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estella - 24 Mar 2004 15:47 GMT
I'm a bit disappointed.
When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
running and one  had a face which I did not like.
I ran one mile, then I realized that since it was raining I was alone
in the park with that man, because the other one had gone,
so I went to the car and drove home.
Now I still feel I did the right thing, (running people usually have
very peaceful faces) but I'm disappointed for not doing my exercise.
Beverly - 24 Mar 2004 16:10 GMT
> I'm a bit disappointed.
> When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
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> Now I still feel I did the right thing, (running people usually have
> very peaceful faces) but I'm disappointed for not doing my exercise.

You did the right thing.  If you feel uncomfortable in a situation it's
best to leave.  He was probably perfectly safe but it's better to be safe
than sorry.

Maybe you can find something to do indoors today.

Beverly
estella - 24 Mar 2004 16:24 GMT
>> I'm a bit disappointed.
>> When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>best to leave.  He was probably perfectly safe but it's better to be safe
>than sorry.

I knew I had to go.
I was really surprised, because that man seemed simply out of place.
Usually I can only see mothers with kids, old people walking, or
people running in the park.

>Maybe you can find something to do indoors today.

From Krista's site, maybe.:-)
The fact is that I like to spend calories (I stll have so many stored)
and weight lifting does not spend calories.
Beverly - 24 Mar 2004 16:30 GMT
> >> I'm a bit disappointed.
> >> When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
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> The fact is that I like to spend calories (I stll have so many stored)
> and weight lifting does not spend calories.

But it will build muscles which burn more calories in the long run......get
those weights out !!

Beverly
billydee - 25 Mar 2004 00:09 GMT
> > >> I'm a bit disappointed.
> > >> When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
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>
> Beverly

It also expends calories. You have been misinformed.
Jayjay - 24 Mar 2004 17:32 GMT
>From Krista's site, maybe.:-)
>The fact is that I like to spend calories (I stll have so many stored)
>and weight lifting does not spend calories.

Weight lifting does spend calories.   Its just not calculated the same
as cardio.

Ya know - during a good weight workout I will get my heart rate up.
You have to take a break between sets to rest and recover.

Its not an aerobic (cardio) workout, its an anabolic workout.  And in
the long run it will do so much more for your weight loss efforts than
just cardio will do.
JMA - 24 Mar 2004 17:49 GMT
> >From Krista's site, maybe.:-)
> >The fact is that I like to spend calories (I stll have so many stored)
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> the long run it will do so much more for your weight loss efforts than
> just cardio will do.

I've even broken out into a serious sweat during some sets.

Jenn
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 25 Mar 2004 03:22 GMT
> The fact is that I like to spend calories (I stll have so many stored)
> and weight lifting does not spend calories.

it does on the planet on which i live.  

not to mention the fact that building muscle helps to make you a more
efficient calorie-spender all around, so the benefits continue even
after the workout.  

there's nothing wrong with cardio if that's what you like to do, but to
say that weight lifting doesn't burn calories is just plain silly.
Jayjay - 24 Mar 2004 16:12 GMT
>I'm a bit disappointed.
>When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Now I still feel I did the right thing, (running people usually have
>very peaceful faces) but I'm disappointed for not doing my exercise.

I'll agree w/ Beverly - you did the right thing.   Better safe then
sorry, they always say.   No need to take chances with your life.

How about channel surfing to find an exercise program and doing
something indoors. ?
estella - 24 Mar 2004 16:26 GMT
>>I'm a bit disappointed.
>>When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>I'll agree w/ Beverly - you did the right thing.   Better safe then
>sorry, they always say.   No need to take chances with your life.

I feel angry with that man because he did not let me exercise :-)

>How about channel surfing to find an exercise program and doing
>something indoors. ?

I'll get something from Krista's site.
Jayjay - 24 Mar 2004 16:28 GMT
>>>I'm a bit disappointed.
>>>When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>I feel angry with that man because he did not let me exercise :-)

I know how you feel!   But, think of the consiquences if something
were to happen.   You can always find another source of exercise.  

>>How about channel surfing to find an exercise program and doing
>>something indoors. ?
>>
>I'll get something from Krista's site.
There you go!
SnugBear - 25 Mar 2004 03:11 GMT
> I feel angry with that man because he did not let me exercise :-)

Think how I felt last summer when the police suspected that a
rapist/murderer was staying in a house on my favorite walking route?!  
This is a very rural area and that house was the only one on that part of
the road.  I didn't go that way for maybe 6 weeks before I decided it was
probably safe.  We've never heard anything more about it.

I went that way tonight <s>

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JMA - 24 Mar 2004 17:46 GMT
> I'm a bit disappointed.
> When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Now I still feel I did the right thing, (running people usually have
> very peaceful faces) but I'm disappointed for not doing my exercise.

Give yourself a break.  You did a mile (it counts as exercise).  You stopped
your workout because something wasn't right, not because you hit the ice
cream parlor instead. You did the right thing.

Yesterday, I took my dog for a 1 mile walk.  That was the sum total of my
exercise for the entire day.  I didn't have the energy to do anything but
sleep.  It's 10:45 AM and I'm still trying to shake the cobwebs and get
going to the gym :P  I'm not thrilled with myself but I'm not going to beat
myself up over it since I probably have good reasons for being this tired
and I know I'll get past it.

Jenn
estella - 24 Mar 2004 18:19 GMT
>> I'm a bit disappointed.
>> When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>your workout because something wasn't right, not because you hit the ice
>cream parlor instead. You did the right thing.

What annoys me, is that on Sunday there will be a major family
celebration (we are celebrating the birth of a nephew).
I wanted to be in a very good shape.
Of course I am still in a better shape than 3 months ago, but I wanted
other people to notice.
(My husband is already :-)
Ignoramus26794 - 24 Mar 2004 18:30 GMT
one day of running won't make a difference in yur shape...

i

>>> I'm a bit disappointed.
>>> When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> other people to notice.
> (My husband is already :-)
estella - 24 Mar 2004 22:56 GMT
>one day of running won't make a difference in yur shape...

There is no way to moan a little in this support group, isn't it?
:-)
Ignoramus26794 - 25 Mar 2004 00:48 GMT
>>one day of running won't make a difference in yur shape...
>
> There is no way to moan a little in this support group, isn't it?
>:-)

your relatives will be moaning real soon when they see you... how much
have you lost?

i
estella - 25 Mar 2004 10:26 GMT
>>>one day of running won't make a difference in yur shape...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>i

I decide to ignore the scale, which says I am still in the 72 kg
range.
I decided to ignore it beacuse I see in the mirror there are great
improvements and that trousers I wear are loose (which is great news
because they are already one size smaller of the ones I had before I
started this).
I like myself in the mirror, I simply could not watch myself three
months ago.
I know everybody says I must lift weights, but I can see and feel
strong muscles in my legs now.
I do weight lifting now and then, but have not yet managed to do an
habit out of it.
JMA - 24 Mar 2004 18:31 GMT
> >> I'm a bit disappointed.
> >> When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> other people to notice.
> (My husband is already :-)

If it's been 3 months, they'll notice :)

Jenn
Jayjay - 24 Mar 2004 18:56 GMT
>What annoys me, is that on Sunday there will be a major family
>celebration (we are celebrating the birth of a nephew).
>I wanted to be in a very good shape.
>Of course I am still in a better shape than 3 months ago, but I wanted
>other people to notice.
>(My husband is already :-)

<slap>
Reality Check....
Cutting a run short 4 days before a family event is NOT going to make
a noticable enough difference to any family members.

If your husband can notice the difference and he sees you every day,
then believe me - your family will notice!
That T Woman - 24 Mar 2004 19:37 GMT
> >What annoys me, is that on Sunday there will be a major family
> >celebration (we are celebrating the birth of a nephew).
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> If your husband can notice the difference and he sees you every day,
> then believe me - your family will notice!

I may be a total bitch but at least I don't hit people.  <g>

Estella, your family will be glad to see you safe rather than weighing an
ounce less if you'd been able to exercise as much as you'd wanted to.  If
that man was out to hurt someone, you'd have been a good target.  You were
smart to leave.  I always make sure my DH knows that I'm out walking at the
park and I carry my cell phone with me too.  Of course, it always seems that
there's a off-duty cop jogging the track too when I'm there.

Tonia
221/190/130

Tonia
Perple Gyrl - 25 Mar 2004 03:17 GMT
"estella"

> What annoys me, is that on Sunday there will be a major family
> celebration (we are celebrating the birth of a nephew).
> I wanted to be in a very good shape.
> Of course I am still in a better shape than 3 months ago, but I wanted
> other people to notice.
> (My husband is already :-)

I am sure that they will notice!  If your husband can notice after seeing
you every day, I have NO doubt they will too.
janice - 24 Mar 2004 19:45 GMT
I guess you did the right thing, and followed your instincts.  Lots of
people run and jog in the parks here in London, but last year one
female jogger was murdered, and another seriously attacked, so I think
it's best to err on the side of caution if you feel uneasy.

janice
233/177/133

>I'm a bit disappointed.
>When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Now I still feel I did the right thing, (running people usually have
>very peaceful faces) but I'm disappointed for not doing my exercise.
Paul - 25 Mar 2004 00:17 GMT
Hello Estella,

 I'm surprised at you.  First I commend you on taking precaution, but how
can you blame that man for your leaving.  He didn't make you leave, yet you
posted a little ways down that your angry with him for making you leave.  As
far as not liking his face, isn't his fault either.  God gave him the face
he has and as far as you know the better looking man might have been the one
to be worried about, and the one with the face you didn't like might have
just saved your life by being there.  Think about that.

 I don't think you would like my face or presence either if we were alone
in a park, but I can guarantee you I wouldn't harm you, and I'd back you up
if someone attacked you.

 Forgive me if I am making this a bigger issue than it is, it's just I
think people who are prejudice against others because of their looks aren't
being fair and show ignorance that shouldn't be there.

Paul

> I'm a bit disappointed.
> When I went to the park there was only a couple of men
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Now I still feel I did the right thing, (running people usually have
> very peaceful faces) but I'm disappointed for not doing my exercise.
JMA - 25 Mar 2004 01:28 GMT
> Hello Estella,
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Paul

I wouldn't take the comments personally Paul.  It's probably difficult being
a scary looking guy, but as a woman I can tell you that it pays to err on
the side of caution.  When you're out running you're in a vulnerable
position.  Estella noticed someone that appeared out of place in an area
that she is used to and made what I feel is a wise decision.  If I was out
running on a trail and saw someone that didn't look like they belonged
there, I'd also avoid them.  There's no guarantee that I won't someday run
into some freak in running attire out on the trail but you can't avoid every
bad situation that life has in store for you.

Sadly while *you* are not harmful, there are plenty of people out there who
are.  I've been robbed at gunpoint on a city street and was nearly assaulted
on another occasion (in a public area).  Nowadays I live in a rural area
with more property crime than personal crime.  The biggest threat to my
safety while running is coming across an overly friendly loose dog, a pack
of bear hunting hounds, or a bear. :)

Remember that Estella is also not a native English speaker and her word
choices may not be as precise as you're used to.

Jenn
Paul - 25 Mar 2004 08:00 GMT
I'm not familiar with Estella's native background.  I'm just going by what
she wrote.  I also commended her for leaving the area.  I just didn't care
for the remark about her not liking the way he looked and the other guy was
ok.  If I read into it then I'm sorry, but I think others can understand
where I'm coming from.  I think I made perfect sense.  The remark made later
on about her being angry because that man caused her not to be able to run
is ludicrous.  She could have gone elsewhere.

Paul

> > Hello Estella,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> Jenn
estella - 25 Mar 2004 09:57 GMT
>I wouldn't take the comments personally Paul.  It's probably difficult being
>a scary looking guy, but as a woman I can tell you that it pays to err on
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>Remember that Estella is also not a native English speaker and her word
>choices may not be as precise as you're used to.

Exactly.
That T Woman - 25 Mar 2004 01:40 GMT
> Hello Estella,
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Paul

Estella is not a native English speaker.  I interpreted what she said about
not liking the look of his face to mean she didn't like his facial
expressions/demeanor and body language.  She said, IIRC, that he looked
wrong for being in the park.  He may not have been dressed in the workout or
casual clothes that a person there to walk or run would wear.  I may be
wrong but all of us women folk have to depend on our instincts to keep us
safe.  I agree that her anger is a bit misplaced.  She opted for safety and
did not choose to risk finding out whether the guy was a real threat.
Therefore, she shouldn't be mad at him for her choice.  She should be glad
that she's able to exercise another day.

Tonia
221/190/130
Paul - 25 Mar 2004 08:04 GMT
I agree with you 100%.  I'm sorry I didn't know she was writing from another
native background.  I can see how my interpretation of her words was
misunderstood.  I didn't realize she felt he was out of place for the area
and for running.  I thought she literally didn't like this man's looks.  My
bad and I'm sorry Estella, I'll definitely remember this in future postings.

Sincerely,

Scary looking guy Paul ;<)

> > Hello Estella,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> Tonia
> 221/190/130
estella - 25 Mar 2004 10:14 GMT
>Estella is not a native English speaker.  

Do you mean, my English is too bad to be understood?
:-(

(Just a little joke, I would be PROUD if someone did not realize I am
a not-English speaker.).
That T Woman - 25 Mar 2004 15:31 GMT
> >Estella is not a native English speaker.
>
> Do you mean, my English is too bad to be understood?
> :-(

No, I understood what you meant.  But it helps to know that you aren't
familiar with the common expressions that someone in the USA would use to
describe the situation.  He gave you a bad vibe.  The evil eye description
worked, I think.

> (Just a little joke, I would be PROUD if someone did not realize I am
> a not-English speaker.).

Actually you do better than a lot of people I read on usenet who are just
too lazy to type out whole words and use expressions like l8tr (later) and
bfn (bye for now.)  You do a wonderful job at proper capitalize and
punctuation.  I may be a PITA (pain in the a.s) about it but I really think
that it reflects on the level of seriousness that a person takes in the
subject.

Take care,
Tonia
221/190/130
estella - 25 Mar 2004 09:55 GMT
>Hello Estella,
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Paul

Uhm. Why am I pretty sure I would not consider you a danger if I met
you somewhere?
That man had an evil look in his eyes.
I cannot explain you why, but I felt he was out of place in the park
and that he was NOT exercising.
I felt SCARED to be alone in the park with him, so I left.
As a seller, I am actually used to judging people at first look.
It is part of my job.
Even in my job, I sometimes had the same feeling, and at least twice
in three years I preferred to lose a business instead of dealing with
some people.
---
I bought the newspaper today because I saw that in the first page
there was the news of a woman robbed of her car, money and telephone
by a 35 yo man.
I live in a small town in Italy and these news are unsual.
There was no description of the man, but this happened in the area
near the park two hours later my failed exercising.
I could scan the news if someone wants.
 
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