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Healthy Stealthy ; - 22 Mar 2004 03:22 GMT
I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!! Why can't I get
back into shape!!!!!!!!
Ignoramus1871 - 22 Mar 2004 03:35 GMT
> I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
> don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!! Why can't I get
> back into shape!!!!!!!!

maybe you don't really want to lose fat, that's why.

i
That T Woman - 22 Mar 2004 03:37 GMT
> I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
> don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!! Why can't I get
> back into shape!!!!!!!!

You just stated why you can't get in shape:  you don't eat right, you don't
exercise (can't spell) and you're lazy.  You have to change that.  You can
make gradual changes that won't "kill" you by following this plan to reform
your eating habits:

http://www.dolfzine.com/page590.htm

As for the lazy part, you have to analyze why you won't do what you know you
need to do.  Lots of people here have lost a lot more than the 23-28 pounds
you want to lose.  We got off our butts and went for a walk.  Some of us
bought gym memberships and go workout.  We do it.  We bike, hike, run, ski,
swim, lift weights and on and on.  We find something that we enjoy or at
least we enjoy the benefits it brings enough to make the effort worthwhile.

So either you'll give yourself a kick in the rear that gets you going or you
won't.  What's it going to be?

Tonia
alien - 22 Mar 2004 03:56 GMT
>> I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
>> again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
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>
> Tonia

Amen. Nothing left to do but do it.

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155 lbs gone forever!!
---------------
starting  365
current   210
goal      200
hieght    6'3"
27 male

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Healthy Stealthy ; - 22 Mar 2004 14:59 GMT
> > I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> > again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
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>
> Tonia

Tonia I did join a gym. I did try to eat right. But I can't lose
weight anymore!!! Ever since I reached a certain age IT JUST DOES NOT
COME OFF!!!!  I AM SO DISGUSTED WITH MYSELF!!!! I HATE HAVING THIS FAT
GUT!!!
Sorry for the spelling error.
Julianne - 22 Mar 2004 15:07 GMT
> > > I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> > > again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> GUT!!!
> Sorry for the spelling error.

Well, it looks like you have done everything you were supposed to do.  Alas,
it is not your fault.  You most likely have a 'slow metabolism' or
something.

j
That T Woman - 22 Mar 2004 18:14 GMT
> > "That T Woman" <ThatT@notyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:<105skb4rogemma3@corp.supernews.com>...
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>
> j

Julianne's messing with you.  It *is* so much your fault still.  So, you
"joined" a gym.  Did you actually lift any weights and work up a sweat doing
cardio or did you sit on a recumbent bike and peddle at 1 mph while reading
a magazine for a bit and then leave if you bothered to show up at all?  You
"tried" to eat right.  Did you read any books on nutrition/dieting and try
to follow a plan that seems sensible to you or did you just think that if
you ate a salad once in a while instead of a big mac that the weight would
come off?   Most of us have had to experiment with our way of eating (WOE)
before we figured out what was right for us that would cause the weight to
come off slowly.  Some do low-carb, others just do sugar-free and low
calorie.  BTW, the level of calories that you should be consumed should be
8-10x your current weight to lose.  I have to do 8x because of my age/female
state.  Start at 10x and adjust downward after a week or so if you didn't
lose a pound.

Just how old are you?  No matter how old you are, I'm sure there is someone
here who is older and is losing weight or has lost down to their goal
weight.  I'm 45++ and it's not easy at all when you're sliding into the
change but I've lost 30 pounds in the last six months which was my mini-goal
and will lose another 30 in the coming 5-1/2 months and then the last 30
pounds in the six months after that.

Stick around and you'll learn something.  Better yet do a google and read
back a few months of older posts.  I think that you'll find that we struggle
with the same issues that you have but we don't give up and we figure out
how to overcome our obstacles.

Good luck,
Tonia
Ignoramus11750 - 22 Mar 2004 15:08 GMT
>> > I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
>> > again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
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> GUT!!!
> Sorry for the spelling error.

so, what do you want from us?

i
Dally - 22 Mar 2004 18:53 GMT
>>Tonia I did join a gym. I did try to eat right. But I can't lose
>>weight anymore!!! Ever since I reached a certain age IT JUST DOES NOT
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>
> so, what do you want from us?

Good question.  My guess is a lot of stuff.

a.) A magic answer to fat-loss.
    Sorry, we know it but won't tell you.

b.) Permission to be fat.
    Okay, you have permission.

c.) Support for over-eating and being lazy.
    Go to alt.support.fat-acceptance, that's the place for you.

d.) Trolling
    Here's your thread.

HTH

Dally
That T Woman - 22 Mar 2004 19:20 GMT
> >>Tonia I did join a gym. I did try to eat right. But I can't lose
> >>weight anymore!!! Ever since I reached a certain age IT JUST DOES NOT
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>
> Dally

So he's a lazy, fat guy with a bald spot, bad temper, unhappy marriage, God
doesn't answer his prayers to meet Paul McCartney who slept through the
World History class where they discussed the fate of Napoleon.  Why would
you not want someone like that to grace us with his presence. ;-)  He and
OceanView would be the last men on Earth, if they were the only men on Earth
and the rest of us were women!  Is there a loser factory working over-time
somewhere?  Hey, there's your job opportunity, OV!  Yeah, now I'm just being
mean.  Where's my cattle prod?   I could get these guys to shape up!

Tonia
OceanView - 23 Mar 2004 01:50 GMT
>> > In article <8898fc46.0403220559.1878de2e@posting.google.com>,
>> > Healthy
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>
> Tonia

The only "losers" are people like you who put other people down.

Just for the record, a woman I knew told me yesterday, "You've lost
a lot of weight!"

I'm not going to waste my time with trolls, so if you're intent on
being that way, you'll go plonk and I'll communicate with people
who take this stuff seriously.
OceanView - 23 Mar 2004 01:45 GMT
Dally <dally@myself.com> wrote in news:c3n97u$282h57$1@ID-
217902.news.uni-berlin.de:

> a.) A magic answer to fat-loss.
>      Sorry, we know it but won't tell you.

I Knew it!  Those $153 pills DO work, don't they!
Chrys - 22 Mar 2004 16:42 GMT
> Tonia I did join a gym. I did try to eat right. But I can't lose
> weight anymore!!! Ever since I reached a certain age IT JUST DOES NOT
> COME OFF!!!!  I AM SO DISGUSTED WITH MYSELF!!!! I HATE HAVING THIS FAT
> GUT!!!
> Sorry for the spelling error.

There's the problem.  Joining a gym doesn't imply you actually went and
did the work you needed to do and trying to eat right doesn't imply you
actually did.  There isn't anything anyone here can do to help you.  If
you ever decide to actually find any motivation, then you'll succeed.
Julianne - 22 Mar 2004 04:50 GMT
Because you don't eat right or exercise!

The bigger question is why?

I have a confession. I am lazy, too.  The thing is, over the years I have
learned that working out is worth the effort.  I may have very little energy
initially if I have gone without working out for a period of time but when I
am in shape, I have more energy than ever.  And it really doesn't take more
than two weeks to really start noticing the added energy of a daily workout!

One thing to note:  As long as you regard yourself as pathetic, you will be
pathetic.  When you mention that you just can't do it, you are convincing no
one but yourself.

I would love to see you hang out around here and come to a different
approach to weight loss and health.  You will never succeed with a
fatalistic attitude.  Come up with something more reasonable and you might
be surprised at the folks who get behind you and push you across the finish
line!

j
> I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
> don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!! Why can't I get
> back into shape!!!!!!!!
Dally - 22 Mar 2004 07:16 GMT
> I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
> don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!!

> Why can't I get back into shape!!!!!!!!

Because you don't actually want to.  You know what you have to do if you
choose to stop being fat.  No one is stopping you but yourself.  When/if
you want to do it you've got all the tools.

Since you haven't decided to eat right or exercise, may I suggest that
you take this over to the fat-acceptance group?  They'll help you feel
more at peace with your decision to stay fat.

Dally
Carol Frilegh - 22 Mar 2004 19:32 GMT
> > I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> > again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
> > don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!!

Well, you've diagnosed the problem. What now?

I suggest

www.fitday.com

It's fun, freeconscious raising and pound lowering.
Heywood Mogroot - 22 Mar 2004 09:13 GMT
> I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
> don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!! Why can't I get
> back into shape!!!!!!!!

cuz you're a troll who doesn't have a life, that's why.

misc.fitness.weights:

"Since I hardly go to the gym because of my darn laziness, I am NOT
going to rejoin for now!!"

alt.support.stop-smoking:

"i need to STOP SMOKING! IT'S KILLING ME!!"

soc.couples.wedding:

"WHY THE HELL DID I GET MARRIED TO SOMEONE WHO THINKS..."

alt.baldspot:

"However, there is a small bald spot in the back of my head. Should I
go see a dermatologist?"

alt.support.anxiety-panic:

"I can't sleep."

rec.music.beatles:

"So who here can give me Sir Paul's phone number?"

soc.religion.christian:

"My question is, why has God not heard the prayers of those praying
for
me, as well as my prayers? "

alt.support.step-parents:

"What can I do to get help? Who can I turn to?  How can I change so I
no longer have a temper.
I DONT' WANT TO DESTROY MY CHILDS LIFE! I WOULD RATHER DIE!
HELP ME!"

alt.fan.howard-stern:

"Bye Howard. I'm so glad to know your idiot show is on its way out."

My favorite, to soc.history.moderated:

"Okay, this is driving my crazy. I heard a radio talk show host say
that Napoleon Bonaparte lived in Hoboken, NJ while he was in exile. I
hardly know anything about Napoleon Bonaparte, so I am asking you
guys. Is this claim true? I can't seem to find anything about it on
the internet."
Jayjay - 22 Mar 2004 19:50 GMT
>I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
>again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
>don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!! Why can't I get
>back into shape!!!!!!!!

Why don't you eat right?
Why don't you exercise?
~Deb~ - 22 Mar 2004 20:40 GMT
> I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
> don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!! Why can't I get
> back into shape!!!!!!!!

Is this a troll?
Heywood Mogroot - 23 Mar 2004 01:01 GMT
> > I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> > again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
> > don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!! Why can't I get
> > back into shape!!!!!!!!
>
> Is this a troll?

See my other post in this thread for more of Healthy Stealthy's life
issues. The guy is a walking disaster zone, or a rather good troll.
~Deb~ - 23 Mar 2004 03:50 GMT
> > > I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> > > again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
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> See my other post in this thread for more of Healthy Stealthy's life
> issues. The guy is a walking disaster zone, or a rather good troll.

I thought so...:))
Healthy Stealthy ; - 23 Mar 2004 04:02 GMT
> > > I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> > > again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> See my other post in this thread for more of Healthy Stealthy's life
> issues. The guy is a walking disaster zone, or a rather good troll.

I really am not a troll, nor am I disaster. I am a successful person
in iife, who just wants to get back down to the pants size I should be
in.  Is that too hard to believe?
Gee wiz.
Healthy Stealthy ; - 23 Mar 2004 04:02 GMT
> > > I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> > > again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> See my other post in this thread for more of Healthy Stealthy's life
> issues. The guy is a walking disaster zone, or a rather good troll.

I really am not a troll, nor am I disaster. I am a successful person
in iife, who just wants to get back down to the pants size I should be
in.  Is that too hard to believe?
Gee wiz.
Healthy Stealthy ; - 23 Mar 2004 04:03 GMT
> > > I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> > > again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> See my other post in this thread for more of Healthy Stealthy's life
> issues. The guy is a walking disaster zone, or a rather good troll.

I really am not a troll, nor am I disaster. I am a successful person
in iife, who just wants to get back down to the pants size I should be
in.  Is that too hard to believe?
Gee wiz.
Paul - 22 Mar 2004 22:50 GMT
Why can't you get back into shape?  Because you don't eat right, exercise,
and you just plain don't want to yet.  Come back when your ready to get real
with the program.  I'm disabled from a flying accident, have much pain while
walking and exercising, but realized I was going to either lay down and die,
or do something about it.  So I decided to do something about it and started
by walking to the end of the block, awhile later made it around the block,
graduated to a mile, then two, then three, and now walk four miles per day
and spend an hour a day using a stairclimber or elliptical machine.  I cut
the junk food out of my life and eat healthy now.  I've lost 96 pounds in
under 7 months and feel like if I can lose the weight then anyone can.  Even
you CAN, it's just that you want to eat wrong and not exercise more than you
want to lose the weight.

When  your ready to get REAL then welcome back to this newsgroup.

Paul
300/204/175

> I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
> don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!! Why can't I get
> back into shape!!!!!!!!
Healthy Stealthy ; - 23 Mar 2004 04:04 GMT
> Why can't you get back into shape?  Because you don't eat right, exercise,
> and you just plain don't want to yet.  Come back when your ready to get real
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> Paul
> 300/204/175

Hey Paul thanks for your inspirational post. I'm serious, it really
inspired me. Thank you!!!
alien - 23 Mar 2004 04:42 GMT
>> Why can't you get back into shape?  Because you don't eat right,
>> exercise, and you just plain don't want to yet.  Come back when your
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Hey Paul thanks for your inspirational post. I'm serious, it really
> inspired me. Thank you!!!

I hope you are genuine when you say that and not just being sarcastic.
Anyway. There is 2 things you can do that will for sure work for you to
get back down to those pants you want to fit into. 1.eat good things. cut
out the junk and just plain eat healthy! 2.EXERCISE. Sure you can lose
weight and not exercise but you will keep it off and lose it faster if
you do exercise. It's really that simple. In just shy of 18 months I have
lost almost 160 lbs! I type it and still don't believe it! There are some
great people here. You don't have to look far to find inspiration and
paul is a very good example. **waves to paul** Some others may seem
harsh, but if you come off with your first post in a manner that rubs
people wrong you may get bashed a little. Just hang in there and keep
posting. YOU CAN DO IT!!!! If I remember corektly :) I was bashed for
spalling and punc'tu'a,tion my first post. ;) And when you're in need of
help and support you really don't want a grammer lesson. ;P

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156 lbs gone forever!!
---------------
starting  365
current   209
goal      200
hieght    6'3"
27 male

NC In Da House
---------------

Kasey - 24 Mar 2004 02:57 GMT
>>I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!! Why can't I get
back into shape!!!!!!!!<<

>>I really am not a troll, nor am I disaster. I am a successful person
in iife, who just wants to get back down to the pants size I should be
in. Is that too hard to believe? Gee wiz.<<

Greetings:

My first thought is someone who posts with excessive exclamation
points and uppercase letters must be a troll, or at least unfamiliar
with Netiquette.

You would do well to lurk in this, or any group, for a while before
posting.

On the chance that you're not a troll, or that someone reading this
thread might truly want to get started on a new WOL, here are my
thoughts. Remember, my advice is worth exactly what you paid for it,
and, as always, YMMV.

>>Ever since I reached a certain age IT JUST DOES NOT COME OFF!!!!<<

You don't say what your "certain age" is. But there are people on this
newsgroup, including me, who are over 50 and are eating healthily,
exercising and losing weight.

Here is one way to start: Record everything you eat. I, like many
people here, rely on fitday.com. Only when you know what and how much
you're consuming can you make changes.

Pinpoint one of your worst excesses and eliminate it. Maybe stop
eating in fast-food restaurants, or give up nondiet sodas or 24-ounce
lattes with whipped cream.

Good luck.

Kasey
365/285/???
Healthy Stealthy ; - 25 Mar 2004 03:27 GMT
> >>I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to
> 170-175
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> Kasey
> 365/285/???

Kasey thank you for the fitday link. I just signed up for it.
I am 43 and probably weight 198. I am fitting into 38 tightly. I
should be in 34 to 38.
Thanks
billydee - 25 Mar 2004 00:13 GMT
> I am so disgusted with myself! I want to get from 198 down to 170-175
> again. BUT I CAN'T !!!  I JUST CAN'T DO IT!!!  I don't eat right. I
> don't excercise!! I am lazy!! I am soooooo pathetic!! Why can't I get
> back into shape!!!!!!!!

You can do it but you won't because you're lazy and stuff your face
with junk. Figure out why and you've got it whupped. Maybe hire a
personal trainer that will come get your lazy butt off of the couch
and make you do somthing.
 
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