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bmcky - 16 Feb 2004 15:18 GMT
Hi -

    First the stats:

57 yr old w/male 5 feet 6 inches tall and  about 225 lbs.  I'm not
allergic to food or drugs, but am a moderate to severe asthmatic.
Currently the asthma is controlled (more or less) with a timed-release
inhaler (Advair)

As the weather moderates here in Boston, I want to start walking
outside and begin a diet.   I'm looking for information on the Atkins
program and I thought there'd be some kind of Atkins franchises,
similar to Jenny Craig's or Weight-Watcher's,  but haven't been able
to find any here.  

I'm guessing the place to start then, is to buy a couple of Atkins
books and see what's involved in the program.  What I'd really like
though, is an organized, specific approach to it, including meal
plans.  Anyone have any suggestions for this, or maybe some websites
that do that?   Really appreciate any pointers in getting this
started, and my thanks in advance.

bmcky

Boston, MA
skiur - 16 Feb 2004 15:33 GMT
bmcky,

From the Atkin's website:

http://atkins.com/shop/products/eDiets.html

I suggest that you still pick up a book for your own edification.

There is also alt.support.diet.low-carb.  Lots of daily posts on that ng.

Julie

> Hi -
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> Boston, MA
Ignoramus17304 - 16 Feb 2004 15:52 GMT
> 57 yr old w/male 5 feet 6 inches tall and  about 225 lbs.  I'm not
> allergic to food or drugs, but am a moderate to severe asthmatic.
> Currently the asthma is controlled (more or less) with a timed-release
> inhaler (Advair)

Sorry to hear about the asthma.

> As the weather moderates here in Boston, I want to start walking
> outside and begin a diet.

Walking can be done in pretty much any weather. I sometimes walk in -5
degree weather in snow, it is great exercise.

> I'm looking for information on the Atkins program and I thought
> there'd be some kind of Atkins franchises, similar to Jenny Craig's
> or Weight-Watcher's, but haven't been able to find any here.

There are not any atkins franchises. All you need to do is, 1) buy the
atkins book at walmart 2) follow it to the letter and 3) [very
important] stay away from all low carb labeled snack foods, ice creams
etc. Eat only real food, according to the book.

Also, check out alt.support.diet.low-carb.

> I'm guessing the place to start then, is to buy a couple of Atkins
> books and see what's involved in the program.

Buy one book, Atkins, Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution.

> What I'd really like though, is an organized, specific approach to
> it, including meal plans.  Anyone have any suggestions for this, or
> maybe some websites that do that?  Really appreciate any pointers in
> getting this started, and my thanks in advance.

It is all in the book, the book is quite good and it works for most
people, _if you do not eat any fake low carb labeled junk food and
snack food_.

I do not follow atkins myself.

i
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Patricia Heil - 16 Feb 2004 21:16 GMT
I have asthma too.  I have found T'ai Chi and Tae Bo great
ways to gain strength and improve my aerobic conditioning
so that I can walk in the warmer weather.  I was using
Singulair until about 9 months ago, and since then I haven't
taken a pill or used my inhaler once.  Hopefully you'll be
less drug dependent once you get in better aerobic shape.

With the exercise, what you need is a wide variety of low-fat
high-fiber food.  You won't get the variety with Jenny Craig,
so I would recommend Weight Watcher's because they don't
require you to buy pre-packaged food.  That means it's going
to be cheaper because what you will do is cook from scratch
to get the variety.  Start with a food diary and then look
through it for high fat foods; replace them with high fiber
food like steamed veggies or veggies stir-fried in no more than
1 tablespoon of healthy olive, canola, or sesame oil per serving.
This should suit the Weight Watcher's plan but tell me if I'm
wrong because I've never been on it.  This is just what my
sister the Registered Dietitian has recommended.

> Hi -
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> Boston, MA
bmcky - 29 Feb 2004 08:41 GMT
>I have asthma too.  I have found T'ai Chi and Tae Bo great
>ways to gain strength and improve my aerobic conditioning
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>> Boston, MA

Thanks to everyone for the replies.  I've got the original, updated
Atkins book and a companion meal book, which I'm going through now.  I
was diagnosed with moderate to severe asthma, aggravated by the colder
temps we experienced.  Truthfully its hard to tell what my condition
is really, since all this weight (about 70 lbs or so) is masking
things.  Walking outside wasn't an option for me since Dec, but that's
changing now, and something I'm eager to start along with Atkins.
I'm also looking forward to dropping some of the meds as I get back
where I belong.  Thanks again for that info.

bmcky

Boston, MA
Doug Freyburger - 01 Mar 2004 01:55 GMT
bmcky:

> I'm not allergic to food or drugs

That you know about.  The cool thing about Atkins is it is a process
to teach you food allergies you were previously unaware of, or that
you didn't know were caused by food.

> but am a moderate to severe asthmatic.

Bingo.  Wanna bet it's actually an allergy to a food you eat daily
that you've never in your entire life gone without?

> I'm looking for information on the Atkins program

Doctor Atkins New Diet Revolution, editions 1993, 1999 or 2002.
*The* book.

> and I thought there'd be some kind of Atkins franchises,
> similar to Jenny Craig's or Weight-Watcher's,  but haven't been able
> to find any here.  

Because there aren't any.  It doesn't work that way.

> I'm guessing the place to start then, is to buy a couple of Atkins
> books and see what's involved in the program.

That one book will do.

> What I'd really like
> though, is an organized, specific approach to it, including meal
> plans.

Atkins is a process not a menu.  Meal plans lead to a one size fits
all approach.  Atkins is a fully customized process.  Follow it and
it leads each person to a different place.  Process not menu.

Also www.atkins.com, but since the good doctor died they've progressively
moved into selling junk food.  They make tremendous profits selling
junk food, so they are extremly biased in favor of junk.
Gloria - 02 Mar 2004 13:51 GMT
I do not follow Atkins per say but I kind of do. Not makng sense of me?
Well < I mean that I tend to 'need' to keep myself LC or I binge more.
Carbs cause me to want more food. I was eating carbs for the last few
days and BINGO!! I wanted more,more, more! So I'm trying to once again
move away from the carbs. This really does help me to eat better plus
lose better:))

glo
bmcky - 02 Mar 2004 14:36 GMT
>I do not follow Atkins per say but I kind of do. Not makng sense of me?
>Well < I mean that I tend to 'need' to keep myself LC or I binge more.
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>glo
                       

Ok, the more I look/read the more I want to drop carbs.  What was it
like during the first week - 10 days?  I'm certain I've got multiple
(carb, caffeine, sugar, etc.) addictions since I'm well aware of the
urges for some foods over others.

bmcky

Boston, MA
Ignoramus29721 - 02 Mar 2004 15:08 GMT
>>I do not follow Atkins per say but I kind of do. Not makng sense of me?
>>Well < I mean that I tend to 'need' to keep myself LC or I binge more.
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> (carb, caffeine, sugar, etc.) addictions since I'm well aware of the
> urges for some foods over others.

Can you drop some carbs and not drop other carbs?

I have not yet heard about anyone binging on hot oat bran cereal.
(although I do binge on tomatoes, but that's kind of safe because they
have little calories).

Drop the ones that make trouble, eat a bit less of other carbs, and
chances are your eating will be more controllable.

i
May - 03 Mar 2004 10:07 GMT
>Can you drop some carbs and not drop other carbs?
>
>I have not yet heard about anyone binging on hot oat bran cereal.

Gotta say..before I went LC one of my favorite binges was to cook half
a box, or more..a 3 quart pot almost full.. of oat bran, and eat it up
with cream and sugar. On a really bad day I sometimes did this twice!!
I had done the same thing over the years with cream of rice or cream
of wheat, and oatmeal.  Oat bran was one of the things suggested to me
to provide fiber for the diverticulosis I was diagnosed with in 2002.
Unfortunately I found out right away eating a one serving amount in my
case wasn't gonna happen. I take psyllium now and eat more green
vegetables for the fiber and hot cereals don't enter my home.

Now you've heard of it ;->

May
"Not all who wander are lost"                                                                                                                    
   
                           -J.R.R. Tolkien
Jayjay - 02 Mar 2004 15:19 GMT
>Ok, the more I look/read the more I want to drop carbs.  What was it
>like during the first week - 10 days?  I'm certain I've got multiple
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>Boston, MA

Chiming in a bit late here, but I just read your original post and now
this one.

You asked for places to go to learn about Atkins.    The first key
place to go is to the library or book store and get the New Diet
Revolution.   Read it, learn it, it gives you everything you need to
know about how to tackle the diet.   But, read it cover to cover!
Don't just read the chapter on induction.  You need to read and
understand the whole thing.

2.  If you want meal plans, the only place I know of that offers
anything close to that is e-diets.  They now offer the atkins
approach.   But seriously, you don't need to spend that money
wastelessly.   You can get all you need to know from the atkins book
and other online resources.

3.  Along with this newsgroup, I'd suggest you join
alt.support.diet.low-carb   That is a group that is dedicated to the
various low carb ways of eating out there.  

One key thing to learn from low carb.  That initial weight loss of
10lbs in a few weeks is usually just a "honeymoon" period and is
mostly just excess water weight that your body is retaining from the
carbs stored in your body.
janice - 02 Mar 2004 17:52 GMT
>>I do not follow Atkins per say but I kind of do. Not makng sense of me?
>>Well < I mean that I tend to 'need' to keep myself LC or I binge more.
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>bmcky

It's interesting - I find I binge most on what I'm not allowed to
have.  When I did the Slimming World programme, although in many ways
it was a great programme and I was allowed unlimited pasta etc., I
discovered I built up a craving for sweet things and when I finally
caved in I went wild on chocolate bars, etc., which is quite unusual
for me.  Now I'm back to calorie counting, and have my nutrigrain bars
for breakfast most days, I don't feel the lack of sugar nearly so
much.

janice
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Merryl - 02 Mar 2004 23:24 GMT
                   

> Ok, the more I look/read the more I want to drop carbs.  What was it
> like during the first week - 10 days?  I'm certain I've got multiple
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>
> Boston, MA

I think that's a good choice.  I'm on day 8 today, and I can tell you
that it takes a little willpower, but not a vast amount.  When I smell
that sugar, I do think "mmm, that would taste good"; but also think
"do I really need to abuse my insulin metabolism with that right now?"

I'm not sure how much I've lost (since I didn't own a scale when I
started), but I think it's about 6 lbs.  (I have well over 100lbs to
lose, so that isn't unusual.)  After the 2nd day, I began to notice
that I had more energy, and felt more calm and in control of my life
in general.  Stuff that seemed like too much trouble (like cutting up
veggies) didn't seem so annoying.

When I de-carbed my kitchen, I was up and down on a stepstool and
moving about for nearly a solid hour without breaks.  I worked up
quite a sweat, but didn't get that achy, drained feeling that an
activity like that used to give me.  I even found the energy to find
out the number of the local food pantry and give 'em a call, instead
of putting something like that off as I was wont to do.

I have some mild allergy-induced asthma, but I haven't noticed any
change in that.  I don't regularly take a medication for it.  I did
feel the need to use my albuterol inhaler, but it may be that moving
about all this stuff kicked up dust and set me off.

I *am* looking forward to next week, when I'll be able to add some
fruit and hi-fiber grains.  I found a good-tasting high fiber
whole-grain cereal at Trader Joe's that I'll be happy to add to my
diet.

I try to think about what I *can* eat rather than what I can't.  One
trick I used on the first day: when I thought I couldn't stand it if I
didn't have some candy, I ate a big chunk of CREAM CHEESE!  It was
such a giggle to be able to do that, I managed to survive until the
craving passed.

I'm not having carb cravings now, well, at least not when I'm not too
hungry. Before I left for shopping on Saturday, I found myself
thinking "Well, what could I eat at McDonald's"... so I sat myself
RIGHT DOWN and ate some cheese before I left the house.  I'm avoiding
all carbs but veggies, though, and being very strict for these first 2
weeks.  I really want to get my insulin response under control.

Good luck... and I'll see you on the streets of Boston!
Gloria - 03 Mar 2004 00:28 GMT
Jello is a GREAT FIX for me!! I feel so good when I eat jello after I
crave sweets. Jello really helps me to stay with my program MOST of the
time!!

I guess that being the "compulsive OVER EATER" is NOT an easy road at
all, AT LEAST NOT FOR ME!!! I TRY and I WORK at this EACH & EVERY DAY:))

glo
 
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