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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / March 2004Not a different species anymore
I was watching TV the other day and thinking that I look nearly as good as such and such woman in a certain scene. Suddenly I had a clear memory of how I used to see women on TV when I was obese. I felt like they were a completely different species than I was. There were TV women and then there were fat wives/mothers like me, and we weren't even the same species. Now, granted, I was fooling myself that I looked nearly as good as the woman on the TV, but I'm now the older, more war-torn version of that woman, i.e., I'm the same species again. Does this make any sense to anyone? I'm so relieved to be down 65 pounds! Dally 244/179/170 > I was watching TV the other day and thinking that I look nearly as good > as such and such woman in a certain scene. Suddenly I had a clear [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Dally > 244/179/170 It makes perfect sense to me. Congrats on the fantastic loss - you're closing in on that final number. Do you think you'll stay at 170 or wait until you get there and determine if your body fat% is what you want? If you decide to do the tummy tuck how much fat do you think that will remove? It should certainly help to lower your bf%. I've never felt like I was a different species but I find it hard to fit into my age group. I don't see anything strange about a 61 year old woman exercsing, doing 30+ mile bike rides, etc. I'm finding that none of my friends in my age group are anywhere near my physical condition. I still get together with six of my girlfriends from grade school and not a one of them is capable of riding a bike over a couple of miles. The majority of women at Curves are younger than me. I seldom date because most of the old farts my age just want to do dinner and a movie. If you suggest biking or hiking they grab their heart and gasp! Beverly >>Dally >>244/179/170 > > Do you think you'll stay at 170 or wait > until you get there and determine if your body fat% is what you want? I'm really aiming for 23% body fat much more than a specific weight. (But I bet you guessed that.) :-) I'm coming out at around 130 lean right now. If my LBM drops I'll have to drop my target weight. I'm going for a caliper measurement in a week or two and I may get unhappy news about my tape measure method. Although my waist and above looks quite reasonable, my a.s and thighs are just a horror. I feel like I'm wearing lots of little lumpy hot water bottles glued to my thighs. Some of this is loose skin, but some of it is a still substantial store of fat leftover from my first pregnancy (she's a teen-ager) and my freshmen ten and the year I was sixteen and sat out a sports season with an injury and gained ten pounds that season. Honestly, I don't know how much progress I can make against this, so trying to look like I'm 16 again isn't really my goal. :) > If > you decide to do the tummy tuck how much fat do you think that will remove? > It should certainly help to lower your bf%. Actually, quite probably none. Liposuction is a different procedure. I need my abdominal bands (the rectus abdominus) to be tightened. They got stretched and never rejoined after the pregnancy that ended in a c-section. Some skin would be incised, but the amount of subcutaneous fat on my belly isn't worth liposuctioning out. The amount hanging out is mostly lots of excess skin - you can fling it around, fold it, smoosh it... it's nearly empty. It's slightly bisected and it reminds me mostly of two balls of pizza dough. Have I mentioned lately that I hate my belly? > I've never felt like I was a different species but I find it hard to fit > into my age group. That's an interesting point. > I seldom date because most of the old > farts my age just want to do dinner and a movie. If you suggest biking or > hiking they grab their heart and gasp! The guys you date don't want to do ANY active things? Definitely keep trying. :-) Dally My boss is 54, exercises daily and has an incredible figure and face that most people envy. She is 5'7, size 4-6 with a fit hourglass figure. She looks and acts like she is 30. She recently started dating again and can't stand men her own age. She says none of them take care of themselves and act/look like old men. She is now looking at dating guys in their 30's. Trust me, she gets asked out by much younger men, but has been trying to date in her age group. Her last serious boyfriend a few years ago was about 17 yrs younger then her. "Dally" <dally@myself.com> wrote in message news:c38cn1 > The guys you date don't want to do ANY active things? Definitely keep > trying. :-) > > Dally >My boss is 54, exercises daily and has an incredible figure and face that >most people envy. She is 5'7, size 4-6 with a fit hourglass figure. She [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >date in her age group. Her last serious boyfriend a few years ago was about >17 yrs younger then her. My cousin is in his 50's, runs every day and looks younger than his son who is in his 20.'s but is a bit overweight and does not exercise at all. > It makes perfect sense to me. Congrats on the fantastic loss - you're > closing in on that final number. Do you think you'll stay at 170 or wait [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > farts my age just want to do dinner and a movie. If you suggest biking or > hiking they grab their heart and gasp! Then date younger men! I'm 45...screw the guys my age. I have nothing in common with them. Besides, most of them are looking for either younger women or women who'll be subservient to them. Whatever, not my thing, I bow to no one. Most of my boyfriends have been younger than me. Martha You go, girl!! Perple... who has a husband that is 15 months younger!! :) "MH" <bastzine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in > Then date younger men! I'm 45...screw the guys my age. I have nothing in > common with them. Besides, most of them are looking for either younger women > or women who'll be subservient to them. Whatever, not my thing, I bow to no > one. Most of my boyfriends have been younger than me. > > Martha > I was watching TV the other day and thinking that I look nearly as good > as such and such woman in a certain scene. Suddenly I had a clear > memory of how I used to see women on TV when I was obese. I felt like > they were a completely different species than I was. There were TV > women and then there were fat wives/mothers like me, and we weren't even > the same species. Congratulations. I feel the same. I thought that slim people were different schedules. i > > I was watching TV the other day and thinking that I look nearly as good > > as such and such woman in a certain scene. Suddenly I had a clear [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Congratulations. I feel the same. I thought that slim people were > different schedules. What? Elise > i Reminds me of a "game" that my sister and I have played for years while out shopping and running errands. We see someone we feel is attractive or unattractive and then we compare them to ourselves, sometimes the comments were not so flattering for either party. Lately though I have been noting that *I* fall into the Normal category instead of the Extreme. Amazing. Susan 260/199/140 > I was watching TV the other day and thinking that I look nearly as good > as such and such woman in a certain scene. Suddenly I had a clear [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Dally > 244/179/170 >I was watching TV the other day and thinking that I look nearly as good >as such and such woman in a certain scene. Suddenly I had a clear [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Dally >244/179/170 This reminds me a bit of something I was thinking about the other day when I was in a department store shopping for clothes. I used to walk by the Misses department and look at the clothes on the mannequins and think, "Those look like children's clothing. I can't even imagine how they'd fit a normal person." I felt like these clothes were for a different species. And you know what, they don't look tiny any more :-). I can hold a size "medium" sweater and it looks like a nice normal size. (In fact, I was wearing a medium sweater today and thinking it was maybe a bit larger than I'd have preferred.) Chris 262/157/ (holding in 152-165 weight class) I can't wait to get to that point!! "Chris Braun" <braun_chris@mindspring.com> wrote in message > This reminds me a bit of something I was thinking about the other day > when I was in a department store shopping for clothes. I used to walk [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Chris > 262/157/ (holding in 152-165 weight class) >This reminds me a bit of something I was thinking about the other day >when I was in a department store shopping for clothes. I used to walk [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >normal size. (In fact, I was wearing a medium sweater today and >thinking it was maybe a bit larger than I'd have preferred.) What's strange to me is how I've retrained my eye. It was really hard at first to gauge what size I'd wear. What looked normal to me I'd try on and find it was way too big. I'm finally in the other mode. I hold up the sizes I used to wear and my first reaction (to be blunt) is "That's huge!" (Those sizes are not "huge," by the way; intellectually, I know it. But they would look "huge" on me now.) My reaction (and my shift in perception) continues to catch me by surprise. Funny, though. I'll look in the mirror and I'll look fat or I'll look thin -- it depends largely on what I'm wearing, whether my hair is being cooperative, and my mood that day. My eye for clothing may have adjusted, but I still don't have a static self-image. beeswing > What's strange to me is how I've retrained my eye. It was really hard at first > to gauge what size I'd wear. What looked normal to me I'd try on and find it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > My reaction (and my shift in perception) continues to catch me by surprise. Absolutely. I just had a friend from grad school drop by. I had told him that I had lost weight, but I got to wondering if I had lost weight over what I weighed in grad school. I had dieted in grad school for a while and had gotten fairly slender, I recall buying some nice suits in a smaller size. Well, he showed up with pictures. Guess what. I was NOT more slender. Those were size 18 suits. I checked my diet logs, I dieted down to 205 from 215 for a few weeks (before I stopped dieting.) I weighted 25-35 pounds more in grad school than I do now - and I've had more children since then. What I recall as being "slender" was only slightly less cow-ish. By the way, my goal for that diet in 1996 was to get to 173 pounds. Dally 244/179/170 >> What's strange to me is how I've retrained my eye. It was really hard at first >> to gauge what size I'd wear. What looked normal to me I'd try on and find it [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Dally >244/179/170 LOL ... cow-ish. :-) Well, look how far you have come in the past couple years - being more slender than you were in grad school, and certainly not nearly as cow-ish any more. >I hold up the sizes I used to >wear and my first reaction (to be blunt) is "That's huge!" (Those sizes are not >"huge," by the way; intellectually, I know it. But they would look "huge" on me >now.) I have the same reaction. But it makes me feel kind of like a traitor to my old self or something -- or maybe to those who are larger-sized. Anyway, I feel sort of guilty when I find myself saying this to myself. Chris I feel the same way but to a different degree... I put on those old 26/28s from 7 mos ago and they are HUGE on me. I look forward to my 16's getting huge on me too. I find myself wearing more form fitting clothes now. > >I hold up the sizes I used to > >wear and my first reaction (to be blunt) is "That's huge!" (Those sizes are not [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Chris >I feel the same way but to a different degree... I put on those old 26/28s >from 7 mos ago and they are HUGE on me. I look forward to my 16's getting >huge on me too. I find myself wearing more form fitting clothes now These days, for the first time ever, I actually have some shirts that skim my body. They aren't tight, by any means, but they are "form fitting," as you say. I used to be embarrassed and ashamed to wear anything like that; I would have felt awkward, like I needed to spend the whole day with my arms clasped tight over my chest. And, for that matter, the first two times I did wear a shirt like that, I did feel awkward -- even though I *knew* I didn't look bad. About a month ago and probably a year after I bought that first form-fitting shirt, I bought a new spring top without really concerning myself about its form-fitting-ness: I just liked how it looked on me. I tried it on for my husband when I got home. His response? "Curves! My sweetie has curves!" I'd been pleased with how the shirt fit myself, and his comments just made me happier. There was a time not so long ago that I would have pulled that shirt off and hid it in the deepest depth of my closet, swearing never to wear it again. I like the change in myself. It's less of a physical change than an attitudinal one, if ya know what I mean. But the weight loss helped me get there. beeswing That is wonderful! Please refresh my memory... what size were you and what size are you now?? After shopping today, I discovered that I had bought many more form fitting clothes. I didn't get them skin tight, but they weren't potato sacky either. "beeswing" <beeswing@aol.com> wrote in > These days, for the first time ever, I actually have some shirts that skim my > body. They aren't tight, by any means, but they are "form fitting," as you say. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > beeswing >That is wonderful! Please refresh my memory... what size were you and what >size are you now?? > >After shopping today, I discovered that I had bought many more form fitting >clothes. I didn't get them skin tight, but they weren't potato sacky >either. I'm 5 ft 3 in, and my top weight was 178. My lowest weight was 106 to 108, and I'm currently hovering around 110. I need to get a little more on track to make sure that that my weight *stays* where it is; while I've been happy enough with my current weight, I wouldn't want it to creep any higher. I actually bought my first ever -- I don't know, what would you call it? -- negligee? teddy? yesterday. Never in a million years could I have imagined I'd want to own one...or that I'd look anything less than ridiculous in it. I looked in the store mirror and was pleased with what I saw. It was so much *fun.* beeswing It's hard to believe, but I wrote: >I actually bought my first ever -- I don't know, what would you call it? -- >negligee? teddy? yesterday. Though I didn't buy the item there, I went over to the web site for Victoria's Secret to brush up my lingerie terminology. Apparently it's called a "babydoll." It looks better on than the name sounds, that's all I gotta say. ;) beeswing Cool! What did your husband think? You are so petite now. I feel huge after reading your stats! "beeswing" > It's hard to believe, but I wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > beeswing >Cool! What did your husband think? He was surprised (which he covered up very well -- until I asked him point blank) but didn't complain any. I on the other hand needed constant reassurance -- it was pretty pathetic on my part. But the idea is growing on me, and I'm happy I got the babydoll. The best thing about the babydoll was the V of lace that went across the middle, slenderizing and covering up the part of my tummy that is Not My Best Feature. I'm learning to dress around my "flaws," and that in itself makes a big difference both in how I look and how I feel. >You are so petite now. I feel huge >after reading your stats! You've made so much progress. From your stats, you aren't "huge," as you write...but I'm guessing that your body image hasn't caught up with that. Be proud of what you've done. You are doing absolutely great. I'm still not petite, believe it or not. I have the extra tummy fat/extra tummy skin thing going on like so many of us do. For the longest while after losing the weight, I was half-considering a tummy tuck. I've adjusted to my new body now, though, and even though it doesn't thrill me I can accept it as mine. Thanks for your support! Best wishes. beeswing "beeswing" > He was surprised (which he covered up very well -- until I asked him point > blank) but didn't complain any. I on the other hand needed constant reassurance > -- it was pretty pathetic on my part. But the idea is growing on me, and I'm > happy I got the babydoll. I am sure that he was happy you got it too! > The best thing about the babydoll was the V of lace that went across the > middle, slenderizing and covering up the part of my tummy that is Not My Best [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > write...but I'm guessing that your body image hasn't caught up with that. Be > proud of what you've done. You are doing absolutely great. Thanks! > I'm still not petite, believe it or not. I have the extra tummy fat/extra tummy > skin thing going on like so many of us do. For the longest while after losing > the weight, I was half-considering a tummy tuck. I've adjusted to my new body > now, though, and even though it doesn't thrill me I can accept it as mine. My tummy is going to be removed, I am positive. I had much more weight to lose then you did and I don't want to spend the rest of my life with a hanging belly. > Thanks for your support! Best wishes. Thank you too! > beeswing "Perple Gyrl" wrote : > I find myself wearing more form fitting clothes now. Because it feels great! I pull on those low rise Old Navy jeans that fit me like a glove, *tuck in* my shirt, buckle my belt and think "Yep - this is good" <s>  SignatureWalking on . . . Laurie in Maine 207/110 60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 > "Perple Gyrl" wrote : > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I pull on those low rise Old Navy jeans that fit me like a glove, *tuck in* > my shirt, buckle my belt and think "Yep - this is good" <s> I still wear plenty of XL polo shirts... too cheap to buy enough new M sized ones. i Ignoramus21235 wrote : > I still wear plenty of XL polo shirts... too cheap to buy enough new M > sized ones. I saved 2 T-shirts to sleep in and gave the stuff that was too good to throw away to my husband. He doesn't seem to mind wearing the *huge* clothes. Once in awhile I recognize that they used to be mine and just shake my head in amazement. He looks odd in purple <g> All my transitional clothing was from yardsales or the second hand shop and I'm handing it down to 2 friends who are losing weight now. It's cool. Don't think I'm not cheap though. I had so few new clothes when I was fat, I deserved all the new ones when I reached my goal. SignatureWalking on . . . Laurie in Maine 207/110 60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 I'm still eager to find out what it feels like to tuck in a shirt. That is something I haven't done in years! "SnugBear" <snugNObear@midmaine.com> > I pull on those low rise Old Navy jeans that fit me like a glove, *tuck in* > my shirt, buckle my belt and think "Yep - this is good" <s> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 207/110 60 inches of attitude! > Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 >I'm still eager to find out what it feels like to tuck in a shirt. That is >something I haven't done in years! It is a defining moment. Very strange. I loved it...once I adjusted. You'll be tucking very soon I think, Perple. beeswing Not that soon, as the weight is creeping so freaking slowly off of me now. I am fine with that as long as it is still coming off and not coming back on. "beeswing" > You'll be tucking very soon I think, Perple. > > beeswing > I have the same reaction. But it makes me feel kind of like a traitor > to my old self or something -- or maybe to those who are larger-sized. > Anyway, I feel sort of guilty when I find myself saying this to > myself. I go through the same thing. When I was in size-24 jeans, I'd feel irritated whenever I saw someone in a diet ad or talk-show segment holding up a pair of pants in my size, gasping "*this* is my old size! I used to be *gigantic*!" Now, my size-8's are already fitting a bit loosely, and if I put on 12's I swim in them. It's amazing how our perceptions change according to our own body shape. -- Belphoebe >I go through the same thing. When I was in size-24 jeans, I'd feel >irritated whenever I saw someone in a diet ad or talk-show segment holding >up a pair of pants in my size, gasping "*this* is my old size! I used to be >*gigantic*!" Now, my size-8's are already fitting a bit loosely, and if I >put on 12's I swim in them. It's amazing how our perceptions change >according to our own body shape. Do you still get irritated if someone gasps at your old size of pants? It's okay, somehow, for me to term my old size "huge," but if someone else does it... Sometimes people can't win with me. I'm pleased to have my new size acknowledged, but I don't want anyone to even suggest that I was too big before. Ironic, eh? beeswing It is understandable. It sounds like you are scared that you may gain it back someday. In case that happened, you would be depressed thinking that everyone thought you were huge. I could be totally off-base, but it was just a thought. "beeswing" <beeswing@aol.com> wrote in > Sometimes people can't win with me. I'm pleased to have my new size > acknowledged, but I don't want anyone to even suggest that I was too big > before. Ironic, eh? > > beeswing >It is understandable. It sounds like you are scared that you may gain it >back someday. In case that happened, you would be depressed thinking that >everyone thought you were huge. >I could be totally off-base, but it was just a thought. It's not that I think I'm going to gain it back. It's that I cringe when I remember back on all the years that I sailed through at that weight without even giving it a second thought. I hate to think that those people were looking at me and seeing *me* as huge...just like that pair of pants or that shirt looks so big to me now. It sounds stupid, but it never registered with me that I was fat, only that I was getting bigger and bigger. Only in retrospect, when I started dropping the weight, could I see how out of hand my weight and size had gotten. beeswing In article <20040319104638.01139.00000025@mb-m02.aol.com>, > It sounds stupid, but it never registered with me that I > was fat, only that I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > beeswing Oh--that's not stupid at all!! I never acknowledged how much weight I had gained. I think I refused to see myself as large--even though I couldn't fit into my clothes anymore, I wheezed all of the time from carrying the extra weight around, my husband was less than thrilled with my body (though he kept his mouth shut), I weighed more than I did when I was nine-months pregnant, and a myriad of other ignored signs that I was approaching obesity. A couple of things that shocked me into reality: a comment from a friend of my husbands ("no wonder you're so fat, cooking like this.") and from a coworker ("so, when are you due?"). I had to take a good, long, hard look at myself, the way I felt, the way I acted, and what was causing my obsession with food. Boy, that was not easy. So no, ignoring the extra weight is the easy part. Accepting the fact that you're obese and need to make changes is what's hard. Amy 168/116 Ya know, when I got married we wore matching Hawaiin shirts. They were both size Mens Big and Tall 2XL. At the time of our wedding, my shirt was snug on me and his fit fine. My hubby is 6'3", 270 lbs and wears size 2XL Tall. His shirts are HUGE on me now. Looking at his clothes and him, it shocks me that I was bigger then he was once. 284/210/199 @ 5'9.25" "A Ross" > Oh--that's not stupid at all!! I never acknowledged how > much weight I had gained. I think I refused to see [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > 168/116 I got married in July a month before I started my new WOL... my wedding ring size has dropped 1.5 sizes already from a 9.5 to an 8. As I've said in other posts, I am large boned and sturdy. I've always had big hands for a woman, but they don't look huge on me. I need to get it resized, but am waiting of course. I am finding it hard to register that I am not as huge anymore! I don't believe people when they tell me I look great. "beeswing" > It sounds stupid, but it never registered with me that I was fat, only that I > was getting bigger and bigger. Only in retrospect, when I started dropping the > weight, could I see how out of hand my weight and size had gotten. > > beeswing > I don't > believe people when they tell me I look great. Believe it! What do they have to gain by lying to you? Don't you *feel* great? That makes you *look* great! SignatureWalking on . . . Laurie in Maine 207/110 60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 I know I know I know! I just don't see it, although I do feel better! Today for instance, I went for a massage. The girl that was giving it to me and I were talking about clothes. I found out that she was an 18/20 and I told her that she couldn't be... that 18/20s were too big on me and she wasn't that big. She kinda stopped kneading a minute and said that I was not. It was weird. "SnugBear" > Believe it! What do they have to gain by lying to you? Don't you > *feel* great? That makes you *look* great! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 207/110 60 inches of attitude! > Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 > Do you still get irritated if someone gasps at your old size of pants? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > acknowledged, but I don't want anyone to even suggest that I was too > big before. Ironic, eh? I so know what you mean. It's sort of like having a sibling you tease, but no one else better try it. :) I suppose I'm somewhat schizoid about it now. I can see someone holding up the old size and think "that's huge," but if the person makes such a comment, I'll be thinking, "Hey, shut up!" :-p -- Belphoebe >I have the same reaction. But it makes me feel kind of like a traitor >to my old self or something -- or maybe to those who are larger-sized. >Anyway, I feel sort of guilty when I find myself saying this to >myself. Exactly. bees I can't really identify with this yet. However, I've been looking at my wedding pics from July, before WOL. I am shocked that I was so huge. I get glimpses in mirrors sometimes and I don't recognize myself. I feel like I don't stand out as much and fit in better. It is great. "Dally" <dally@myself.com> wrote in message news:c384a6$254fd9 > Does this make any sense to anyone? I'm so relieved to be down 65 pounds! > > Dally > 244/179/170 I never really paid attention to TV folks because I believe in the magic of Hollywood. Anyone can look good with the right lights, make-up, cameras, etc. What I do notice is that when I come across my reflection accidentally, such as at a mall or other public place, I am no longer surprised and embarrassed at what I see. Granted, I have not lost as much weight as you but I am not nearly as tall as you. j > I was watching TV the other day and thinking that I look nearly as good > as such and such woman in a certain scene. Suddenly I had a clear [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Dally > 244/179/170 "Julianne" wrote : > I never really paid attention to TV folks because I believe in the > magic of Hollywood. Anyone can look good with the right lights, > make-up, cameras, etc. Yes! sort of <g> When the rags would write about how *big* Delta Burke had gotten I'd wonder - "But what *size* does she wear really?" For all I could tell she was 12 instead of 8 ??? I almost always thought she looked beautiful. I did know that I wasn't a 12 though! NOW, I look at Susan Lucci and wonder if she wears size 0 or 00? (I know - it's magic!) SignatureWalking on . . . Laurie in Maine 207/110 60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 Hark! I heard SnugBear <snugNObear@midmaine.com> say: <snip> Ya know Laurie, your handle has been sparking my interest since I joined this group last month -- are you the same Snugbear from the eBay group? I used to post there a lot, pre-Fall of 2000... SignatureJ.J. in WA State (251/240/150) J.J. in WA State: > Ya know Laurie, your handle has been sparking my interest since I > joined this group last month -- are you the same Snugbear from the > eBay group? I used to post there a lot, pre-Fall of 2000... That would be me <g>. There are several amoe refugees posting to asd. I hadn't recognized you though! SignatureWalking on . . . Laurie in Maine 207/110 60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 > J.J. in WA State: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > That would be me <g>. There are several amoe refugees posting to asd. I > hadn't recognized you though! I used to post to alt.marketing.online.ebay also... I created a small webpage http://ef.algebra.com that is an alternative ebay front page. All searches in one place, no ads, javascript and annoying graphics. i >> J.J. in WA State: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >i LOL, I also had a stint a little over a year ago where I was posting to amoe. > I used to post to alt.marketing.online.ebay also... I created a small > webpage [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > that is an alternative ebay front page. All searches in one place, no > ads, javascript and annoying graphics. I guess it's time for me to thank you Igor - I used your page long ago to create my own homepage resident on my computer. (I had to add additional links and make mine *pretty* though <g>) I prolly owe you royalties or something. The Search by Seller doesn't seem to work anymore though :-/ Anyway, thanks <s> SignatureWalking on . . . Laurie in Maine 207/110 60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 >> I used to post to alt.marketing.online.ebay also... I created a small >> webpage [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Anyway, thanks <s> Hey, I am glad that you liked it. The page was meant to be copied to people's computers. i > I never really paid attention to TV folks because I believe in the magic of > Hollywood. Anyone can look good with the right lights, make-up, cameras, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > j I have a different take. I starved myself for years trying to be perfect. Of course, I never did become perfect. But, at my most underweight, men found me my most attractive. I was starving, at times not eating for three days, and men went gaga over me. I would run, lift weights, work out, whatever, and not eat, and men thought I was wonderful. I had blazing headaches, was completely a basketcase when it came to my body and how I felt. Nobody, unless they are completely brainless or 100% self confident (and therefore in oblivion as no person is perfect) feels they are part of the *In Crowd*. The *In Crowd* is the least confident group of people there is. Why do you think they get the most plastic surgery? : ) And believe me, I was too busy with what was happened to *me* to think of those who were overweight as another species. That's too cruel to think about and too cruel to others, so I'm really sorry you thought of yourself in that light, that saddens me. Martha > I was watching TV the other day and thinking that I look nearly as good > as such and such woman in a certain scene. Suddenly I had a clear > memory of how I used to see women on TV when I was obese. I felt like All I can say, is wow. I'm so glad you feel that way and I hope I will feel that way one day too. Since I am male, it's THAT physique I feel a different species from (not the ladies :)), but the problem is, is that I'm so ANGRY that I'll never look like that, that I don't even bother looking at those guys on TV any more, I just turn my head in sorrow or blur my eyes. 244/179/170 is pretty amazing. I feel like I'm stuck at 153, and every day I go on, I'm more and more scared to get on the scale, because what if all this time, I'm actually going back up :(. I don't know what I would do if I'm above 155 next week. I've been doing everything the same...but I just find my weight loss starting to slow down. You, on the other hand, have had much better luck. That is a lot of lbs you have lots. Congrats... I pray so hard that I will see myself like those people on TV too, and not have to look away anymore...soon... :( Mark 182/153/145 > All I can say, is wow. I'm so glad you feel that way and I hope I will feel > that way one day too. Hope isn't enough. If what you're doing now isn't working for you, you have to do something different. > Since I am male, it's THAT physique I feel a different > species from (not the ladies :)), but the problem is, is that I'm so ANGRY > that I'll never look like that, that I don't even bother looking at those > guys on TV any more, I just turn my head in sorrow or blur my eyes. Anger isn't enough. Look at what got you over-fat. Stop doing that. > I don't know what I would do if I'm above 155 next week. I've been doing > everything the same...but I just find my weight loss starting to slow down. Stop doing everything the same. Change it until it works for you. > You, on the other hand, have had much better luck. That is a lot of lbs you > have lots. Congrats... It wasn't luck. It took me until I was 38 to figure out how to treat my body. It turns out I had to eat balanced meals of appropriate portions and exercise regularly. Who knew? > I pray so hard that I will see myself like those people on TV too, and not > have to look away anymore...soon... :( Praying isn't enough. What you have to do is change how and what you eat and change how and when you exercise and change how and when you sleep and change how and when you drink. That's all. When you actually decide you're willing to do what it takes to lose weight, then you can do it. Until then, you're just kicking yourself around. There's nothing wrong with being fat, plenty of people choose to be fat. I have no objection whatsoever to that choice for others. But I chose not to be fat anymore and so I did what it takes to STOP being fat. Honestly, that was the crux of it. Are you willing to change to stop being fat? Or would you rather choose to be fat? The power is completely in your hands. > Mark > 182/153/145 Dally |
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