I woke up feeling a bit puffy this morning and whipped out the tape
measure to discover that my thighs were 1/4" bigger. Sigh. Today was
my big weigh-in and caliper test at the gym and the scale said I was up
a pound of (obviously water) weight. But let's go with it because in
the scheme of things, the results are still pretty great.
In the past twelve weeks I've gone from 30.4% body fat at 190 pounds (58
pounds fat, 132 pounds lean) to 27.5% body fat at 179 pounds (49 pounds
fat 130 pounds lean.)
So I've lost 9 pounds of fat in 12 weeks, along with 2 pounds of lean
body mass regretfully lost along the way. I'm working SO HARD at
keeping my LBM that this upsets me, even though I absolutely know it
shouldn't. I'm too far along in my cutting career to lose fat without
LBM anymore. But I guess the ratios don't suck, and the fat came 100%
off of my thighs. (I'm not quite as thrilled about this transformation
as you might expect because I'm left with hanging flabby skin where
firmly packed lard used to be.)
I was in the gym for my last workout of the session and trying really
hard to do a great job at it. I'm doing a progressive weight-lifting
program called Hypertrophy Specific Training and each day you lift
heavier weights and this was my heaviest. I had a gravity attack on the
bench press and was feeling a bit down at only getting two reps when I
thought I should be able to do five.
But I got considerably cheered up with my great squats at my presumed
five rep max. A guy actually came over and said, "Wow, somebody is
doing squats right!" (It's sort of unusual to see people squatting in
my gym.) I was about to start my second set with my heaviest weights
ever and was a bit embarrassed about being on display, so I just
murmered something about the squatting down was easy, it was standing up
that was hard. He laughed and went away. But it was nice.
Later I realized that I had been making a mental math error on my bench
- I had loaded the bar with five pounds more than I meant to. That made
me feel MUCH better! (But not about the part where I make mental math
errors... that's a problem.) :-)
Oh, and Wednesday I bought size 14 jeans. I started this journey 22
months ago wearing a tight size 22.
Dally
244/179/170
Elise Converse - 26 Mar 2004 20:36 GMT
Congratulations on your success. I know that working long, tiring hours is
a real eating trigger for a lot of people and I applaud your ability to
stick to your plan! Do you plan to start a new 12 week cycle? Keep up the
good work! Elise.
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Dally - 26 Mar 2004 23:26 GMT
> Congratulations on your success. I know that working long, tiring hours is
> a real eating trigger for a lot of people and I applaud your ability to
> stick to your plan! Do you plan to start a new 12 week cycle? Keep up the
> good work! Elise.
Thanks, Elise!
-- Dally
A Ross - 26 Mar 2004 20:37 GMT
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<c41vbs$2dmhvv$1@ID-217902.news.uni-berlin.de>, Dally
<dally@myself.com> wrote:
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> I woke up feeling a bit puffy this morning and whipped
> out the tape
> measure to discover that my thighs were 1/4" bigger.
> Sigh.
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I had Chinese for lunch yesterday and woke up so puffy
my fingers won't bend. Been gulping water all day
trying to get rid of the MSG and the "waking up fat"
feeling.
> Oh, and Wednesday I bought size 14 jeans. I started
> this journey 22 months ago wearing a tight size 22.
>
Good for you! Did you get a new swimsuit for your
cruise? I've seen some decent styles out this year,
compared to the barely-there stuff of last spring.
btw, Are you going for another challenge?
Amy
168/119 (puffy)
Dally - 26 Mar 2004 23:26 GMT
> Good for you! Did you get a new swimsuit for your
> cruise? I've seen some decent styles out this year,
> compared to the barely-there stuff of last spring.
Of course! I like the Miracle Suits that have built-in girdles. (You
may recall threads detailing in gross splendor the ruin of my belly.) I
don't have fat-lady skirts anymore, but that's probably a bad thing.
There's a bit of an oxbow where my butt flows into my thighs that I
would be mortified about if I ever saw it. (So I don't look.)
> btw, Are you going for another challenge?
Probably, but I don't do them automatically. I tend to do them when I
need to focus on a specific goal. I certainly won't start one until
after the whole tax season finale and April vacation thing is over.
It would be nice to be at goal by the end of June. I'm going out to a
big family reunion and knocking the socks off of my relatives somewhat
appeals to me. :-)
> 168/119 (puffy)
My sympathies! :-)
Dally
Ignoramus27771 - 26 Mar 2004 20:54 GMT
Losing 8 lbs of fat and 2 lbs of LBM in 12 weeks is outstanding.
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Dally - 26 Mar 2004 23:28 GMT
> Losing 8 lbs of fat and 2 lbs of LBM in 12 weeks is outstanding.
It sounds boringly pedestrian to me. The only thing that makes it
noteworthy is that it was pounds 54-65 that got lost. It was nice to
not be stalled. (But it isn't getting any easier!!)
Dally
Ignoramus27771 - 27 Mar 2004 01:14 GMT
>> Losing 8 lbs of fat and 2 lbs of LBM in 12 weeks is outstanding.
>
> It sounds boringly pedestrian to me. The only thing that makes it
> noteworthy is that it was pounds 54-65 that got lost. It was nice to
> not be stalled. (But it isn't getting any easier!!)
These pounds, though harder to lose, have a disproportionately large
effect on your appearance and fitness though.
I have about 6 lbs to lose for this year remaining.
i
Jayjay - 26 Mar 2004 21:23 GMT
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>a pound of (obviously water) weight. But let's go with it because in
>the scheme of things, the results are still pretty great.
Must be the moon phase or something - I woke up the same today too.
I felt bloated/puffy - even my gums had swelled up... (which usually
happens w/ high sodium)... Don't know *why* .. dinner last night
was spagetti, the sauce (prego) has 520mg / serving, but that
shouldn't have affected me that bad).
>In the past twelve weeks I've gone from 30.4% body fat at 190 pounds (58
>pounds fat, 132 pounds lean) to 27.5% body fat at 179 pounds (49 pounds
>fat 130 pounds lean.)
WOW!!!
>So I've lost 9 pounds of fat in 12 weeks, along with 2 pounds of lean
>body mass regretfully lost along the way. I'm working SO HARD at
>keeping my LBM that this upsets me, even though I absolutely know it
>shouldn't.
WOW!! Would you stop getting upset about the muscle loss. I mean -
come on, you lost 11lbs and 9 of it was fat. That's freakin 82% of
your loss in FAT!!! Less than 20% was lean tissue. That is
AWESOME!!! I'm not sure if many other dieters in here can make those
kinds of claims.
>I'm too far along in my cutting career to lose fat without
>LBM anymore. But I guess the ratios don't suck, and the fat came 100%
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Dally - 26 Mar 2004 23:32 GMT
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> << just caught this - so I'll try to remember to do the same for my
> followups w/ you>>
Don't worry about it. I just didn't want to start the thread. I
thought about tacking it onto Bees' annual report but that didn't seem
nice. :-)
>>So I've lost 9 pounds of fat in 12 weeks, along with 2 pounds of lean
>>body mass regretfully lost along the way. I'm working SO HARD at
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> AWESOME!!! I'm not sure if many other dieters in here can make those
> kinds of claims.
That's nice of you to say. I don't really have any idea what is normal.
I just know that my goal weight has to ratchet down every time my LBM
drops and it keeps me from ever getting to goal! (Time was when 180 was
my goal!)
My new goal weight has to be 169 now because of the LBM loss. But I'm
still keeping 170 because I know it's going to drop again and I'll just
have to re-evaluate it all along the way and - dammit - I want to reach
170 so that's still my goal. :-)
Dally
244/179/170
JayJay - 27 Mar 2004 02:35 GMT
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I'm confused about your goals... why not calculate a bf% into the goal
weight. or are you already doing that - and that is why you keep lowering
your weight?
Realistically - (and you already know this)... for you to continue losing
body fat, you have to lose some LBM. I mean, for someone my height, I have
to get below 120lbs and maintain as much LBM as absolutely possible for me
to get my bf% down below 20.
I know you are a bean counter and all - but don't get too anal about this
and get too hung up in the statistical numbering on all this. Another 10lb
loss should bring you into the size 12 clothing range. And seriously - what
is your end all goal? It can't be a number on the scale at this point. Its
got to be a combination of factors - weight, bf, clothing, looks... Have
you put that kind of thought into it yet?
Dally - 27 Mar 2004 05:17 GMT
> "Dally" <dally@myself.com> wrote in message
>>My new goal weight has to be 169 now because of the LBM loss. But I'm
>>still keeping 170 because I know it's going to drop again and I'll just
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> I'm confused about your goals... why not calculate a bf% into the goal
> weight. or are you already doing that - and that is why you keep lowering
> your weight?
Well, my actual goal always was a body fat percentage. I just expressed
it as a weight in the sig line per the convention in this group. When I
first started out I had 140 LBM and so 180 pounds was 23% body fat,
i.e., my goal weight.
So, yes, as I've lost LBM I've had to lower my goal weight just because
23% body fat was a lower weight at my new LBM.
It's just a bit frustrating to always be chasing a goal that forever
moves a bit farther away, so I'm holding it at 170 until I get there and
I'll re-evaluate then. (I fully expect it to take me six months to
reach 170: I'll gain in April, lose that in May and lose 2 pounds a
month for the next four months if past trends hold.)
> Realistically - (and you already know this)... for you to continue losing
> body fat, you have to lose some LBM. I mean, for someone my height, I have
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> got to be a combination of factors - weight, bf, clothing, looks... Have
> you put that kind of thought into it yet?
I chose 23% body fat because it was "healthy" and yet not unattainable -
it's still curvy. I was never aiming for a weight or a clothing size.
I'm not unhappy with myself at 27.5%. I'd be thrilled if I could get
some of the loose lumpy fat off of my upper thighs - but that just makes
me a normal American woman. :-)
Dally
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> pounds fat, 132 pounds lean) to 27.5% body fat at 179 pounds (49 pounds
> fat 130 pounds lean.)
Great results!
> So I've lost 9 pounds of fat in 12 weeks, along with 2 pounds of lean
> body mass regretfully lost along the way. I'm working SO HARD at
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> as you might expect because I'm left with hanging flabby skin where
> firmly packed lard used to be.)
I would imagine that it's extremely rare to lose only fat. You seem to have
been able to minimize the LBM loss (<20% of total) and that should be a more
reasonable goal, especially for someone like you who has a life.
> Oh, and Wednesday I bought size 14 jeans. I started this journey 22
> months ago wearing a tight size 22.
>
> Dally
> 244/179/170
Keep up the great work. One of the aerobics instructors at the gym (a tiny
woman to begin with) just started BFL last week or the week before. She
said she's done it in the past but gained back the 10 pounds she lost. I'm
thinking it might be something to try next fall when I can really commit to
the whole thing.
Right now with my schedule I'm looking at twice a week in the gym (instead
of my normal 3x) for the next 2 months and then summer looks like I won't
even be around with DH taking a job in another state (temporary).
Jenn
getting into my busy time of the year
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> pounds fat, 132 pounds lean) to 27.5% body fat at 179 pounds (49 pounds
> fat 130 pounds lean.)
This is fantastic progresss. I would imagine it's tough not to lose some
LBM as you near your goal. It's been a pleasure to follow your progress
through your BFL challenges and I look forward to the next one.
Congratulations!!
Beverly
> So I've lost 9 pounds of fat in 12 weeks, along with 2 pounds of lean
> body mass regretfully lost along the way. I'm working SO HARD at
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Perple Gyrl - 27 Mar 2004 03:05 GMT
Outstanding on the success of your challenge! Your fat to lean ratio is
great, so I wouldn't sweat the 2 lbs of lean lost.
I bought the book last month but haven't had time to read it yet. I am
thinking about trying a challenge too next month. Are they hard to stick
to?
"Dally"
> In the past twelve weeks I've gone from 30.4% body fat at 190 pounds (58
> pounds fat, 132 pounds lean) to 27.5% body fat at 179 pounds (49 pounds
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> firmly packed lard used to be.)
> Dally
> 244/179/170
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>Dally
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Congratulations, Dally! You're doing wonderfully. You know it's
inevitable that you'll lose some lean tissue, and you have a very good
ratio.
Chris
estella - 27 Mar 2004 08:48 GMT
You are an inspiration.
What body fat percentuage would be "right" for an healthy woman?
I realized that I lately look at other women critizing their looks.
For example, there is a skinny woman I know, with a big belly
(probably due to pregnancies).
I give her mental advises what she should do to look better (do some
cardio 4/5 times a week, I suppose).
There is another one, who is about 60 pounds more than she should be,
that is always complaining about her knee joints aching.
Well, I think to myself, you should go on a diet, your poor knees just
cannot carry your extra weight.
I know another one, who is so skinny she looks unhealthy.
You can tell she simply has no muscles in her body.
I bet that when the summer comes, she will show fat in her arms.
So I no more want to loose weight, I want to look healthy.
I want to have muscles in my arms and a flat belly (if I can get it
again, which I at the moment do not know).