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Maintenance thoughts, or , why else do you do it?

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megan - 10 Mar 2004 17:00 GMT
Dieting, in a very weird way, has been kind of fun.  Well, maybe not
fun, per se... but it's certainly given me something to focus on.  I
count calories. I chart progress. I read diet weblogs.

Lately, though, all this is starting to bore me. I'm starting to get
sick of all of the, well, obsessing. I don't want to spend the rest of
my life checking every day to see if I've gotten any thinner. I don't
want to keep a mental tally of every calorie I've put in my mouth, or
devise elaborate approximate counts for foods without labels.

I don't want to give up my healthy habits, either, though - so I'm
curious - what, outside of vanity reasons, motivates you to exercise,
eat healthily, listen to yourself when you're full, etc.?

(For example - I started weight-lifting a bit back, and hated it, at
first. It made me hungrier. It was a little dull.  But you know what?
As soon as I started,  my tennis game got better. And so did my
volleyball game.  And I love me some volleyball and tennis... so now I
never skip a workout.  Things like that.)

...megan
Ignoramus21909 - 10 Mar 2004 17:48 GMT
> Dieting, in a very weird way, has been kind of fun.  Well, maybe not
> fun, per se... but it's certainly given me something to focus on.  I
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> ...megan

I also thought, lately, on how I can make my maintenance less time and
emotion consuming.

My conclusion was that the less attention I am able to pay to my
diet/exercise, while at the same being able to maintain weight, the
better. So I found an exercise routine that became a habit for me, and
instead of counting calories etc, I simply eyeball my portions and
watch my weight. It all saves a lot of time. However dull weight
maintenance is, being  fat is even duller. I am stuck having to
be on a diet forever.

i
Carol Frilegh - 10 Mar 2004 23:14 GMT
> > Dieting, in a very weird way, has been kind of fun.  Well, maybe not
> > fun, per se... but it's certainly given me something to focus on.  I
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> maintenance is, being  fat is even duller. I am stuck having to
> be on a diet forever.

Diet and exercise has been one of my best projects and it is mostly on
automatic pilot 3/4 of the time with occasional blips on the radar and
Tanita, but it has been internalized and it's a lifestyle that I really
enjoy. When you've been self conscious a lifetime and don't have
serious body issues any more that makes an enormous difference in
functionality mentally and physically.

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beeswing - 11 Mar 2004 04:43 GMT
ignoramus wrote:

>I also thought, lately, on how I can make my maintenance less time and
>emotion consuming.
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>maintenance is, being  fat is even duller. I am stuck having to
>be on a diet forever.

I'm not finding maintenance to be time consuming or emotion absorbing, myself.
I don't consider myself to be on a diet; I just eat the way I eat now. I do
have a confession, though: When at my lowest, my weight stayed at about 106 to
108. These days, I usually weigh around 110. I'm sure I've settled in at this
weight because it's easy for me and natural for me to maintain, and it's a
perfectly acceptable weight for me. Set point, possibly, if you're into that
theory?

beeswing
Patricia Heil - 11 Mar 2004 01:01 GMT
I keep thinking how my BP and cholesterol are going to shoot
back up and I'm going to have to spend $1500 a year on drugs
if I stop exercising.  Or how I'm going to have to start
spending money on pain killers for my arthritis.  Or how I'm
going to have to spend money on osteoporosis drugs and
dementia drugs in the future.  Or how I'm possibly going to
get cancer again.  Or how I'm going to get more migraines and
have more insomnia like I did before I started exercising
this month.  Or how my heart is going to weaken and stop on
me, between the valvular weakness and my BP and cholesterol
problems.  And then I wouldn't get to see my nieces and
nephews grow up.  And I would have to spend more on drugs
than on food every month.  And some months I would have to
choose between electricity and drugs.  And how the drugs
wouldn't be making me healthy at all, just staving off the
heart attack a little.  

Then I go out and walk two miles or spend half an hour doing Tae Bo.

> Dieting, in a very weird way, has been kind of fun.  Well, maybe not
> fun, per se... but it's certainly given me something to focus on.  I
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> ...megan
Chris Braun - 11 Mar 2004 02:13 GMT
>(For example - I started weight-lifting a bit back, and hated it, at
>first. It made me hungrier. It was a little dull.  But you know what?
>As soon as I started,  my tennis game got better. And so did my
>volleyball game.  And I love me some volleyball and tennis... so now I
>never skip a workout.  Things like that.)

Sports performance is my main motivator, though in my case the sport
is weightlifting :-).  I also really love being able to run and jump
and stuff like that -- makes me feel younger than my almost-56 years.

Also, because I compete in lifting, and because it is done by weight
class, there's also a more direct incentive to watch my weight, so I
can stay in the weight class I want to be in.

Chris
262/159/ (holding in 152-165 weight class)
Perple Gyrl - 11 Mar 2004 03:01 GMT
I'm not at maintained yet... However, here are a few things that motivate me
to keep up with my WOL:

-I just feel so much better overall!
-My knee, back and neck pain have been greatly reduced with the 70+ lbs I've
lost thus far.
-It is great being more flexible.
-I comfortably fit sitting on average sized furniture, airplanes, movie
theaters.
-I don't feel embarrassed to be seen in public.
-It helps with my job since I do make sales calls to customers.  I feel more
confident when putting on a presentation.  It is fun to see customers I
haven't seen in months and see their shock at my metamorphosis.
-All positions of sex are better, and I am enjoying new positions!
-Even though I am married, I am enjoying the extra attention I am getting
from men.  I notice that I get much more door opening, eye contact and small
talk from them then I used to.
-I no longer own any clothes that are too small for me!  Not 1 item... I am
going shopping this weekend since I've been fitting pretty steady in 14/16
for a couple of months now.
-I don't want to die from all of the health issues associated with obesity.
I want to spend the rest of my life healthy.
-I love how muscular my legs, arms and shoulders are looking and feeling.
-It is great that I don't get as winded during or after cardio anymore.

I could go on for days....  DON'T GIVE UP, WHATEVER YOU DO!

284/212/199/???

> Dieting, in a very weird way, has been kind of fun.  Well, maybe not
> fun, per se... but it's certainly given me something to focus on.  I
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> ...megan
Rogue - 12 Mar 2004 00:42 GMT
> I'm not at maintained yet... However, here are a few things that motivate me
> to keep up with my WOL:
[...]
> -Even though I am married, I am enjoying the extra attention I am getting
> from men.  I notice that I get much more door opening, eye contact and small
> talk from them then I used to.
[...]

While I am so happy that you enjoy all the benefits you've listed,
this one also makes me sad. The implication being that you, at a
higher weight, did not "deserve" the common courtesies of door
opening, eye contact, and small talk :(

Why does anti-fat sentiment seem to be exclusively reserved for
females, or is that just my perception?

Rogue
JMA - 12 Mar 2004 01:26 GMT
> > I'm not at maintained yet... However, here are a few things that motivate me
> > to keep up with my WOL:
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> Rogue

I don't know that it is just your perception based on the number of fat guys
who used to insult me about my weight when I was fat.

Jenn
Perple Gyrl - 12 Mar 2004 03:54 GMT
I never said I didn't "deserve" these common coutesies...  Where did I say I
didn't "deserve" it???

Regardless of what I felt I "deserved", I was not treated the same as I am
now.

"Rogue" <becoming_rogue@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> While I am so happy that you enjoy all the benefits you've listed,
> this one also makes me sad. The implication being that you, at a
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>
> Rogue
Rogue - 12 Mar 2004 20:45 GMT
> I never said I didn't "deserve" these common coutesies...  Where did I say I
> didn't "deserve" it???
>
> Regardless of what I felt I "deserved", I was not treated the same as I am
> now.

Sorry if I didn't make myself clear: I don't fault you; I fault the
men who treat women differently according to size.

Rogue :)
Perple Gyrl - 13 Mar 2004 00:09 GMT
Gotcha... It is easy to have a misunderstanding here with interpretation.
Thanks for letting me know!

"Rogue" <becoming_rogue@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> Sorry if I didn't make myself clear: I don't fault you; I fault the
> men who treat women differently according to size.
>
> Rogue :)
Rogue - 13 Mar 2004 07:55 GMT
Dally wrote:
>LOL, do you fault dogs for sniffing crotches, too?
>
>Many men are visually turned on and it's quite a primative instinct
for
>them to turn on charm around a pretty woman.

Yes, it's interesting: I recently had a similar discussion with a
friend about biological drives in the human being. I was trying to
make the point that hopefully, we are more than our biology.

>Are you one of those wives
>who gets in a huff if your husband's head turns to watch a shapely
a.s?

Can't answer that as I'm not married ;)

>But for what it's worth, women treat fat people just as badly.
>Beautiful people were ALWAYS treated better in nearly every
situation.
>Make more money, get better service, etc.  It's human nature to
prefer
>pretty things over ugly things.

I guess it's just me then: I don't necessarily equate thin with
beautiful...

Rogue
beeswing - 13 Mar 2004 17:20 GMT
>Dally wrote:
>>Many men are visually turned on and it's quite a primative instinct
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>friend about biological drives in the human being. I was trying to
>make the point that hopefully, we are more than our biology.

Some of them are.

>>Are you one of those wives
>>who gets in a huff if your husband's head turns to watch a shapely
>a.s?
>
>Can't answer that as I'm not married ;)

I can't answer that, either. My husband doesn't do that.

beeswing
rosie - 13 Mar 2004 18:00 GMT
> I can't answer that, either. My husband doesn't do that.
>
> beeswing

what?
is he dead?

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beeswing - 13 Mar 2004 22:11 GMT
>what?
>is he dead?

Nope. We are more than our primitive instincts. Gawking at women is rude.
Gawking at women while your wife is watching is twice rude (and stupid, my
husband adds).

beeswing
rosie - 14 Mar 2004 15:34 GMT
> Gawking at women is rude.
> Gawking at women while your wife is watching is twice rude (and stupid, my
> husband adds).
>
> beeswing

:)
MH - 16 Mar 2004 14:32 GMT
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> I can't answer that, either. My husband doesn't do that.

Your husband has class. : )

It's tacky to do such a thing. One can look at a nice body without making a
big deal out of it. If a man (or woman) is making a big deal out of someone
else in front of their spouse, they are either trying to send them a
message, or just plain thoughtless.

Martha
beeswing - 17 Mar 2004 17:07 GMT
Martha wrote:

>> >> <Dally wrote> Are you one of those wives
>> >>who gets in a huff if your husband's head turns to watch a shapely
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>Your husband has class. : )

Thanks. I agree. :)

>It's tacky to do such a thing. One can look at a nice body without making a
>big deal out of it. If a man (or woman) is making a big deal out of someone
>else in front of their spouse, they are either trying to send them a
>message, or just plain thoughtless.

Once upon a time a very long time ago, I briefly went out with a guy who
flirted with every woman he encountered... We went out to dinner once, and he
flirted big time with the waitress while I was sitting there. He eventually got
married (thank goodness, not to me), and I do hope he grew out of it.

beeswing
MH - 19 Mar 2004 03:29 GMT
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> beeswing

Either that or she divorced him after he messed around on her. Men who
disrespect their women are bound to do anything.

Martha
Dally - 13 Mar 2004 05:57 GMT
>>I never said I didn't "deserve" these common coutesies...  Where did I say I
>>didn't "deserve" it???
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>
> Rogue :)

LOL, do you fault dogs for sniffing crotches, too?

Many men are visually turned on and it's quite a primative instinct for
them to turn on charm around a pretty woman.  Are you one of those wives
who gets in a huff if your husband's head turns to watch a shapely a.s?

But for what it's worth, women treat fat people just as badly.
Beautiful people were ALWAYS treated better in nearly every situation.
Make more money, get better service, etc.  It's human nature to prefer
pretty things over ugly things.

Dally
MH - 15 Mar 2004 01:02 GMT
> > I'm not at maintained yet... However, here are a few things that motivate me
> > to keep up with my WOL:
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>
> Rogue

No, it is that way. A poster in here a while ago said, that as soon as a
woman loses weight, she can have her pick of any man she wants....he assumed
that only thin women are attractive enough to men.

Martha
JMA - 11 Mar 2004 03:38 GMT
> Dieting, in a very weird way, has been kind of fun.  Well, maybe not
> fun, per se... but it's certainly given me something to focus on.  I
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>
> ...megan

My motivations come from health and athletic ability - and definitely some
vanity.  I like having a very low resting HR and low normal BP.  Being able
to move around as I can now.  I never could have taken this rock climbing
class before.

My weight lifting has improved my running times.  Now I like lifting because
I'm getting noticeably stronger. I still can't jump high enough when playing
the net in volleyball, but I can finally serve overhand :)

Jenn
Kasey - 13 Mar 2004 05:43 GMT
>>what, outside of vanity reasons, motivates you to exercise,
> eat healthily, listen to yourself when you're full, etc.?<<

I'm a long way from maintenance, but this WOE/WOL never was, and I
hope never will be, motivated by vanity.

My motivators are health and quality of life.

Kasey
365/288/???
 
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