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J.J. in WA State - 17 Mar 2004 23:29 GMT
This question is aimed at Laurie because she walks so much, but
anyone else is free to chime in too. The question is: how does
one know when their walking shoes need replacing?

A few years ago, I went to see a podiatrist because my feet
were cramped and sore, especially where the toe meets the foot
on the top side. He told me to get some shoes with good support
(I normally wear Reeboks Classics, which are cute, but are not
very supportive). So I got some Brooks walking shoes at Big 5;
they worked great for walking, shopping, etc. but lately they
seem to be getting harder, less springy, and my feet are getting
sore again sometimes.

Do I need new shoes, and if so, is there a brand you really
like or should I stick with what I've been using? Or, should
I see the podiatrist again? I don't want to be an alarmist,
it's just that walking is my favorite form of cardio, so I
need my feet to be in their best shape. And they deserve the
pampering; they've been carrying a big load for the last 10
years. ;-)

Thanks for any advice...

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Perple Gyrl - 18 Mar 2004 03:08 GMT
Hi J.J.... it sounds like your shoes are getting close to the end of their
useful life!  When in doubt, replace them.  I like New Balance, they are the
most comfy sneakers I've ever worn!

> This question is aimed at Laurie because she walks so much, but
> anyone else is free to chime in too. The question is: how does
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> J.J. in WA State
> (251/241/150)
Chris Braun - 18 Mar 2004 05:00 GMT
>Hi J.J.... it sounds like your shoes are getting close to the end of their
>useful life!  When in doubt, replace them.  I like New Balance, they are the
>most comfy sneakers I've ever worn!

I also like New Balance.  I wear New Balance 1220s.  These are
described as running shoes, but also are excellent for walking.  (It
was recommended to me to buy running shoes even if I just wanted them
for walking.  And now that I run as well these are good general
purpose shoes.)

I also use separately-purchased orthotic insoles in my shoes.  I like
the Superfeet brand, but there are other good ones as well.

I purchase my shoes and insoles from www.newbalancewebexpress.com,
which often has some good closeout buys.  You might want to check it
out.

Chris (just a happy customer -- not affiliated)
estella - 18 Mar 2004 06:01 GMT
>I purchase my shoes and insoles from www.newbalancewebexpress.com,
>which often has some good closeout buys.  You might want to check it
>out.
>
>Chris (just a happy customer -- not affiliated)

In the running group they are usually naming New Balance,
Reebok and Nike as best running shoes.
I  am running with Nike shoes but I shall soon replace them.
I had a new pair of shoes but they are not enough cushioned for
running.
I felt every single stone when I ran with them, therefore I only ran
with them once.
MH - 19 Mar 2004 05:55 GMT
> >I purchase my shoes and insoles from www.newbalancewebexpress.com,
> >which often has some good closeout buys.  You might want to check it
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> I felt every single stone when I ran with them, therefore I only ran
> with them once.

You probably bought trainers, which are highly prized by seasoned runners,
but not really for beginners. Experienced runners usually can't stand all
the over cushioning of typical running shoes these days, therefore they buy
trainers. Hang onto those trainers until you're ready for them, which you
probably will be one day. : )

Martha
Perple Gyrl - 18 Mar 2004 13:58 GMT
Cool.. thanks... I have to buy size 9 men's wides to fit my 11 feet.  This
is equivalent to Womens 11 wide... which I can't find anywhere!!  I look
forward to researching this site...

"Chris Braun" <braun_chris@mindspring.com> wrote in message

> I purchase my shoes and insoles from www.newbalancewebexpress.com,
> which often has some good closeout buys.  You might want to check it
> out.
>
> Chris (just a happy customer -- not affiliated)
Chris Braun - 19 Mar 2004 04:19 GMT
>Cool.. thanks... I have to buy size 9 men's wides to fit my 11 feet.  This
>is equivalent to Womens 11 wide... which I can't find anywhere!!  I look
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>>
>> Chris (just a happy customer -- not affiliated)

The web site carries women's shoes in up to 13 wide :-).

Chris
Perple Gyrl - 19 Mar 2004 05:35 GMT
Cool... but men's and women's are the same shoe actually with size
variances.  I'll be shopping for new sneakers at Kohl's next week for free
with coupons!!  I will keep the site bookmarked for future reference though!

"Chris Braun" <braun_chris@mindspring.com>

> The web site carries women's shoes in up to 13 wide :-).
>
> Chris
MH - 19 Mar 2004 05:55 GMT
> Cool.. thanks... I have to buy size 9 men's wides to fit my 11 feet.  This
> is equivalent to Womens 11 wide... which I can't find anywhere!!  I look
> forward to researching this site...

Wide feet, those are good shoes for you.

Martha
Perple Gyrl - 19 Mar 2004 06:07 GMT
Yup.... it is weird though, several pairs of my shoes are feeling a bit
loose on my feet now.  Can foot size shrink???  I am wondering if I will
ever get out of having to wear wides?  I am so limited to the types of shoes
I can wear due to my 11 wides.  Aerosoles fit me great, but most other shoes
are too narrow.

"MH" <bastzine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in

> Wide feet, those are good shoes for you.
>
> Martha
Chris Braun - 20 Mar 2004 02:02 GMT
>Yup.... it is weird though, several pairs of my shoes are feeling a bit
>loose on my feet now.  Can foot size shrink???  I am wondering if I will
>ever get out of having to wear wides?  I am so limited to the types of shoes
>I can wear due to my 11 wides.  Aerosoles fit me great, but most other shoes
>are too narrow.

I used to buy all my shoes in wide, but since I've lost weight I
generally wear regular width.  I still buy my running shoes in wide.
I'm thinking I may go get fitted next time I order a pair, though, in
case this should be changed.

Chris
Perple Gyrl - 20 Mar 2004 05:33 GMT
"Chris Braun"

> I used to buy all my shoes in wide, but since I've lost weight I
> generally wear regular width.  I still buy my running shoes in wide.
> I'm thinking I may go get fitted next time I order a pair, though, in
> case this should be changed.

Well the wides still fit me pretty well, they just don't feel so *snug*
anymore.  They fit a bit looser and I am not sure if Regulars would fit me
now.  I am waiting until I lose more to find out, as I have plenty of shoes
to wear until then.  My favorite casual non-athletic shoes to wear are my
Dansko clogs.  They are so confortable and make my feet feel so good.
Check them out at www.dansko.com.  I would love to get some Dansko sandals,
but they are only made up to European size 42.  The Karl style clogs are
unisex and I wear a size 43, so sandals are too tight (or were last year!).
Their shoes are made a bit small, so I don't wear a 41 as it shows a size 11
foot to wear.  I'll try them out later this year.

> Chris
Chris Braun - 20 Mar 2004 12:08 GMT
>"Chris Braun"
>
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>>
>> Chris

I'll have to check these out.  I wear a size 8 US, so I'm easy to fit.

Chris
Perple Gyrl - 20 Mar 2004 05:41 GMT
I would go to a store and try them on then buy them on Ebay.  They are
expensive and Ebay has better prices.  It took me about a week to get used
to them, and now the clogs are my best friends.  I have 2 pairs.  They are
recommended by podiatrists and orthopedists.  Nurses wear them and nurses
are on their feet all day long.

"Chris Braun"

> I'll have to check these out.  I wear a size 8 US, so I'm easy to fit.
>
> Chris
J.J. in WA State - 18 Mar 2004 18:20 GMT
Hark! I heard Chris Braun <braun_chris@mindspring.com> say:

> >Hi J.J.... it sounds like your shoes are getting close to the end of their
> >useful life!  When in doubt, replace them.  I like New Balance, they are the
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> which often has some good closeout buys.  You might want to check it
> out.

Thanks for the input, both of you -- I'll check out that web site
ASAP. Also, if I can get down to 239 by Sunday (one more pound and
I'll finally be under 240!), we're going out for a nice dinner in
Olympia and will go by Big 5 again to see what they have.

And speaking of the "nice dinner", that's usually a trip to the
Outback (I love their steaks). Before January, that meant the
fried mushrooms appetizer (shared with the family), creamy onion
soup OR a salad with lots of blue cheese dressing and croutons,
a 10 oz. steak (although I would have half for breakfast the next
day), baked potato with everything, 2-3 pieces of bread with butter,
and occasionally, dessert. Whew! I can't believe I used to eat so
much!

If/when we go on Sunday, I'll skip the appetizer and soup/salad,
have a 7 oz. steak, get steamed veggies w/butter sauce instead of
potato, maybe one piece of bread (no butter). According to Dietpower,
that works out to 675 calories and 23g of carbs (which I do have to
be aware of, being diabetic). That still leaves me with 825 calories
for the rest of Sunday, and no guilt!!

I'm excited about this, because over the weeks I've learned that I
can go out, enjoy a nice meal, and stick to my diet. That's probably
old news to most of you, but it's something I didn't think was possible.
I didn't realize how much food you can eat and still keep the calories
low. This gives me great hope for how I'll handle maintenance, and not
gaining the weight back, as I have in the past. I finally understand
that it doesn't have to be all or nothing -- good food choices don't
have to mean feeling deprived... :-)

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Perple Gyrl - 19 Mar 2004 05:43 GMT
"J.J. in WA State"

> And speaking of the "nice dinner", that's usually a trip to the
> Outback (I love their steaks). Before January, that meant the
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> and occasionally, dessert. Whew! I can't believe I used to eat so
> much!

I know it.  I used to eat similarly.  I like Outback too.  Their sweet
potatos are sinful.

> If/when we go on Sunday, I'll skip the appetizer and soup/salad,
> have a 7 oz. steak, get steamed veggies w/butter sauce instead of
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> that it doesn't have to be all or nothing -- good food choices don't
> have to mean feeling deprived... :-)

Bingo!  I feel the same way as you do.  I can still go out and eat healthy
and not gain weight.  I don't have to be a glutton to have a nice dinner!  I
also feel so much better physically if I don't pig out.  675 is still quite
a bit of calories to have for 1 meal.  As long as you don't make a habit of
it, you should be ok to do this occassionally.

My hubby and I went to Saltgrass tonight.  I got a sirloin and ate about 4
oz of it.  I also got a size of broc. steamed with no butter and a dinner
salad.  I had the light dressing on the side and dipped my fork in it as I
ate the salad.  It was an awesome dinner!

> --
> J.J. in WA State
> (251/240/150)
MH - 19 Mar 2004 05:49 GMT
> >Hi J.J.... it sounds like your shoes are getting close to the end of their
> >useful life!  When in doubt, replace them.  I like New Balance, they are the
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>
> Chris (just a happy customer -- not affiliated)

New Balance are good for wide, over-pronating feet, not for everyone.

My suggestion is to go to a running store (they will also be able to fit
walking shoes) and get fitted, don't take the advice of others. You may have
under-pronating, narrow feet (like myself) with extremely high arches. New
Balance are one of the worst brands to buy for me. Or, you may have regular,
normal feet. Go, get fitted and cut back on something else.

Martha
SnugBear - 18 Mar 2004 04:20 GMT
>  The question is: how does
> one know when their walking shoes need replacing?

I have read that they should be replaced every so many miles, but there
comes a time when I just know the shoes are shot.  I can tell because my
feet and legs are just more tired when I'm done.  I wore out 5 pair the
year I lost weight.  I have made a couple mistakes being a Thrify Yankee
but have also had $60. shoes that were terrible *for me*.  Sometimes gel
insoles can make a shoe wonderful.  I always needed a lot of support when
I was heavy.  Now I just think it makes sense?

Right now, I'm totally enamored with Reebox Velowalk DMX that I got at TJ
Max for $30.  Once I knew they were the real deal, I went back and got 2
more pair.  Other than my treadmill, shoes are the only money I spend on
exercise.  Oops!  and my beloved iPod <s>

On a hot summer day, stopping at the village landing and soaking the feet
in the cold salt water is very nice!

Keep walking, J.J.!!

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J.J. in WA State - 18 Mar 2004 18:27 GMT
Hark! I heard SnugBear <snugNObear@midmaine.com> say:

> >  The question is: how does
> > one know when their walking shoes need replacing?
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> insoles can make a shoe wonderful.  I always needed a lot of support when
> I was heavy.  Now I just think it makes sense?

Yup, I'm with you. Thanks for the input; I hope to go shoe shopping
this weekend.

> Right now, I'm totally enamored with Reebox Velowalk DMX that I got at TJ
> Max for $30.  Once I knew they were the real deal, I went back and got 2
> more pair.  Other than my treadmill, shoes are the only money I spend on
> exercise.  Oops!  and my beloved iPod <s>

I have a Rio Sport mp3 player -- I can't walk without it! Well, slight
exaggeration, one time I didn't realize the battery was dead until I was
already at my walking trail. I went without the music (hard rock/heavy
metal), but I didn't enjoy it as much. ;-)

> On a hot summer day, stopping at the village landing and soaking the feet
> in the cold salt water is very nice!

I'm sooo jealous -- we used to live on a large body of salt water, and I
loved it. I'm hoping we can retire there someday.

> Keep walking, J.J.!!

Thanks for the encouragement, Laurie!

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SnugBear - 18 Mar 2004 20:39 GMT
> I have a Rio Sport mp3 player -- I can't walk without it! Well, slight
> exaggeration, one time I didn't realize the battery was dead until I
> was already at my walking trail. I went without the music (hard
> rock/heavy metal), but I didn't enjoy it as much. ;-)

It's just not the same without music.  My battery died right at the
midpoint of a 5 mile loop last week and I was not a happy camper, uhh,
walker.  The last song that had been playing was stuck in my head for
2.5 miles.  grrrrrrr

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MH - 25 Mar 2004 04:33 GMT
> > I have a Rio Sport mp3 player -- I can't walk without it! Well, slight
> > exaggeration, one time I didn't realize the battery was dead until I
> > was already at my walking trail. I went without the music (hard
> > rock/heavy metal), but I didn't enjoy it as much. ;-)

Woohoo! Another headbanger! Metal is my favorite. I don't walk anywhere
without my discman. Right now I'm reviewing the latest promos for my website
(www.bastmagazine.com) so, I've been swamped hearing the good and the bad.
Although I did take a break on my walk tonight and listened to Opeth's
"Blackwater Park" which is my favorite CD on the planet. : )

Martha
Lisa Holmberg - 19 Mar 2004 00:01 GMT
> A few years ago, I went to see a podiatrist because my feet
> were cramped and sore, especially where the toe meets the foot
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> seem to be getting harder, less springy, and my feet are getting
> sore again sometimes.

Sounds to me like your shoes are done.  I would definately recommend
getting a new pair ASAP.

> Do I need new shoes, and if so, is there a brand you really
> like or should I stick with what I've been using? Or, should
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> pampering; they've been carrying a big load for the last 10
> years. ;-)

If your not sure what shoes to get, it's a good idea to take your old
ones and go to a store that specializes in athletic shoes.  They can
tell by the bottom of your shoe if you need certain kinds of support.

My own experience has taught me that my feet are certainly worth every
penny I spend on them.  I have very flat feet.  For a long time I just
wore Nikes, any old pair I thought was cute.  I was always getting
blisters and my heals often hurt.  I even ended up needing physical
therapy for my knee because of my flat feet.

My physical therapist suggested I get fitted at a running shoe store.
My work outs have been heaven since I got a good pair of running
shoes.  I still am amazed that buying new shoes doesn't involve
getting blisters! Don't let the name running shoe decive you, they
will work for walking too!

Best of luck to you.  

Lisa
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Perple Gyrl - 19 Mar 2004 05:45 GMT
> My physical therapist suggested I get fitted at a running shoe store.
> My work outs have been heaven since I got a good pair of running
> shoes.  I still am amazed that buying new shoes doesn't involve
> getting blisters! Don't let the name running shoe decive you, they
> will work for walking too!

That is a great idea, I never thought of doing that.  What brand do you use
now?  I am quite happy with my New Balance now.  I also get running shoes.
I used to wear Nike before I heard about New Balance.  I am very glad I
switched.

> Best of luck to you.
>
> Lisa
> 190/170/145
Lisa Holmberg - 19 Mar 2004 16:56 GMT
> That is a great idea, I never thought of doing that.  What brand do you use
> now?  I am quite happy with my New Balance now.  I also get running shoes.
> I used to wear Nike before I heard about New Balance.  I am very glad I
> switched.

I wear adidas.  They make one of the lightest shoes for overpronators
(flat footed folks).  I wear them for all sorts of exercise, from
hiking to walking to using the elliptical machine.  Recently, I've
even had to wear them daily, since I had a foot injury.  They've been
great.  But the minute the cushion wears out you feel the difference.

Lisa
Perple Gyrl - 20 Mar 2004 05:37 GMT
I've been wearing my New Balances 608's since I started exercising.  They
are still comfy as hell and I work them hard on the treadmill, elliptical,
etc... I just want to get a new pair because the tread is wearing down a bit
now, not due to losing comfort.

"Lisa Holmberg"

> I wear adidas.  They make one of the lightest shoes for overpronators
> (flat footed folks).  I wear them for all sorts of exercise, from
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>
> Lisa
Mohammed Bhimji - 21 Mar 2004 16:08 GMT
Hi,

I replace my walking shoes (actually, I bought cross trainers on the
recommendation of the store I bought my shoes from) every 6 months to 1
year.  I use them quite a bit, so wear them out just as quickly.  I usually
keep them around for grass cutting and other stuff around the house/yard.

I don't know if there is a rule of thumb, but 6 months - 1 year has usually
been the max for my shoes.

Mohammed

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> This question is aimed at Laurie because she walks so much, but
> anyone else is free to chime in too. The question is: how does
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> Thanks for any advice...
 
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