungry. I cut my calorie intake, got more and more tired, and gained weight.
Evelyn - 01 Jun 2009 13:47 GMT >>> http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.2511436.0.no_time_to_g >>> o_soft_on_obesityplagued_scots.php [quoted text clipped - 121 lines] > > I cut my calorie intake, got more and more tired, and gained weight. That happened to me too. I was lowering caloric intake yet eating the wrong foods.... like whole grains etc. Consider that you may be borderline diabetic. Instead try to cut CARB intake.... watch and see, you will feel more energetic and lose weight. It can't hurt and can only help to eat like a diabetic (even if you haven't been diagnosed as one) by lowering carbohydrate intake.
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Maria - 01 Jun 2009 13:57 GMT >>>> http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.2511436.0.no_time_to_g >>>> [quoted text clipped - 130 lines] > That happened to me too. I was lowering caloric intake yet eating the > wrong foods.... like whole grains etc. I think it's a common problem for women - the doc explained...women engineered to have babies...weight loss is indication of famine situation...woman in famine situation metabolism changes to store more fat for potential pregnancy...which might explain why men can seem to just lose weight by eating less :)
> Consider that you may be > borderline diabetic. Instead try to cut CARB intake.... watch and see, > you will feel more energetic and lose weight. It can't hurt and can > only help to eat like a diabetic (even if you haven't been diagnosed as > one) by lowering carbohydrate intake. I have tried it and found it hard to stick to - I have bread cravings etc (I don't eat sweets or puddings). I will try again soon - I have been weening myself off the bread by using yeast-free wraps instead.
Doug Freyburger - 01 Jun 2009 16:07 GMT > I have tried it and found it hard to stick to - I have bread cravings > etc (I don't eat sweets or puddings). I will try again soon - I have > been weening myself off the bread by using yeast-free wraps instead. Cravings are a part of a pattern of addictive behavior. If there is a specific food you're eating that triggers cravings, the only way you'll ever get out of the craving loop is to decide that particular food is a poison to you personally and avoid it from there on.
For an alcoholic to drop alcohol forever, they know that falling off the wagon can kill them. It increases the motivation. For a specific-food-alohic, we learn that falling off the wagon by eating that specific food sets us on a regain path that leads us all the way back to our top weight. It doesn't kill us though it does lead to long term medical issues. The motivation isn't as clear.
What's worse is the confusion about "food addiction" and the idea that you can't live without food. While that's true in general it isn't true about any one type of food in particular. If you get cravings from bread then it's either of two most likely issues -
1) Insulin spike from the high starch content of the bread. If this is true then eating similar quantites of any type of starchy food will trigger the same cravings. Weigh the amount of bread that triggers the cravings, then have that much potato. If it gives the same cravings, double check with some other starchy food like the same starch amount of white rice. If it also gives cravings then you know you need to avoid foods above some level of starch. Time to eat more root veggies like carrots, turnips, swedes/rutabagas and so on and less grains and spuds.
2) Intolerance reaction to wheat in specific or to gluten in general. Do the weighing experiment above. If the potatoes do not trigger cravings also try it with rice or corn/maize. If neither of those triggers cravings then it is something specific to the grain in the bread. Start trying other grain products - Most pasta is from wheat so it should also trigger cravings (sauces are intended to smooth out the insulin from starch but they don't stop cravings from intolerances). Rice or corn/maize are gluten free grains. The gluten bearing grains in order of amount are wheat, rye, barley, oats so they next step is to find German/Danish bread that's 100% rye and see how you react.
When I followed this process I discovered my own reaction is very specific to wheat. I get cravings from wheat, spelt (a nearly wild wheat relative common in Italy) and Kamut (an ancient domesticated wheat variety from Egypt). I don't get cravings from rye so I can eat the German/Danish heavy bread, or barley so I can handle good beers that aren't wheat beers, or oats so I can have oat porridge at breakfast.
You're a Scot? How about this for an attitude adjustment about wheat - Wheat's a sothron conspiracy to weaken the north. Grown in the south, fed to the northerners to make us more hungry. Real northerners eat oats, or barley (Eire, UK south of Scotland), buckwheat or corn (US). Or we just feed the grain to the cattle and have beef. Beef's low carb don't ya know. Better way to have grain anyways. Give it to the critters evolved to eat it then we eat them. Or right, northerners - I mean the reindeer not the cattle ... ;^)
Evelyn - 01 Jun 2009 18:43 GMT >>>>> http://www.sundayherald.com/oped/opinion/display.var.2511436.0.no_time_to_g >>>>> o_soft_on_obesityplagued_scots.php [quoted text clipped - 152 lines] > (I don't eat sweets or puddings). I will try again soon - I have been > weening myself off the bread by using yeast-free wraps instead. Bread cravings are a well known symptom of the metabolic disorder that leads to diabetes.
Try eating no bread for breakfast one morning, or just a small piece, and see how you are less hungry by lunch. Then try eating a big salad for lunch with everything in it, excepting croutons or other bread, and see how you snack less all day.
Even if you don't give up the carbohydrates, limit them and count the grams of carbs per day. I am not saying to go carb free, but limit them severely.
About the wraps, the problem isn't the yeast, it is the carbohydrates. Our bodies sometimes just don't handle them well anymore. You are not alone in that, I assure you.
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Kaz Kylheku - 02 Jun 2009 00:01 GMT > "Maria" <oldwoman@theshoe.ac.uk> wrote in message >>> I decided I was over weight and lost 15kg over 4 months. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > That happened to me too. I was lowering caloric intake yet eating the > wrong foods.... like whole grains etc. Consider that you may be There are billions of thin people in the world. Some eat carby diets, some more fatty ones. Some more protein, some less.
In Japan, people eat rice for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Yet, fat people are rare. Nearly everyone you encounter in that country is thin.
In my travels there, I saw only a handful of chubby people, and nobody who was fat enough to be /ugly/ because of it, like what we see in America frequently.
Sure, there are Sumo wrestlers, but they are freaks by choice, and they are not a large percentage of the population. Sumo wrestlers maintain their size by stuffing themselves with large meals several times a day. They eat the same Japanese food as millions of their thin countrymen, like nabe (hotpot). Only, a lot more of it.
> borderline diabetic. Instead try to cut CARB intake.... watch and see, you > will feel more energetic and lose weight.
> It can't hurt and can only help > to eat like a diabetic (even if you haven't been diagnosed as one) by > lowering carbohydrate intake. If you eat the proper quantity of food, the macronutrient distribution doesn't matter, except for some constraints: you need enough protein, and a tiny amount of essential fat. How you adjust your diet around these constraints is up to you.
There is no way you could eat possibly eat enough carbs for carbs to be a problem, if you are not consuming excess calories, if enough of your calories come from protein, and if you don't eat all your daily food in one sitting.
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