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Looking for Atkins Info...
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bmcky - 16 Feb 2004 15:18 GMT Hi -
First the stats:
57 yr old w/male 5 feet 6 inches tall and about 225 lbs. I'm not allergic to food or drugs, but am a moderate to severe asthmatic. Currently the asthma is controlled (more or less) with a timed-release inhaler (Advair)
As the weather moderates here in Boston, I want to start walking outside and begin a diet. I'm looking for information on the Atkins program and I thought there'd be some kind of Atkins franchises, similar to Jenny Craig's or Weight-Watcher's, but haven't been able to find any here.
I'm guessing the place to start then, is to buy a couple of Atkins books and see what's involved in the program. What I'd really like though, is an organized, specific approach to it, including meal plans. Anyone have any suggestions for this, or maybe some websites that do that? Really appreciate any pointers in getting this started, and my thanks in advance.
bmcky
Boston, MA
skiur - 16 Feb 2004 15:33 GMT bmcky,
From the Atkin's website:
http://atkins.com/shop/products/eDiets.html
I suggest that you still pick up a book for your own edification.
There is also alt.support.diet.low-carb. Lots of daily posts on that ng.
Julie
> Hi - > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Boston, MA Ignoramus17304 - 16 Feb 2004 15:52 GMT > 57 yr old w/male 5 feet 6 inches tall and about 225 lbs. I'm not > allergic to food or drugs, but am a moderate to severe asthmatic. > Currently the asthma is controlled (more or less) with a timed-release > inhaler (Advair) Sorry to hear about the asthma.
> As the weather moderates here in Boston, I want to start walking > outside and begin a diet. Walking can be done in pretty much any weather. I sometimes walk in -5 degree weather in snow, it is great exercise.
> I'm looking for information on the Atkins program and I thought > there'd be some kind of Atkins franchises, similar to Jenny Craig's > or Weight-Watcher's, but haven't been able to find any here. There are not any atkins franchises. All you need to do is, 1) buy the atkins book at walmart 2) follow it to the letter and 3) [very important] stay away from all low carb labeled snack foods, ice creams etc. Eat only real food, according to the book.
Also, check out alt.support.diet.low-carb.
> I'm guessing the place to start then, is to buy a couple of Atkins > books and see what's involved in the program. Buy one book, Atkins, Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution.
> What I'd really like though, is an organized, specific approach to > it, including meal plans. Anyone have any suggestions for this, or > maybe some websites that do that? Really appreciate any pointers in > getting this started, and my thanks in advance. It is all in the book, the book is quite good and it works for most people, _if you do not eat any fake low carb labeled junk food and snack food_.
I do not follow atkins myself.
i 223/173/180
Patricia Heil - 16 Feb 2004 21:16 GMT I have asthma too. I have found T'ai Chi and Tae Bo great ways to gain strength and improve my aerobic conditioning so that I can walk in the warmer weather. I was using Singulair until about 9 months ago, and since then I haven't taken a pill or used my inhaler once. Hopefully you'll be less drug dependent once you get in better aerobic shape.
With the exercise, what you need is a wide variety of low-fat high-fiber food. You won't get the variety with Jenny Craig, so I would recommend Weight Watcher's because they don't require you to buy pre-packaged food. That means it's going to be cheaper because what you will do is cook from scratch to get the variety. Start with a food diary and then look through it for high fat foods; replace them with high fiber food like steamed veggies or veggies stir-fried in no more than 1 tablespoon of healthy olive, canola, or sesame oil per serving. This should suit the Weight Watcher's plan but tell me if I'm wrong because I've never been on it. This is just what my sister the Registered Dietitian has recommended.
> Hi - > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Boston, MA bmcky - 29 Feb 2004 08:41 GMT >I have asthma too. I have found T'ai Chi and Tae Bo great >ways to gain strength and improve my aerobic conditioning [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >> >> Boston, MA Thanks to everyone for the replies. I've got the original, updated Atkins book and a companion meal book, which I'm going through now. I was diagnosed with moderate to severe asthma, aggravated by the colder temps we experienced. Truthfully its hard to tell what my condition is really, since all this weight (about 70 lbs or so) is masking things. Walking outside wasn't an option for me since Dec, but that's changing now, and something I'm eager to start along with Atkins. I'm also looking forward to dropping some of the meds as I get back where I belong. Thanks again for that info.
bmcky
Boston, MA
Doug Freyburger - 01 Mar 2004 01:55 GMT bmcky:
> I'm not allergic to food or drugs That you know about. The cool thing about Atkins is it is a process to teach you food allergies you were previously unaware of, or that you didn't know were caused by food.
> but am a moderate to severe asthmatic. Bingo. Wanna bet it's actually an allergy to a food you eat daily that you've never in your entire life gone without?
> I'm looking for information on the Atkins program Doctor Atkins New Diet Revolution, editions 1993, 1999 or 2002. *The* book.
> and I thought there'd be some kind of Atkins franchises, > similar to Jenny Craig's or Weight-Watcher's, but haven't been able > to find any here. Because there aren't any. It doesn't work that way.
> I'm guessing the place to start then, is to buy a couple of Atkins > books and see what's involved in the program. That one book will do.
> What I'd really like > though, is an organized, specific approach to it, including meal > plans. Atkins is a process not a menu. Meal plans lead to a one size fits all approach. Atkins is a fully customized process. Follow it and it leads each person to a different place. Process not menu.
Also www.atkins.com, but since the good doctor died they've progressively moved into selling junk food. They make tremendous profits selling junk food, so they are extremly biased in favor of junk.
Gloria - 02 Mar 2004 13:51 GMT I do not follow Atkins per say but I kind of do. Not makng sense of me? Well < I mean that I tend to 'need' to keep myself LC or I binge more. Carbs cause me to want more food. I was eating carbs for the last few days and BINGO!! I wanted more,more, more! So I'm trying to once again move away from the carbs. This really does help me to eat better plus lose better:))
glo
bmcky - 02 Mar 2004 14:36 GMT >I do not follow Atkins per say but I kind of do. Not makng sense of me? >Well < I mean that I tend to 'need' to keep myself LC or I binge more. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >glo
Ok, the more I look/read the more I want to drop carbs. What was it like during the first week - 10 days? I'm certain I've got multiple (carb, caffeine, sugar, etc.) addictions since I'm well aware of the urges for some foods over others.
bmcky
Boston, MA
Ignoramus29721 - 02 Mar 2004 15:08 GMT >>I do not follow Atkins per say but I kind of do. Not makng sense of me? >>Well < I mean that I tend to 'need' to keep myself LC or I binge more. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > (carb, caffeine, sugar, etc.) addictions since I'm well aware of the > urges for some foods over others. Can you drop some carbs and not drop other carbs?
I have not yet heard about anyone binging on hot oat bran cereal. (although I do binge on tomatoes, but that's kind of safe because they have little calories).
Drop the ones that make trouble, eat a bit less of other carbs, and chances are your eating will be more controllable.
i
May - 03 Mar 2004 10:07 GMT >Can you drop some carbs and not drop other carbs? > >I have not yet heard about anyone binging on hot oat bran cereal. Gotta say..before I went LC one of my favorite binges was to cook half a box, or more..a 3 quart pot almost full.. of oat bran, and eat it up with cream and sugar. On a really bad day I sometimes did this twice!! I had done the same thing over the years with cream of rice or cream of wheat, and oatmeal. Oat bran was one of the things suggested to me to provide fiber for the diverticulosis I was diagnosed with in 2002. Unfortunately I found out right away eating a one serving amount in my case wasn't gonna happen. I take psyllium now and eat more green vegetables for the fiber and hot cereals don't enter my home.
Now you've heard of it ;->
May "Not all who wander are lost" -J.R.R. Tolkien
Jayjay - 02 Mar 2004 15:19 GMT >Ok, the more I look/read the more I want to drop carbs. What was it >like during the first week - 10 days? I'm certain I've got multiple [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Boston, MA Chiming in a bit late here, but I just read your original post and now this one.
You asked for places to go to learn about Atkins. The first key place to go is to the library or book store and get the New Diet Revolution. Read it, learn it, it gives you everything you need to know about how to tackle the diet. But, read it cover to cover! Don't just read the chapter on induction. You need to read and understand the whole thing.
2. If you want meal plans, the only place I know of that offers anything close to that is e-diets. They now offer the atkins approach. But seriously, you don't need to spend that money wastelessly. You can get all you need to know from the atkins book and other online resources.
3. Along with this newsgroup, I'd suggest you join alt.support.diet.low-carb That is a group that is dedicated to the various low carb ways of eating out there.
One key thing to learn from low carb. That initial weight loss of 10lbs in a few weeks is usually just a "honeymoon" period and is mostly just excess water weight that your body is retaining from the carbs stored in your body.
janice - 02 Mar 2004 17:52 GMT >>I do not follow Atkins per say but I kind of do. Not makng sense of me? >>Well < I mean that I tend to 'need' to keep myself LC or I binge more. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >bmcky It's interesting - I find I binge most on what I'm not allowed to have. When I did the Slimming World programme, although in many ways it was a great programme and I was allowed unlimited pasta etc., I discovered I built up a craving for sweet things and when I finally caved in I went wild on chocolate bars, etc., which is quite unusual for me. Now I'm back to calorie counting, and have my nutrigrain bars for breakfast most days, I don't feel the lack of sugar nearly so much.
janice 233/177/133
Merryl - 02 Mar 2004 23:24 GMT
> Ok, the more I look/read the more I want to drop carbs. What was it > like during the first week - 10 days? I'm certain I've got multiple [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Boston, MA I think that's a good choice. I'm on day 8 today, and I can tell you that it takes a little willpower, but not a vast amount. When I smell that sugar, I do think "mmm, that would taste good"; but also think "do I really need to abuse my insulin metabolism with that right now?"
I'm not sure how much I've lost (since I didn't own a scale when I started), but I think it's about 6 lbs. (I have well over 100lbs to lose, so that isn't unusual.) After the 2nd day, I began to notice that I had more energy, and felt more calm and in control of my life in general. Stuff that seemed like too much trouble (like cutting up veggies) didn't seem so annoying.
When I de-carbed my kitchen, I was up and down on a stepstool and moving about for nearly a solid hour without breaks. I worked up quite a sweat, but didn't get that achy, drained feeling that an activity like that used to give me. I even found the energy to find out the number of the local food pantry and give 'em a call, instead of putting something like that off as I was wont to do.
I have some mild allergy-induced asthma, but I haven't noticed any change in that. I don't regularly take a medication for it. I did feel the need to use my albuterol inhaler, but it may be that moving about all this stuff kicked up dust and set me off.
I *am* looking forward to next week, when I'll be able to add some fruit and hi-fiber grains. I found a good-tasting high fiber whole-grain cereal at Trader Joe's that I'll be happy to add to my diet.
I try to think about what I *can* eat rather than what I can't. One trick I used on the first day: when I thought I couldn't stand it if I didn't have some candy, I ate a big chunk of CREAM CHEESE! It was such a giggle to be able to do that, I managed to survive until the craving passed.
I'm not having carb cravings now, well, at least not when I'm not too hungry. Before I left for shopping on Saturday, I found myself thinking "Well, what could I eat at McDonald's"... so I sat myself RIGHT DOWN and ate some cheese before I left the house. I'm avoiding all carbs but veggies, though, and being very strict for these first 2 weeks. I really want to get my insulin response under control.
Good luck... and I'll see you on the streets of Boston!
Gloria - 03 Mar 2004 00:28 GMT Jello is a GREAT FIX for me!! I feel so good when I eat jello after I crave sweets. Jello really helps me to stay with my program MOST of the time!!
I guess that being the "compulsive OVER EATER" is NOT an easy road at all, AT LEAST NOT FOR ME!!! I TRY and I WORK at this EACH & EVERY DAY:))
glo
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