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susanjoneslewis - 13 Mar 2004 14:54 GMT
I need some input from yall.
Last night here in the new house we bought, we have new mirrors in the
bathroom that I didn't have before at my old home. Needless to say
walking naked into a full length mirror after a 60+ lb weightloss is a
scary ordeal. I have learned to ignore it for the most part but
lastnight I walked past this mirror and I honestly wanted to cringe. My
skin is just hanging there and I am wondering if it will ever get any
better looking. 3 kids have seriously damaged my skin around my waist
and hips and I know the stretchmarks will never go away (so I tan to get
a little more even skin tone) but will the skin itself ever shape up any
more than this? what happens when I shed the 60+ more I want to lose to
goal? Will I end up just a walking mass of gross loose skin? I know spot
reduction does not work. But will the little bit of weight resistance
I've been doing pay off on toning up my skin as well as my muscle?
Cosmetic surgery isn't an option for me financially at this time and I'm
not sure it would be even if I was able to pay for it.

Grossed out by her own skin

Susan
260/200/140
Dally - 13 Mar 2004 15:01 GMT
> I need some input from yall.
> Last night here in the new house we bought, we have new mirrors in the
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> Susan
> 260/200/140

Ive got lots of thoughts on this.  Unfortunately, they don't converge
into an answer. :-)

One point of view is that your skin shows your life experiences.  It
just is who you are.  You aren't going to be 18 again.  You've got
children, fat gain and fat loss telling their story on your skin.
Accept that you won't look good naked and invest in pretty clothes.

I am doing everything I can for my skin - I put lotion concoctions on
it, I eat lots of fish oils, I've avoided the sun.... and there seems to
be a tiny bit of improvement.  Tiny.  I don't know if years to come will
show slight improvement along the way until it's fixed or not.  I sort
of doubt it.

So I consider a tummy tuck.  But I'm also considering buying a hot tub.
 It's a bit moot as I don't have the money for either, but in a real
way the next $5K I have to spend on a big capital investment would go
between one of those two, so they really do get placed head to head like
that.  When you think about it like that, would you rather have smooth
skin (and some risk and expense) or the money?

Dally
janice - 13 Mar 2004 15:09 GMT
Susan, I can't really answer your question, but I've had a nearly full
length mirror in the bathroom for years - it's above the washbasin and
opposite the bath, so | get a full frontal when I stand up to get out
of the bath.  I find I don't have any problem with seeing myself
naked, although like you I have a big problem with surplus skin.  I
don't have this on my stomach, as I've never carried much fat at all
round my middle or abdomen, nor have I had children.  Mine is on my
thighs and backside and I feel almost as self conscious of it when I
go swimming or to the doctor's as I felt when it was filled out with
fat.  I also wonder how I would look if I reach my goal, as I've
already lost around 9 inches off my hips and am hoping to lose at
least 6 more.  As for stretch marks, I acquired these when I was
around 18, when my weight was already yo-yoing, and I expect them to
be with me for life:(

janice
233/177/133

>I need some input from yall.
>Last night here in the new house we bought, we have new mirrors in the
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>Susan
>260/200/140
susanjoneslewis - 13 Mar 2004 15:33 GMT
I guess I need to step back and look at the positive things I have
traded for the saggy skin.

Although It would be a blessing to not have this skin issue.  I look
great in my size 16/14's, I feel better than I have in 15 years. I am
not pre diabetic/insulin resistant any longer, I haven't had a bout of
acid reflux since June of last year, my roseca has almost disappeared.
The other mystery skin boils/cysts are about gone completely. The drive
and determination to get healthier caused me to quit smoking which I am
happy with. The depression I've suffered with is at bay. I can do most
physical activities with ease now.. and the list goes on and on. And..
Mark loves me and thinks I am beautiful - skin and all. I just wish that
I could find something that would help ME feel better about it.

Susan
260/200/140

> Susan, I can't really answer your question, but I've had a nearly full
> length mirror in the bathroom for years - it's above the washbasin and
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> >Susan
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Dally - 13 Mar 2004 15:47 GMT
> I guess I need to step back and look at the positive things I have
> traded for the saggy skin.
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> Susan
> 260/200/140

I know what you mean.  Your littany is my littany.  (Except for the part
about Mark.  I don't think Mark loves me.)

I think that the issues I have with my skin come down to some
unrealistic expectation that I *could* somehow "look good naked" (one of
the mottos of the weight loss program I started two years ago.)  The
reality is that MOST people don't look "good" naked in the sense of the
media image.  I work out in a gym and see half a dozen naked women every
day.  The ones that look good naked are a tiny percentage - and that's
among a population that works out!  Somehow we've got to adjust our
expectations to reality.  Let's all blame the media, shall we?  :-)

Dally
SnugBear - 14 Mar 2004 01:28 GMT
> I think that the issues I have with my skin come down to some
> unrealistic expectation that I *could* somehow "look good naked" (one
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> adjust our expectations to reality.  Let's all blame the media, shall
> we?  :-)

Thank you!  This is the correct answer, of course.

Also - did we look better naked when we were FAT???  I know I didn't!  I
am quite content that I look as good as *I* can right now and the facts
are that I'm 48 years old, 5 feet tall and I lost nearly 100 pounds.  I
wouldn't change any of those things.

Candlelight, music, a silky robe on the skin - we all look good <s>

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J.J. in WA State - 14 Mar 2004 10:02 GMT
Hark! I heard SnugBear <snugNObear@midmaine.com> say:

> > I think that the issues I have with my skin come down to some
> > unrealistic expectation that I *could* somehow "look good naked" (one
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>
> Candlelight, music, a silky robe on the skin - we all look good <s>

Nicely written, both of you, and I agree. Granted, I have no idea how
much skin I'll have hanging around after I'm done, but given my huge
C-Section scar (no lateral cuts when they're in a hurry and you're a
fat mother-to-be), I never pictured wearing a bikini when I got to my
goal weight anyway. I've never had a model's figure, and never will.

Still, after losing 34 pounds total since last fall (10 of those via
diet/exercise, 24 due to uncontrolled diabetes), I think I look one
heck of a lot better naked now. And given the way he's been acting
lately, I think my hubby agrees... ;-)

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Paul - 13 Mar 2004 16:19 GMT
Hello Susan,

 I've noticed some excess skin and fat in my lower abdomen and have
been considering getting a tummy tuck if it doesn't leave after my reaching
my goal.  I've been looking at some plastic surgery web sites for local
doctors and have been impressed with some of the before and after photos
they have taken of clients.  I was looking at a price list of common
surgical procedures and it appears that the average cost of a tummy tuck is
around $4500 I believe and Liposuction is around $2000-$3000.

 It really can be more or less depending on your doctor and other factors
like how many areas you need done and such.  If your ok seeing yourself
naked or at a pool with a bathing suit on then you probably don't need it.
If you can't stand the way you look then maybe you should a tummy tuck.  I
know of several procedures I'd like to have done, but if I ever decide that
I am going to do one it's probably going to be the tummy tuck.

 Here is a link that shows some before and after photos.  It really is up
to you.

http://www.plasticsurgery4u.com/procedure_folder/abdominoplasty/

Take care,

Paul

> I need some input from yall.
> Last night here in the new house we bought, we have new mirrors in the
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> Susan
> 260/200/140
Perple Gyrl - 14 Mar 2004 17:28 GMT
I've seen this site before.  I want the tuck too, but I dislike how apparent
and dark the scars are.

"Paul" <paulftw@charter.net> wrote in message

>   Here is a link that shows some before and after photos.  It really is up
> to you.
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rosie - 13 Mar 2004 18:03 GMT
> > > Grossed out by her own skin
> > >
> > > Susan
> > > 260/200/140

susan,
a lot depends on your age, and the condition of your
skin...................
That T Woman - 13 Mar 2004 16:26 GMT
> I need some input from yall.
> Last night here in the new house we bought, we have new mirrors in the
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> Susan
> 260/200/140

I don't notice any loose skin on my tummy area (yet) but the skin under my
chin and on my throat is getting loose and I'm afraid I'm going to have a
"turkey" waddle where the double chin used to be.  Also my arms are getting
more muscular but the fat and skin that hangs like bat wings doesn't seem to
be going away.  I can pull a pinch of skin away from the fat/muscle there
and I can't do that anywhere else!  I'm trying an anti-aging skin cream
along with a vitamin E cream and some aloe vera.  I'm also doing more
exfoliating (I figure that at least I can get rid of the dead skin cells).
A woman who worked as a laser hair removal tech told me that aloe vera was
good for promoting collagen production in skin.  The theory is that saggy
skin doesn't have enough collagen.  I'm just hoping that the skin will
tighten up if I keep loosing slow and am patient.  The important thing is
losing the weight so I don't become diabetic or develop heart disease too
soon.

Tonia
221/191/130
Perple Gyrl - 14 Mar 2004 17:13 GMT
I am there too!  Only my stomach and thighs and boobs are probably in worse
shape then yours are.  I've yoyoed from 324 to 224 to 284 back down to 212
isince 1999.   My tummy will never be flat w/out surgery.  I have the money
saved for it, I just have to get to goal, stay at goal and try to have a
kid.  I hope to get this done by the time I am 38 or 39, I am 35 now.

Regarding the mirrors... don't let them spook you.  Just accept that is who
you are.  I look at myself naked in mirrors every day and I try to find
something I like.  For instance, I'll look at my butt and notice how much
smaller it has gotten since I've lost so much weight.  I'll look at my saggy
thighs and notice how muscular they've gotten under all of the excess skin.

> I need some input from yall.
> Last night here in the new house we bought, we have new mirrors in the
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> Susan
> 260/200/140
 
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