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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / March 2004Eat less Live Longer
Amazing results in the effects of eating less on the life span of mice. It seems, although difficult to conduct, that a study on low intake diets and their effect on human lifespan is in order. Although no doubt with all current evidence on obesity and health, results would be very similar. http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/diet.fitness/03/23/diet.long.life.ap/index.html Jade "Stephen R. Spindler of the University of California, Riverside, leader of a team conducting the research, said there is little evidence yet that dietary restrictions will extend human life, ..." I remember some 25-30 years ago, or so, Dr. Roy Walford's "120 year diet" based on his own study of mice on restricted calorie diets. The basis was a max of 1500 a day. I also remember at least one TV station, ABC in the Los Angeles area, doing commercials asking parents to NOT restrict calories of children under 7-10... It seems if you start too young, it stunts your growth. Walford was also a member of one of the Bio-Sphere teams... Steve > Amazing results in the effects of eating less on the life span of > mice. It seems, although difficult to conduct, that a study on low > intake diets and their effect on human lifespan is in order. > > Although no doubt with all current evidence on obesity and health, > results would be very similar. http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/diet.fitness/03/23/diet.long.life.ap/index.html > Jade > Amazing results in the effects of eating less on the life span of > mice. It seems, although difficult to conduct, that a study on low > intake diets and their effect on human lifespan is in order. There's the usual complaint about Pritikan - Does it really extend life, or does life just *seem* longer while on Pritikan? Mice are feed a diet that contains a set percentage of carbs, fat and protein. I want to see studies where they vary only ONE of them not ALL of them. If lifelong low fat helps mouse longevity, where lifelong low protein hurt mouse longevity and lifelong regular carb had little effect, that would be an interesting result. In fact, at first guess I suspect that *either* lifelong lowering of fat without changing lifelong protein or carbs, *or* lifelong lowering of carbs without changing lifelong protein or fat will give the best results. As a low carber, I'd like to see lifelong carb reduction get the best results, but I'm well aware that reducing either carbs or fat both have good results. Anyways, reduced total calories leading to extended lifespan to me shouts for only reducing protein or fat or carbs separately to see if any of them dominate the effect. >> Amazing results in the effects of eating less on the life span of >> mice. It seems, although difficult to conduct, that a study on low [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and protein. I want to see studies where they vary only ONE of > them not ALL of them. They tried feeding mice a high fat diet, the incidence of cancer greatly increased. I remember reading a study abstract about it. i > If lifelong low fat helps mouse longevity, where lifelong low > protein hurt mouse longevity and lifelong regular carb had little [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > me shouts for only reducing protein or fat or carbs separately > to see if any of them dominate the effect. >In article <7960d3ee.0403241336.205d7ce9@posting.google.com>, Doug >Freyburger wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >They tried feeding mice a high fat diet, the incidence of cancer >greatly increased. I remember reading a study abstract about it. That is precisely what studies are-abstracts that people take to heart as gospel. If studies were true, fear would be rampant. >i LV Lady Veteran - ----------------------------------- "I rode a tank and held a general's rank when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..." - -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil - ------------------------------------------------ People who hide behind anonymous remailers and ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no motive but malice. - --------------------------------------------- > Amazing results in the effects of eating less on the life span of > mice. It seems, although difficult to conduct, that a study on low > intake diets and their effect on human lifespan is in order. > > Although no doubt with all current evidence on obesity and health, > results would be very similar. http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/diet.fitness/03/23/diet.long.life.ap/index.html > Jade "If such findings translate to humans, he said, "this could mean a lot more years and a lot of good years. The mice on caloric restriction lived longer and they are healthier."" Yes, but are they happy? Nobody ever asks that question. DIVa >> Amazing results in the effects of eating less on the life span of >> mice. It seems, although difficult to conduct, that a study on low [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >DIVa I can think of plenty of ways I enjoy life and can be happy that doesn't involve eating more. I can't speak for mice. Jade >> Amazing results in the effects of eating less on the life span of >> mice. It seems, although difficult to conduct, that a study on low [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Yes, but are they happy? Nobody ever asks that question. I am on a mild calorie restriction and I am very happy. Losing about 1 lb per month. i > > Amazing results in the effects of eating less on the life span of > > mice. It seems, although difficult to conduct, that a study on low [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > years and a lot of good years. The mice on caloric restriction lived longer > and they are healthier."" "If", the biggest word in the English language. If my aunt had a penis, she'd be my uncle... > Yes, but are they happy? Nobody ever asks that question. > > DIVa >> > Amazing results in the effects of eating less on the life span >> > of mice. It seems, although difficult to conduct, that a study [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >> DIVa There is existing and there is living....All things in moderation. There is nothing wrong with having forbidden treats in moderation. Some people just go overboard. Regardless, that does not make them bad or parasites or whatever fool can think of to put them down. LV Lady Veteran - ----------------------------------- "I rode a tank and held a general's rank when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..." - -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil - ------------------------------------------------ People who hide behind anonymous remailers and ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no motive but malice. - --------------------------------------------- >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >LV This is a first for Lady Vet. Let me congratulate you Bobbi. You actually responded to a posting without a slur or any obscenities. I knew you could do it if you just tried. James > "If", the biggest word in the English language. > If my aunt had a penis, she'd be my uncle... I think the point here, is that, as a culture, we have become over-consumers. We need to scale back on portion size, and begin to exercise. It isn't about not enjoying food, it is about not stuffing large portions into your body at all times... Enjoy a burger, enjoy a soft drink, but not ALL the time, and not In Large quantities... It is simple... Moderation. > > "If", the biggest word in the English language. > > If my aunt had a penis, she'd be my uncle... > > I think the point here, is that, as a culture, we have become > over-consumers. >> "If such findings translate to humans, he said, "this could mean a lot more ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> years and a lot of good years. The mice on caloric restriction lived longer >> and they are healthier."" No, the points here is that there is no proof that the findings do translate to humans. > We need to scale back on portion size, and begin to > exercise. It isn't about not enjoying food, it is about not stuffing > large portions into your body at all times... Enjoy a burger, enjoy a > soft drink, but not ALL the time, and not In Large quantities... It > is simple... Moderation. |
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