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[Review] Kashi "Go Lean" Crunchy Bars

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J.J. Marie - 24 Mar 2004 20:33 GMT
Today I tried a Kashi "Go Lean" Crunchy Bar (Chocolate Peanut Bliss).
Oh, yum! I really like these, and they seem pretty nutritous:

Weight: 50g
Calories: 170
Protein (soy): 9g
Carbs: 30g
Dietary fiber: 5g
Fat: 4g

Also has more than 10% of RDA for calcium, folic acid, iron, zinc,
Vitamins C, B6, B12, and magnesium.

Price: 97? at Wal-Mart

As a diabetic, that's a lot of carbs at once time, so I only ate
half a bar and will save the rest for this evening. Still, it's a
great replacement for candy bars, IMHO, especially since I have a
hard time getting enough protein and fiber sometimes...

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Ignoramus26794 - 24 Mar 2004 20:54 GMT
> Today I tried a Kashi "Go Lean" Crunchy Bar (Chocolate Peanut Bliss).
> Oh, yum! I really like these, and they seem pretty nutritous:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> As a diabetic, that's a lot of carbs at once time, so I only ate

A lot indeed!

> half a bar and will save the rest for this evening. Still, it's a
> great replacement for candy bars,

I am curious, why do you think that this "crunchy bar" is not a candy
bar, but a replacement for candy bars. It looks like a candy bar, to me.

> IMHO, especially since I have a hard time getting enough protein and
> fiber sometimes...

You just obtained 4.5 grams of soy derived protein and 2.5 grams of
fiber, that's not a lot, really.

Why is that bar called "Go Lean", instead of "go fat", is also not
clear.

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Crafting Mom - 24 Mar 2004 23:42 GMT
>> Today I tried a Kashi "Go Lean" Crunchy Bar (Chocolate Peanut Bliss).
>> Oh, yum! I really like these, and they seem pretty nutritous:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>I am curious, why do you think that this "crunchy bar" is not a candy
>bar, but a replacement for candy bars. It looks like a candy bar, to me.

I've seen those in the "health food section" of our grocery store, and
they look like a candy bar.  They still are full of sugar.  I didn't buy
one, so I don't have access to the full ingredient list.

Did the OP happen to post what's in it?
CM
Ignoramus26794 - 25 Mar 2004 00:37 GMT
>>> Today I tried a Kashi "Go Lean" Crunchy Bar (Chocolate Peanut Bliss).
>>> Oh, yum! I really like these, and they seem pretty nutritous:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Did the OP happen to post what's in it?
> CM

Check out the nutrition facts on those GoFat candy bars:

http://www.kashi.com/kagocrba.html

The ingredients list lists basically a lot of sugar in various forms
("cane juice", this and that syrup, etc), and starch, plus soy
protein, the kind that they add to chicken feed because it is the
cheapest protein.

Kashi GOLEAN Crunchy! Chocolate Peanut Bliss
This all-natural snack is the blissful combination of decadent
chocolate and roasted peanut butter!
INGREDIENTS: Soy Protein Isolate, Brown Rice Syrup, Rice Flour,
Evaporated Cane Juice, Kashi Seven Whole Grains and Sesame Cereal
(Corn, Wheat Bran, Evaporated Cane Juice, Corn Bran, Oat Fiber, Kashi
Flour [Stone Ground Whole: Oats, Hard Red Winter Wheat, Rye, Long
Grain Brown Rice, Triticale, Barley, Buckwheat, Sesame Seeds], Soy
Protein Concentrate, Salt, Annatto Color), Whole Grain Corn, Peanut
Butter, Peanut Flour, Brown Rice Flour, Evaporated Cane Juice Syrup,
Vegetable Glycerin, Oat Fiber, Fractionated Palm Kernel Oil, Chicory
Root Fiber, Toasted Rolled Oats, Rice Starch, Nonfat Dried Milk,
Cocoa, Natural Flavors, Maltodextrin, Calcium Carbonate, Salt, Malt,
Magnesium Oxide, Soy Lecithin, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Zinc Oxide,
Ferrous Fumarate (Iron), Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E),
Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic Acid, and Vitamin B12.
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nck - 25 Mar 2004 00:44 GMT
Lots of sugar in there!  About the only kashi product I used are the
waffles... ("is" the waffless???) I found the cereal foul!  I tried to feed
it to the birds but they passed on it.  Even the squirrels wouldn't eat it!
But the waffles are really tasty.
Another awful mouthful is all that "Atkins-friendly" bread that's around,
including the Atkins...it's not too bad for a sandwich, but toasted, it
actually feels soggy on the tongue.
I prefer Earthgrains of Pepperidge Farms thin-sliced!

>>>> Today I tried a Kashi "Go Lean" Crunchy Bar (Chocolate Peanut Bliss).
>>>> Oh, yum! I really like these, and they seem pretty nutritous:
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
> Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic Acid, and Vitamin B12.
> i
Ignoramus26794 - 25 Mar 2004 00:52 GMT
my chickens would not eat cakes.

i

> Lots of sugar in there!  About the only kashi product I used are the
> waffles... ("is" the waffless???) I found the cereal foul!  I tried to feed
[quoted text clipped - 63 lines]
>> Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic Acid, and Vitamin B12.
>> i
Crafting Mom - 25 Mar 2004 01:42 GMT
>The ingredients list lists basically a lot of sugar in various forms
>("cane juice", this and that syrup, etc), and starch, plus soy
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Folic Acid, and Vitamin B12.
>i

Wow, that's a lot of ingredients!
(And a lot of sugar and additives).

CM
J.J. Marie - 25 Mar 2004 02:59 GMT
Hark! I heard Ignoramus26794 <ignoramus26794@NOSPAM.26794.invalid> say:

> > Today I tried a Kashi "Go Lean" Crunchy Bar (Chocolate Peanut Bliss).
> > Oh, yum! I really like these, and they seem pretty nutritous:

In retrospect, I probably should have said "relatively nutritious".

> > Weight: 50g
> > Calories: 170
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> I am curious, why do you think that this "crunchy bar" is not a candy
> bar, but a replacement for candy bars. It looks like a candy bar, to me.

Ig, have you read the label of a candy bar lately? I used to pound down
Snickers, so I went to their web site:

http://www.snickers.com/nutrition.asp

Here's a side-by-side comparison of the Kashi bar and a regular size
Snickers bar:

Kashi                           Snickers
-----                           --------
Weight: 50g                     Weight: 58.7g
Calories: 170                   Calories: 280
Protein (soy): 9g               Protein: 4g
Carbs: 30g                      Carbs: 35g
Dietary fiber: 5g               Dietary fiber: 1g
Fat: 4g                         Fat: 14g

For someone like myself, who doesn't like to feel deprived (it's a
lot easier to stick to my diet if I don't), I still think the Kashi
bar is a reasonable replacement. YMMV, of course.

> > IMHO, especially since I have a hard time getting enough protein and
> > fiber sometimes...
>
> You just obtained 4.5 grams of soy derived protein and 2.5 grams of
> fiber, that's not a lot, really.

Not in actual quantity, no -- but compared to the nutrition in a
Snickers, it's not bad. Sure, there are better ways for me to spend
my calories, but as I said, I don't want to give up sweets completely.

> Why is that bar called "Go Lean", instead of "go fat", is also not
> clear.

Now, that's something you'd have to take up with Kashi's marketing
department...

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Ignoramus26794 - 25 Mar 2004 03:50 GMT
> Hark! I heard Ignoramus26794 <ignoramus26794@NOSPAM.26794.invalid> say:
>
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> Dietary fiber: 5g               Dietary fiber: 1g
> Fat: 4g                         Fat: 14g

good research.

> For someone like myself, who doesn't like to feel deprived (it's a
> lot easier to stick to my diet if I don't), I still think the Kashi
> bar is a reasonable replacement. YMMV, of course.

According to Dr Bernstein's book on diabetes (_Dr Bernstein Diabetes
Solution_), it is not a suitable food for a diabetic.

>> > IMHO, especially since I have a hard time getting enough protein and
>> > fiber sometimes...
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> Not in actual quantity, no -- but compared to the nutrition in a
> Snickers, it's not bad.

I see little difference, actually, 4 more grams of protein and a
little less fat than in snickers. Same carb count and just as bad carbs.

> Sure, there are better ways for me to spend
> my calories, but as I said, I don't want to give up sweets completely.

What does your doctor say about it? Have you checked
alt.support.diabetes newsgroup, also?

A gram of carbohydrate raises blood sugar by about 5 points (depending
on your weight). So, if you eat 15 grams of carbs, your BG rises by 75
points. high levels are quite damaging for nerves, blood vessels,
etc. Causing fun diseases like neuropathy etc. I am not an expert, but
it seems to be a common denominator amongst experts.

I sympathize with you in that your health makes eating some foods you
love hazardous. But, I think, you need to make some rational decisions
here based on just how much damage these candy bars are doing to you.

>> Why is that bar called "Go Lean", instead of "go fat", is also not
>> clear.
>
> Now, that's something you'd have to take up with Kashi's marketing
> department...

Someone really should be sorry for such a name.

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J.J. Marie - 25 Mar 2004 20:22 GMT
Hark! I heard Ignoramus26794 <ignoramus26794@NOSPAM.26794.invalid> say:
> > Hark! I heard Ignoramus26794 <ignoramus26794@NOSPAM.26794.invalid> say:

<big snip>

> good research.

I really didn't give enough information, though; this time I
also included Sat. Fat, Sugar, Cholesterol, and Sodium:

Kashi                           Snickers
-----                           --------
Serving         : 50g           Serving         : 58.7g
Calories        : 170           Calories        : 280
Fat             : 4g            Fat             : 14g
Sat. Fat        : 1.5g          Sat. Fat        : 5g
Cholesterol     : 0             Cholesterol     : 5mg
Sodium          : 220mg         Sodium          : 140mg
Carbs           : 30g           Carbs           : 35g
Dietary fiber   : 5g            Dietary fiber   : 1g
Sugar           : 13g           Sugar           : 30g
Protein (soy)   : 9g            Protein         : 4g

Source: http://www.kashi.com/kagocrba.html
Source: http://www.snickers.com/nutrition.asp

<snip>

> I see little difference, actually, 4 more grams of protein and a
> little less fat than in snickers. Same carb count and just as bad carbs.

I don't see it that way -- the Kashi product has less than half of
the sugar -- but I didn't post that last time, so that's my bad.

> > Sure, there are better ways for me to spend
> > my calories, but as I said, I don't want to give up sweets completely.
>
> What does your doctor say about it?

I'll ask him when I see him next month.

> A gram of carbohydrate raises blood sugar by about 5 points (depending
> on your weight). So, if you eat 15 grams of carbs, your BG rises by 75
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> love hazardous. But, I think, you need to make some rational decisions
> here based on just how much damage these candy bars are doing to you.

The way my dietician and nurse explained it to me was that you take the
total number of carb grams, subtract the fiber grams, divide the ending
number by 15, giving you carb "units". The Kashi bar has less than 2
carb units, which is acceptable, depending on how many units you are
allowed per day. I try to keep it at 2 units or less per meal/snack, of
which I eat 5-6 per day. I must be doing something right, as my BG
numbers are excellent since I changed the way I eat.

> >> Why is that bar called "Go Lean", instead of "go fat", is also not
> >> clear.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Someone really should be sorry for such a name.

Apparently, it refers to a whole range of products:

http://www.kashi.com/golslimsys1.html

But I haven't tried anything else they make, not sure if I
will or not...

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Ignoramus20562 - 25 Mar 2004 21:26 GMT
> Hark! I heard Ignoramus26794 <ignoramus26794@NOSPAM.26794.invalid> say:
>> > Hark! I heard Ignoramus26794 <ignoramus26794@NOSPAM.26794.invalid> say:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Source: http://www.kashi.com/kagocrba.html
> Source: http://www.snickers.com/nutrition.asp

one does not seem much better than the other, anyway. the cholesterol
difference is minimal, less sugar in one, that's good, but not great,
given that the rest iq quite processed. At gunpoint, I would probably
choose the kashi bar.

><snip>
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I don't see it that way -- the Kashi product has less than half of
> the sugar -- but I didn't post that last time, so that's my bad.

It is a little better, I guess, although it does not make it "good" in
my personal eyes.

>> > Sure, there are better ways for me to spend
>> > my calories, but as I said, I don't want to give up sweets completely.
>>
>> What does your doctor say about it?
>
> I'll ask him when I see him next month.

I would. Just ask what would be his suggestion to a patient who can
stay away from sweets, if he thinks that you'd be better off staying
off them. Without this qualification, he may tell you that a few are
okay, because he thinks that you could completely fall off the wagon
if you are "deprived"of sweets. So ask him what would be his
suggestion if he thought that you could stay off them entirely.

>> A gram of carbohydrate raises blood sugar by about 5 points (depending
>> on your weight). So, if you eat 15 grams of carbs, your BG rises by 75
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> which I eat 5-6 per day. I must be doing something right, as my BG
> numbers are excellent since I changed the way I eat.

So, you eat about 75-90 carb grams per day, right?

That's not bad. I eat about 150, although I am not a diabetic.

I hope that you keep your health under control, good luck!

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Crafting Mom - 25 Mar 2004 13:50 GMT
>Why is that bar called "Go Lean", instead of "go fat", is also not
>clear.

Could be worse, it could be called "Lean Over"
(cymbals crash... wow I should quit my day job)

LOL

CM
Perple Gyrl - 25 Mar 2004 14:44 GMT
That would make me buy it!  :)

"Crafting Mom"

> Could be worse, it could be called "Lean Over"
> (cymbals crash... wow I should quit my day job)
>
> LOL
>
> CM
 
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