Could be because I don't normally eat jam.  But the real mental hunger
didn't start until 4.  That's a big gap.

I've had that before.  Wasn't a problem.

Once again, not a normal selection.

Could also have been pb but I've had that lately too and didn't seem to give
me any unusual reaction.

This was a very high bread day.  Normally I only have a max of 4 slices.  I
have always been a huge bread eater though and old habits die hard.

I sometimes will have cheese..... on bread :D.  I'm not fond of just plain
old cheese by itself.  I'm not very fond of yogurt either.  We have some
yoplait basket stuff in the house but I had one of those the other day and
found that it just didn't satisfy me.

That is actually one of my problems.  Because I'm a very fussy eater I have
a hard time finding good snack foods.  I will work on it though.

I've had the orange before.  It was just used as a tide me over until I
could get to lunch.  It could be true about the diet coke.  I drink water
and only water so when I feel like a little something with taste I choose a
diet coke.  Otherwise I don't usually bother. It could very well be that's
what happens though.

Toast, margarine and whatever spread I choose (sometimes it's pb, sometimes
cheez whiz, sometimes a meat spread, not very often is it jam).  That seems
to be what keeps me satisfied the longest believe it or not.  I have tried
having eggs, cereal, eggos and even chicken on bread at one point but I
always seem to feel somehow lacking.  Having a protein shake to me is like
drinking a milkshake.  It's a drink.. not food. That's the way my brain sees
it.  I've tried it before.  If I don't physically eat something then my mind
cannot think of anything but food even if the belly is full.

I appreciate the suggestions though!! :)

By then it was 1400 or so calories.  Plenty. It's also the normal amount
that I eat and it was fine.  Perhaps it was just too much hidden sugar at
once.

LOL yes I would have to agree that it didn't quite hit the spot.   It
actually smells like dog food.  Not sure why it sounded like a good idea for
lunch.

Well seeing as I don't like cheese on it's own and I don't like nuts or
sliced turkey (the baked kind is ok).  Do you have any other recommendations
for protein?  I'm a fussy eater. Which probably had not helped my situation
any :)

never mind... I did a google search on good sources of protein :)  Sometimes
we get so lazy eh?

That day was not very nutritious (and not very typical of my day) although
dinner was fish, mashed potatoes and green beans and it helped.  I don't
take a multi vitamin but should, I agree.  I am sure I'm depleted in many a
vitamin as there are a lot of things I don't eat.

But having said that... I have never claimed to be extremly health concious.
I'm simply trying to better my habits slowly.  The key being slowly.

I like to make my own so I can control what's in it.  I throw a
generous cupful of salted peanuts into the food processor (they have
just the right amount of salt for my taste, but you could use unsalted
ones).  I like a little sweetness, so I dump a couple of packets of
Equal in.  Then I turn on the food processor and let it run until it's
nice and smooth.  

I store it in the fridge, although I don't know if that's necessary or
not.

I throw all the food processor parts into the dishwasher and walk
away.  If I had to wash that stuff by hand, I don't know if I would
bother!

Stan

My assessment differs from Brad's.  I think you said this was 1400
some calories before dinner time.  This shouldn't be too low,
certainly.  I usually have no more than 1000 before dinner, and I'm
hungry for dinner but not ravenous.  But I think the food you're
eating isn't satisfying you.  It's mostly all carbs, with very little
protein.  I think if that's what I'd been eating all day (though I'd
have to force down all that bread), I'd still be hungry just because
I'd be craving protein.  

Also, though I don't personally experience this, I gather that many
people are "carb sensitive" and that eating carbs just makes them
hungry for more carbs.  Maybe the high carb content of your diet is
making this happen to you?

I read your post where you said that you don't like lots of
protein-rich foods.  I think you need to work on finding some that you
do like, though.  A breakfast without protein is not sufficient for
anyone.  There are cereals with good amounts of protein, if you still
want something carby.  Or eat some low-fat cheese with your bread.
Cottage cheese (if you don't like it, try seasoning it or adding some
splenda/equal or low-sugar preserves) is an excellent protein source.

I'm not sure whether you eat lunch at home or at work, but if at work
you can take things with you.  If you don't like deli turkey slices (I
recall there was some sort of turkey you don't care for), roast a
turkey breast at home and take some with you (or similarly with
chicken).  If you like chicken breasts, buy them frozen and grill one
to have for lunch in a sandwich or salad.  Make tuna salad w/ lowfat
mayo or salad dressing.   Canned beef stew has more gravy and potatoes
than it does meat.

I wouldn't worry much about eating half an orange, or for that matter
a whole one.  More fruit and veggies will give you fiber that will
help you feel full.  I'd substitute those for the bread, which isn't
giving you much bang for the buck nutritionally.

Chris