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Jamberoo - 14 Mar 2004 14:14 GMT
Hi All

I was wondering if anybody could tell me how an eliptical trainer compairs
to a stattic bike?  I have never tried one but was concidering buying one.
I just wondered what the thoughts about them were.

3 weeks in...
Start weight 290
Current weight 281

Thanx

Jim.
Perple Gyrl - 14 Mar 2004 17:06 GMT
I prefer elliptical over the bike.  You work larger areas and burn more
calories.  It also hurts my knees a lot less.

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Elise Converse - 14 Mar 2004 22:41 GMT
I totally agree.  For some reason the bike just kills my knees.  I don't
know if I have the stroke set wrong or what.  My only complaint about the
elliptical is that my back gets very stiff after an extended time.  I have
discovered that if I change my position from time to time this is minimized.
Also does burn many more calories.  Elise.
> I prefer elliptical over the bike.  You work larger areas and burn more
> calories.  It also hurts my knees a lot less.
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Jayjay - 15 Mar 2004 14:39 GMT
And I'll do the other side.

I prefer the bike to the elliptical.   Yeah you get more of a workout
with the elliptical - but it KILLS MY KNEES.  

:-)

This is just to state the point:  YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary).   What
works for one may not work for another.  

Try the machines out before you sink the $$ to buy it.

>I prefer elliptical over the bike.  You work larger areas and burn more
>calories.  It also hurts my knees a lot less.
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Paul - 14 Mar 2004 23:49 GMT
Hey Jim,

 I like using an elliptical machine at the gym.  They aren't hard to use
and seems to make me sweat a lot and burn the calories.  I've never had
these results with an exercise bike, although someone else might have.

Paul
300/207/175

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OceanView - 15 Mar 2004 03:20 GMT
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I had good results with a bike, after I customized it a little
(just call me Tim the toolman Taylor)!  After years of service, I
finally broke, literally cracked in two while I was on it, and I
was thinner then!  I use a treadmill now, because bikes put
pressure on the knees and the privates (irrevsable damage to
prostate was all I had to hear).
Joanna Tsang Ramberg - 15 Mar 2004 05:21 GMT
> > Hey Jim,
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> prostate was all I had to hear).
Yikes!!!  I can't do treadmills now b/c of the impact on my lower.
And surely if you are running instead of walking, you better have
good support and cushion on your shoes or you will still get kick
injuries from the treadmill.

Cheers,
Joanna

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OceanView - 16 Mar 2004 18:51 GMT
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> Cheers,
> Joanna

No, running's not an option.  Damaged disc, L4-L5. Much more
disabling than knee problems, so it takes precedent. My treadmill
at home reads low.  So when it says I'm doing 3 mph, I think its
really about 3.5.  Good shoes are expensive and living now below
the poverty line, $14 Walmart shoes will have to do.
Beverly - 16 Mar 2004 19:24 GMT
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> really about 3.5.  Good shoes are expensive and living now below
> the poverty line, $14 Walmart shoes will have to do.

Don't cut yourself too short on the shoes.  Improper support can lead to
back problems and you definitely don't want to add to yours.  Look for the
best you can afford.  Good shoes don't have to cost an arm and a leg if
you're willing to go with last year's model, etc.  Watch for discontinued
styles and other sales.  I've had lower back problems since childhood and
start feeling pain in the lower back when my shoes begin to wear down.
With the damaged disc I would imagine you would want lots of cushioning to
avoid jarring.
OceanView - 18 Mar 2004 18:06 GMT
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> With the damaged disc I would imagine you would want lots of
> cushioning to avoid jarring.

I need decent shoes during the summer when I walk outside, but
treadmills have shock absorbtion built in, so it's less of a
problem.

I'm two months behind on gas and electric with no knowledge of
where the next dime is coming from, so the reasonably new pair of
cheap shoes will have to do for now. I *was* starting to walk
outside, then womp!, another foot of snow.
Jayjay - 16 Mar 2004 19:46 GMT
>No, running's not an option.  Damaged disc, L4-L5. Much more
>disabling than knee problems, so it takes precedent. My treadmill
>at home reads low.  So when it says I'm doing 3 mph, I think its
>really about 3.5.  Good shoes are expensive and living now below
>the poverty line, $14 Walmart shoes will have to do.

If you are willing to spend $14 on walmart shoes, would you be willing
to spend $20 or $25 for a HUGE difference in quality?

If you can swing it, then what you do is keep your eyes open.
Around my area we have Rack Room Clearance Outlet store - where the
"last season" shoes go at the end of the season.    I can pick up
brand new running sneakers for $10 - $25 (depending on my luck).    It
takes effort to watch the store and when I find them, I'll buy a
couple pair at a time.

Another tip is to watch your local department stores, or places like
Fashion Footwear.  WHen they have their sales you can many times get
new shoes for up to 75% off (putting them down into a $20 price
range).

Finally, I'll watch the local outlet stores for their sales and can go
into Reebok or Nike and get the sales where you buy 2, get 1 free
which, once again, can bring down your "per pair" price to the $20 -
$25 range.

Reebok, Nike or New Balance are the brands to stick with.    I think
the common consensus is New Balance makes the best shoe.
OceanView - 18 Mar 2004 18:01 GMT
>>No, running's not an option.  Damaged disc, L4-L5. Much more
>>disabling than knee problems, so it takes precedent. My
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> Reebok, Nike or New Balance are the brands to stick with.    I
> think the common consensus is New Balance makes the best shoe.  

I try to keep my eyes open, though It's not my first priority.  
After losing my car and 30 years of retirement savings, trying to
find employment is where my focus is.  If only I could lose weight
that easily!  What's really scary is that for number of resumes--
hundreds--that I've sent out, I don't even get a sigle inquiry, let
alone an interview.

I always like Reebok, though I've never owned a pair of New
Balance.
Brad Sheppard - 15 Mar 2004 01:33 GMT
Jim,

I love the EFX (eliptical trainer) machines at LA Fitness - but I
believe they cost $3000. I can't say how a cheaper home model would
feel.  Have you tried a fully recumbant bike - no pressure on butt.

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Jamberoo - 15 Mar 2004 20:43 GMT
Thanx all for your input.  It's given me food for thought.

Jim.
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Doug Freyburger - 15 Mar 2004 23:37 GMT
> I was wondering if anybody could tell me how an eliptical trainer compairs
> to a stattic bike?  I have never tried one but was concidering buying one.

Price: elipticals cost a *lot* more money than static bikes.  Exact price
varies by brand and store, so you may be able to find an affordable one.
 
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