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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / March 2004Confusion over fish & chips
Hi All, I read in the Times(UK) today about people having less healthy lifestyle in more deprived areas. It also states there're more fish & chips shops in those areas. I thought fish is a healthy food, so eating more fish surely helps?? Regards, Thomas > Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I thought fish is a healthy food, so eating more fish surely helps?? Fish by itself is healthy. It's the high fat/high carbohydrate mix of fish and chips that's unhealthy. It's best to choose one or the other. Either eat high fat/low carb or high carb/low fat.  SignatureJeri 265/189/120 Atkins since 11/5/01 "Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right." --Henry Ford What they probably didn't say is that the batter and the deep frying is bad for you. If they were grilling the fish without batter, and serving it with whipped or roast potatoes, it wouldn't be so bad. The other problem is that with a cheap source of filling food, people in those areas may not be getting their fruit and veg. They may also not be exercising which is a crucial part of a healthy life. > Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thomas >Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I thought fish is a healthy food, so eating more fish surely helps?? Yeah, but not breaded and deep fried! Fish is great if you broil it or grill it or bake it, without all the breading and grease. And there isn't much good (from a diet perspective) to be said for the chips -- mainly a vehicle for fat. Something similar but much healthier can be made by cutting a potato into sticks, spraying lightly with a cooking spray, and baking. Better yet are sweet potatoes -- more vitamins than white potatoes. Anyway, the people in the more deprived areas may have less healthy lifestyles for reasons apart from the prevalence of fish and chips shops. They may just be less diet-conscious in general, or may not put as much emphasis on exercise, as the group to which they're being compared. Chris > >Hi All, > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yeah, but not breaded and deep fried! Fish is great if you broil it > or grill it or bake it, without all the breading and grease. In so many parts of the US and the UK, it is nearly impossible to order fresh veggies and fish that aren't deep fried. I feel so lucky here (California) with all our great food, but so many aren't so. When I visited the midwest, veggies on a restaurant menu that weren't breaded and deep fried? Impossible to find! Martha > > >Hi All, > > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Martha That's the way it used to be here. But it's getting better, primarily because of the ethnic restaurants since as the Thai restaurant we ate dinner at tonight. I had a stir fried chicken and veggie dish and the veggies, green peppers, carrots, tomato and some kind of purple thing that I don't know what it was were crisp and excellent. The only thing was that the rice was white and not brown. I only ate a little bit of the rice. The sauce was supposed to be medium hot but if that was medium then so is hell. Tonia > > > >Hi All, > > > > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Tonia Purple? Eggplant, probably. I love things really, really spicey, so it would probably medium to me. : ) It's nice to hear things are changing. I've never understood the lack of diversity in food offerings. I want to know I can get any type of food I want anytime. Martha "MH" wrote > Purple? Eggplant, probably. I love things really, really spicey, so it > would probably medium to me. : ) Spicy is good. Do you have any good recipes for eggplant, Martha? It soaks up oil like a sponge and I'm trying to avoid that. Is it always necessary to salt/ drain / rinse? A Chinese take-out my sister and I go to has wonderful eggplant in garlic sauce. mmmmmm SignatureWalking on . . . Laurie in Maine 207/110 60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 >"MH" wrote > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >A Chinese take-out my sister and I go to has wonderful eggplant in garlic >sauce. mmmmmm I'm not Martha, but I cook eggplant (or aubergine as we call it here) for myself without oil. I do it in the microwave - you prick the skin in a few places and put it on a plate on some absorbent kitchen paper. A whole one weighing 1 lb takes about 6-10 minutes to be soft enough to puree or 4-8 minutes to slice. You can then use if for any dishes, or just mix it with tomatoes, onions, garlic - yummy. I've read that the salting and draining isn't really necessary so I never do it, even if I'm going to fry it in oil (not for myself, of course..) janice 233/177/133 > I'm not Martha, but I cook eggplant (or aubergine as we call it here) > for myself without oil. I do it in the microwave - you prick the skin [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > never do it, even if I'm going to fry it in oil (not for myself, of > course..) Thanks Janice! I'll try that. I've worked out the garlic sauce. SignatureWalking on . . . Laurie in Maine 207/110 60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 > > Purple? Eggplant, probably. I love things really, really spicey, so it > > would probably medium to me. : ) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > A Chinese take-out my sister and I go to has wonderful eggplant in garlic > sauce. mmmmmm Choose either a small Italian eggplant or a Japanese one, which tends to be more tender. Do not peel, slice into 1/4" inch thick slices. Brush each with extra virgin olive oil, broil or grill or high heat along with slices of bell, red and/or green and/or yellow/orange pepper, red onion. Sprinkle with sea salt and freshly ground black pepper. Grill for a few minutes per side until brown. Take off and drizzle with red wine vinegar. Serve. Yumm.... Also, for baba ghanoush, you need to grill the eggplant first. I don't have a recipe in front of me, but there are good ones online. www.epicurious.com Martha "MH" wrote > Also, for baba ghanoush, you need to grill the eggplant first. I don't > have a recipe in front of me, but there are good ones online. > www.epicurious.com Thanks Martha! I've always wanted to try baba ghanoush. I'm looking for a neighbor with tahini in their fridge <g> SignatureWalking on . . . Laurie in Maine 207/110 60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 > > Also, for baba ghanoush, you need to grill the eggplant first. I don't > > have a recipe in front of me, but there are good ones online. > > www.epicurious.com > > Thanks Martha! I've always wanted to try baba ghanoush. I'm looking for a > neighbor with tahini in their fridge <g> Middle Eastern food is some of my favs! Give me a plate of baba ghanoush drizzled with olive oil, a bowl of olives and some pita bread and I'm set! : ) Martha >Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Thomas Fish and chips. Take fish (which, alone, is a healthy food choice) and dip it in a batter of flour and junk, then throw it in a deep frier to soak up grease and oil and cook. Do the same with chips (potatoes). The problem with fish and chips is the batter and oils from frying. Fish alone, grilled or baked is a very healthy choice. Battered, dipped and fried fish is not quite as healthy with all the saturated fats in the oils and processed carbs in the batter. |
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