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Rosemary - 04 Mar 2004 06:14 GMT
Hi, this is my first post here. I'm a week into a low-calorie diet, which I
started because since starting to take drugs prescribed by my doctor
(olanzapine, also called Zyprexa, venlafaxine, also called Efexor or
Effexor, and valproate semi-sodium, also called Depakote) I've gained a LOT
of weight. I'm eighteen, 5' 5" tall and around 245lbs. My fianc? has a
spreadsheet which tells him how many of the various nutrients various foods
have, so I get 100% RDA of all the vitamins, minerals, etc. I also take a
multi-vitamin and minerals tablet, and calcium, selenium, and magnesium
supplements, just in case. My calories are restricted to between 1100 and
1200 a day. The trouble is, the listed side-effects of my medications
include weight-gain and increased appetite. This was a bad enough problem
before I started the diet, which I've started out of necessity as I can't
walk up hills well any more. But now I'm on the diet, I'm so desperately
hungry all the time that I'm constantly tempted to "cheat". I've tried
drinking fluids to stave off hunger pangs but it doesn't work. Does anybody
know how I can avoid getting so hungry, and does anyone else have experience
of weight-gain and of trying to diet while on drugs that affect your weight
and appetite?

Thanks in advance,

Rosemary
Ignoramus9863 - 04 Mar 2004 14:21 GMT
> Hi, this is my first post here. I'm a week into a low-calorie diet, which I
> started because since starting to take drugs prescribed by my doctor
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> of weight-gain and of trying to diet while on drugs that affect your weight
> and appetite?

Did you try asking the doctor who prescribed zyprexa to you?

i
Rosemary - 05 Mar 2004 09:39 GMT
> Did you try asking the doctor who prescribed zyprexa to you?
>
> i

Unfortunately, it is the only one of the modern neuroleptics which I can
take, because of heart issues with the other ones, and the older
neuroleptics give me muscle twitches and spasms, and general weirdness which
makes it very embarrassing to go out in public. And you definitely wouldn't
want to meet me when I'm not on the drugs :-)

Thanks anyway.

Rosemary
Ignoramus15020 - 05 Mar 2004 12:00 GMT
>> Did you try asking the doctor who prescribed zyprexa to you?
>>
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> makes it very embarrassing to go out in public. And you definitely wouldn't
> want to meet me when I'm not on the drugs :-)

Rosemary, I think that you misread my question. I suggested to ask the
doctor who prescribed zyprexa, if he has any suggestions for your
eating issues associated with the drugs that he prescribed. I am not,
as such, against zyprexa.

i
Rosemary - 05 Mar 2004 18:42 GMT
> >> Did you try asking the doctor who prescribed zyprexa to you?
> >>
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>
> i

Oh, I see. I thought you meant I should ask about alternatives to Zyprexa. I
live in the UK and access healthcare through the NHS, which means I only see
my psychiatrist once every three or four months, for about ten minutes, and
that time only offers me just enough space to discuss with her my most
pressing mental health issues, and not to touch on diet. I suppose I could
try seeing my G.P., although she isn't the doctor who put me on the meds. I
should probably see my G.P. about the diet that I'm on anyway, so I will ask
about the drugs and dieting when I see her.

Thanks again.

Rosemary
Patricia Heil - 04 Mar 2004 16:12 GMT
Not really but one thing I don't see here is an exercise program.
Losing weight has to be a two-prong attack, and being healthy does
too.  You won't be healthy if you don't exercise.  My experience
is that an hour of aerobic exercise depresses my appetite for about
an hour, besides burning calories, most of them from fat in the
last 40 minutes.  Do weight work too because it will help build
muscle which burns calories.

> Hi, this is my first post here. I'm a week into a low-calorie diet, which I
> started because since starting to take drugs prescribed by my doctor
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>
> Rosemary
Rosemary - 05 Mar 2004 09:46 GMT
> Not really but one thing I don't see here is an exercise program.
> Losing weight has to be a two-prong attack, and being healthy does
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> last 40 minutes.  Do weight work too because it will help build
> muscle which burns calories.

Thanks for your response. I'd definitely agree that exercise needs to be
part of my regime. I'm planning to join a gym soon, but I want to lose a
little weight first so I don't have so much to lug around, as it were. I
used to weight-train a good deal, which I enjoy more than running and
suchlike (and it's easier on the boobs!) and which is easier on my asthma. I
really do have asthma, I'm not just saying that cause I'm unfit :-D

At the moment, on the number of calories I'm taking in, my energy levels are
even lower than usual (mental health problems are my real barrier when it
comes to energy and motivation), so I'll have to try and work out a way to
get round that.

Thanks again for replying and for your good advice.

Rosemary
JMA - 05 Mar 2004 00:51 GMT
> Hi, this is my first post here. I'm a week into a low-calorie diet, which I
> started because since starting to take drugs prescribed by my doctor
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>
> Rosemary

I feel for you!  It is definitely possible to be satisfied on a low calorie
diet provided you are getting all of the nutrients you need.  To stave off
hunger I'd suggest eating vegetables with your meals and as snacks - low cal
yet "fluffy" enough to make you feel full.  If that's not enough, I
sometimes will use FiberCon or some other fiber supplement.  Talk to your
doctor about it before taking too much fiber because it may affect some
medications.

Jenn
Rosemary - 05 Mar 2004 09:56 GMT
> I feel for you!  It is definitely possible to be satisfied on a low calorie
> diet provided you are getting all of the nutrients you need.  To stave off
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>
> Jenn

Thanks for your advice. I'm pretty picky about veg (no brassicas, no
squashes) but my man makes me eat loads of them. I have some ispaghula
supplement for problems with irregularity etc.; is that the kind of
supplement you mean?

Thanks,

Rosemary
JMA - 05 Mar 2004 11:54 GMT
> > I feel for you!  It is definitely possible to be satisfied on a low
> calorie
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>
> Rosemary

Yes, that's what I was referring to.
Rosemary - 05 Mar 2004 18:43 GMT
> > I have some ispaghula
> > supplement for problems with irregularity etc.; is that the kind of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> >
> Yes, that's what I was referring to.

Great, thanks. I'll look into it.

Rosemary
 
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