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Kay H. - 27 Feb 2004 14:23 GMT
Hi all,

I've been lurking for a little while and have appreciated the good
common-sense tips and shared stories. Here's a question that I haven't seen,
though: how does one eat healthfully while needing to work the night shift?
In my case, it's 12 hours, from 7 pm to 7:30 am. Changing shifts isn't an
option. I'm an RN and know a fair bit amount nutrition. I'm following a
fairly faithful low-glycemic eating plan. I'm not diabetic but it does run
in my family. So the food that I eat is healthy, I've been losing weight,
but as far as when to eat breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks, I'm confused.
<g>

It's not so hard on the nights I work but on my nights off, well, that's
where it gets tricky. Obviously I don't want to continue to sleep all day
and stay up all night. So there's a good amount of irregular hours and sleep
in bursts rather than all the way through to 6 or 7 hours. Do I just eat
something every 4 hours or so while I'm awake?

I plan to remain a member of this ng for the duration. I really like the
motivation and friendliness I've seen.

Thanks,

Kay
Jayjay - 27 Feb 2004 15:03 GMT
>Hi all,
>
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>but as far as when to eat breakfast, lunch, dinner and snacks, I'm confused.
><g>

Easy,   Eat when hungry.   Eat what you feel like eating.   :-)

ok, I know - crappy answer.  

What sort of woe are you following?   No matter what it is, it really
boils down to calories in vs. calories out.   So, how much your body
uses in a day to keep up with your life, minus how much you consumed
will tell you whether you will lose, gain or maintain.

For me, I base my woe on calories (and limiting carbs and fat).   To
lose weight, I eat 1200 cals per day.   I break that up into 3 "meals"
and 3 "snacks."    A snack is about 100 cals.  So, 3 meals at 300 cals
each.   3 snacks at 100 cals each.  

A meal:
tuna melt on wheat muffin.
oatmeal and protein
veggie/meat/cheese omlette
Protein shake
salad w/ grilled meat or cottage cheese

Basically a meal will contain about 150 cals in protein source,  100
cals in carbs, leaving 50 cals for *misc*  (usually veggies or fat or
something).

Snacks:
pudding
sugarfree icecream
fruit
veggies
chips/junk
chocolate.

Basically I vary my snacks.   Without my choclate, I get grumpy.  ;)
so I'll have one snack a day being candy of some sort.   then the
other snacks are either healthy choices like fruit or veggies or
yogurt.  

Liquid consumption, I try to keep it all calorie free.

>It's not so hard on the nights I work but on my nights off, well, that's
>where it gets tricky. Obviously I don't want to continue to sleep all day
>and stay up all night. So there's a good amount of irregular hours and sleep
>in bursts rather than all the way through to 6 or 7 hours. Do I just eat
>something every 4 hours or so while I'm awake?

If you figure out what your eating plan is like, you can adjust it to
fit your odd sleep schedule.    

I have to say though, shift work isn't much different than non shift
work.    Just bassackwards.   :)

For example, I work 8-5.   (more like 7:30 am - 8pm many days).
My sleep during the week is 11pm -6am.    

Weekends though, we end up going out.   I end up sleeping more like
1am to 6am, then I'll end up napping during the day sometime.   So, my
weekend sleep schedule gets mixed up too.
ty - 29 Feb 2004 14:57 GMT
Hello
I've been on the night shift for five years and I haven't found a good plan
yet!! Working nights is tricky. Especially when you have a few nights on, a
couple nights off, etc.
tell me if you find something that works:)
> Hi all,
>
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>
> Kay
Kay H. - 01 Mar 2004 15:20 GMT
> Hello
> I've been on the night shift for five years and I haven't found a good plan
> yet!! Working nights is tricky. Especially when you have a few nights on, a
> couple nights off, etc.
> tell me if you find something that works:)

Kewl, another night worker! Are you on 8's or 12's?  Here's what I've
noticed so far:

I wake up around 5pm. (aka 1700) I shower, etc, then head for the kitchen to
get something to eat. If I've been off the night before, it's already
prepared; if not, it's pot luck and I try to keep some healthy frozen
dinners in the freezer. I avoid trans-fats with a passion whenever possible,
and am coming to feel the same way about high fructose corn syrup. It is NO
accident that American obesity rates have soared since the mid-60s
(introduction of HFCS). Ever looked at the ingredients for most
meal-replacement bars?  Sometimes those two are right at or near the top. I
consider that nutritional sabotage and I want to keep far away from it.

Ok, I get to work and want to eat a healthy snack around 2030 (8:30 p.m.),
workload permitting. It's usually just one of those above mentioned snack or
meal bars, but the organic type. Or else a small pita bread with hummus, or
some cottage cheese and fruit, etc. I eat my "lunch" at around 0030 or a
little before. Then another snack around 0400, and maybe a few little
tidbits in between if I'm hungry, but that is not happening as much as I'm
getting used to this eating plan. I don't have another meal until I get
home. That's generally something very easy to fix, like old-fashioned
oatmeal microwaved with slivered almonds and fruit added. (skim milk used
for the microwave cooking)

My energy level has absolutely soared this week. In the past I'd have had at
least two, if not three, cups of coffee just to stay awake and functioning
on this hard shift, but for the past 6 days or so, I've made it on 1/2 cup
of coffee with my first snack and *none* after that. And - can you believe
this? <s> - I'm not yawning, fighting sleep, restless or "slap-happy" - it's
this level of maintained alertness more than anything that's caught the
attention of my coworkers and we've had some great discussion about
nutrition and healthy eating. I've also been asked to order books on the
glycemic index, good carbs, etc., particularly The G.I. Diet (by Rick
Gallop). As I said, my own plan is modified and I happily include so-called
yellow-light or even occasional red-light items that I know to be
nutritious. I'm not as concerned about calories as I am about balance and
the food being healthy.

At this point I don't really feel like I have quite the right caloric
balance or variety of foods in a given day, but it's getting easier, and it
does seem to work for me. I gained this weight due to a very serious illness
and prolonged activity-intolerance over the course of two years, was able to
return to work, and now feel well enough to lose it.

It's 1018, I've worked for the past three nights, am off now for two, I'm
still awake, and feel rarin' to go. Wow. I know I've got to sleep and will
do so, and generally well. I like feeling good! <s>

I work weird on/off combinations too. Would love to hear about your
experiences. Hope my own can provide some ideas.

Kay
Kasey - 01 Mar 2004 02:48 GMT
Hi Kay:

You don't say whether you have other obligations, such as young
children, elderly parents, continuing education classes, etc., that
make demands on your time during the day.

My shift (on paper) is 5:30 p.m. to 1:30 a.m. weeknights with a
one-hour dinner break. In reality, I arrive at work around 4:30 p.m.,
seldom leave before 2 a.m., and never get a one-hour break for dinner
or anything else. I try to avoid working on my days off, but that's
not always possible.

I don't have any other obligations, and I've worked this shift (with a
few hours variation) for nearly 15 years, so I've adjusted my life to
it.

Striving to keep things semi-consistent is the key for me, but YMMV.

That means even on weekends, I don't try to live on a different
schedule. I go to bed around 5 a.m. and get up around noon everyday.

I eat a small meal (Slimfast or oatmeal) between 1 p.m. and 2:30 p.m.
I will exercise, shower, get dressed, then stop at the grocery for
dinner and Starbucks' for my decaf. Then on to work.

I eat another small meal (fish, casserole, sandwich) when between 6:30
p.m. and 8:30 p.m., and another small meal (veggies or rice) between
10 p.m. and 11 p.m.

I hope this helps.

Kasey
365/293/???
Jayjay - 01 Mar 2004 13:52 GMT
>Hi Kay:
>
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>Kasey
>365/293/???

Kasey,  Your numbers are great!
Kay H. - 01 Mar 2004 15:28 GMT
Jayjay, I like your reply to my original question. Those are great meal and
snack ideas, and I've save the post and will incorporate many of the ideas
into my own eating plan. Thanks!

Kay
Kay H. - 01 Mar 2004 14:55 GMT
> Hi Kay:
>
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> Kasey
> 365/293/???

Hi Kasey,

You have made some very good adjustments to working those hours!  That's
almost as long as my own shift, which, with the commute (*always* in rush
hour traffic because of the times) comes out to being 14 hours out of each
day. I was joking with a coworker last night about wanting to write my own
book once I come up with a plan for healthy eating. (just joking....I think!
lol) I said, "Hmm, I'll call it Eating in Shifts on 15 Minutes a Day." But
seriously, when you work these hours back to back, there's precious little
time for anything but sleep and grabbing whatever's near at hand to eat. As
far as preparing a meal from scratch, forget it. I just started this eating
plan (the G.I. Diet, plus a few modifications, and no, I don't think of it
as a diet, it's a great and healthy way to provide myself with good
nutrition) a week ago Saturday. Kinda slid into it and still managed to lose
4 pounds in the week, plus two more since Saturday.

My only other obligation is my husband, and he works 12-hour shifts as well.
Not the same hours as mine, so we sometimes see each other in passing for
just a few hours on the days we both work. Keeps things interesting when
it's a case of absence makes the heart, etc.
I'm vowing to use my days/nights off to prepare some meals and snacks ahead
of time. That will save me having to chose unwisely when I'm hungry. Does
this work for you, too?

Thanks for your comments!

Kay

(female, 6', 303/297/175...ah, I'll get there!)
Gloria - 01 Mar 2004 14:47 GMT
Hi K, I hope to 'see' you here often! This group is a GREAT help to me.
One thing I've learned to do is eat WHATEVER foods I want for just any
meal at all! Some times I start the day with veggies and chicken! Did
you ever read Dr Phil's book? The smaller paper back is helpful to keep
close as it has great 'food' helps!
Best to you !!
glo
Kay H. - 01 Mar 2004 15:27 GMT
> Hi K, I hope to 'see' you here often! This group is a GREAT help to me.
> One thing I've learned to do is eat WHATEVER foods I want for just any
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> Best to you !!
> glo

Hi Gloria, the encouragement is appreciated! No, I haven't read that book,
but I like the common-sense approach Dr. Phil brings and I will probably buy
it soon. I don't have *too* many diet books but I like finding factors for
motivation and maintaining my resolve.

Kay
 
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