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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / March 2004At an impass... :( More exercise?
I want to thank those who replied to me a couple of weeks ago for their support, it was very helpful and motivating for sure... I need to just ask what to do in my situation, what I need to change, because I am at an impass... I started at 182 last February, and thru a combination of pills, dieting, exercising, and learning to eat right, I've gotten myself down to holding in the mid-150s this past month, but I have not seen a lot of progress from there. I need to change something. I am still on Meridia - 15mg a day - and I am still on a strict diet of 2 Boost High Protein Shakes a day (thats about 33g carbs and 15g protein each) and two snacks a day (salad or fruit) and I still exercise every day. And a healthy dinner of about 900 calories. So, it's a total of about 1500 calories (900 dinner, 600 shakes and snacks). About 160g of my food per day comes from protein, and less than 20g in fats, and the rest carbs, I guess. The odd time, a larger dinner, or, extra snack, can bring me up to 1700 calories, but, that's really the extent of what I would have in a day, MAX!!! (Also, I still have not been able to find a suitable replacement for pre-mixed shakes that has less carbs, the same amount of energy, and is affordable... The Myoplex go for over $3 each, and at 2 per day, that's jsut not possible :( ) I was exercising about 30 minutes on the elliptical per day until this week, when I have now switched to 40 or 45 minutes. I also was doing weights twice a week, but I am considering increasing that. What am I doing wrong here? I burn about 450 calories with half hour on the elliptical, which leaves about 1250 calories unaccounted for (based on 1700 in a day). Am I going to need to increase my cardio to 40-45 minutes or EVEN MORE on a regular basis? Should I increase my weight training frequency? Gym sessions could take up to 1.5 hours a day, which may start to become impractical to do on a consistent basis. I don't think decreasing the amount of food per day is an option at this point... I already find it pretty hard to keep it at what it is, I get weak spells and hunger pangs already. Please help...Is my only option to increase exercise? And even then, will it work? Or am I destined to be 155 forever... Any clarification needed on any of these points, please let me know... Mark Toronto 25 - 5'5 - 182/154/145 One option to try... Take a break. Another thing - with the added weight training and increased exercise, there is a chance you are building some muscle, while at the same time, losing some fat. You'll see the results in measurements and clothing fit, but will not necessarily see the results on the scale. But, back to my "take a break" comment. What works for some, especially in the low cal approach to dieting, is, just to take a break. Feed your body some extra nutritional calories and take a break from exercise for a few days. This tricks the body. When you return to your diet, then your body will resume weight loss. This tends to go along with the whole "starvation mode" theory, and the break is a way to break the body's natural instinct to conserve. The final way that works for some people is to just on keep on doing what you are doing. Give it time. The body will pull thru. For me, i work in a combination of all the above. I can keep plugging away and eventually it will break the stall, it seems my body will lose in big chunks of weight (5lb increments) and then get stuck for a few weeks before I'll drop another 5lbs. > I want to thank those who replied to me a couple of weeks ago for their > support, it was very helpful and motivating for sure... [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Toronto > 25 - 5'5 - 182/154/145 > But, back to my "take a break" comment. What works for some, especially in > the low cal approach to dieting, is, just to take a break. Feed your body [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > mode" theory, and the break is a way to break the body's natural instinct to > conserve. This is where I'm at right now, though not completely voluntary. My energy level is zero the last few days and it might be because of the metformin since that's the only major change. I've been feeling extremely depressed for no real reason on top of a little nausea and a lot of lethargy. For example, I tried to go for a slow, short run just to get moving and within a quarter mile all I wanted to do was sit down in the road or on the side of the road. All that was missing was the little purple men. So I went to the gym on Friday for my normal routine. I went to do my bench press, did the first set and then just lay there. I didn't even realize I was doing it. There was only one other person in the gym and he finally came over to see if I was ok because he didn't see me move at all after I racked the bar. He'd been watching me in case I needed a spot (not likely at 65 lbs but that's another story). Apparently I'd been there for nearly 10 minutes, spaced out and staring at the ceiling. I sleep a lot and have no appetite and so sticking to the diet has been rather simple, though I'm back to blowing up like a water balloon. I'm not getting on the scale because it just makes things worse (mentally) so in reality I could be losing some weight right now but with the water retention I doubt it. This depression thing is chemical - it's too coincidental with the start of the metformin. I think it's possible that my body and mind needed a serious break. Tomorrow I go back to square 1. I'm calling the dr first thing about the meds, working out with the track team, meeting a friend at the gym to help me stay on task, and taking a few days off from food to go back to HMR shakes (temporarily) because it's simple, stress free and actually works for me. DH and I were going to do SBD together but he changed his mind and wants to do his own thing including all of his own cooking - no complaints here! Jenn I've been on glucophage for a few years and I never noticed the symptoms you describe, as far as lethargy. How long have you been on it now and how many mgs? "JMA" > I sleep a lot and have no appetite and so sticking to the diet has been > rather simple, though I'm back to blowing up like a water balloon. I'm not [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Jenn Jenny I am sorry to hear you are still having such a rough time. Good idea with the Dr. though, maybe there is a different medi without the sideeffects. You have come so far and have been so strong, you will get through this too. I just hope for your sake asap. take care Michelle Ozzie in Switzerland WW WI 69.8 / 62.2 / 61kg 134 lbs >> But, back to my "take a break" comment. What works for some, especially >in [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > >Jenn I wouldn't recommend dropping your calories much. I don't like that you're feeling hungry regularly. It might help to balance out your calories more throughout the day and not have so many at dinner. I eat about the same number of calories you do (and weigh about the same), but my dinner is usually not more than 400 calories or so. I eat a larger breakfast, probably heartier snacks (with some protein), and sometimes have a bedtime snack of yogurt or cottage cheese. Rather than increasing the duration of your cardio exercise, I'd recommend shortening the time and doing higher-intensity intervals. For example, if you like doing the elliptical, alternate a few minutes at moderate intensity with 1-minute all-out sprints. The high-intensity intervals should be about all you can handle for a minute, with the low intensity part long enough to recover enough to do it again. You might also try doing different sorts of cardio sometimes. The body tends to become very efficient at anything we do day after day; it's better to shake it up a bit :-). I'd also recommend adding another day of weight training. And are you lifting heavy when you lift? You want to build muscle, as this will help increase your metabolic rate. Finally, 155 may not be that bad a weight for you. Do you know what your bodyfat percentage is? Chris 262/155/(145-150) For me, personally, I'm not so concerned about gainign muscle, because I just want to lose overall. I don't care if I lose muscle, I jsut want to get my overall weight down to my goal of 145, then work on developing muscle. But it is indeed true abuot dimensions, I have gone from some pants sizes of 33 to about 30 now, hopefully pushing 29 soon. But the ideao fa break really scares me...because I do agree, it could end up at you suggest, Jayjay, and shock my body into losing a bunch at once... but... I'd be pretty devestated if I gained 5 lb in a week, so much so, I don't know if I would have the motivation to continue. I geuss I will leave the break idea as a last resort for now... It's hard enough to get into the swing of exercising, I also can't NOT go at this point, if I stopped, and then lost that urge, I would be pretty let down. I like the idea of the modified weight training ideas you gave Chris. Maybe I'll do bursts of intensity, like you suggested. I find that my heart rate is getting lower and lower every day on the elliptical. I used to go up to 160 or higher easily, and now I have to go nuts just to get to 155. I'm going to try the treadmill instead, someone else at the gym suggested your suggestion, that I might be getting too used to the elliptical. But here's where I am confused for weights/cardio: What's this I hear about weights being a better fat burner than cardio? Or somehting along those lines...? Some peopel keep telling me this, but I am not sure I understand. Some people are telling me that if I do weight training, that form of exercise will convert more of the fat on my body to energy or to muscle than if I do cardio. I don't understand this assertion, because in cardio, I'm clearly working hard with a heart rate of 150+...but with weight training, my heart rate is not likely that high, I don't sweat much at all. For weights, I do a 10lb bicep preacher curl, 40lb dumbells chest press lying down on the bench, tricep press of about a level 6 weight, shoulder pull-down of level 5, and a random amount of decline-bench abs. Should I aim for higher reps, or more weight? I like to do 12-15 reps, 3 set usually. I'd take it down to 8-10, 3 set if I go higher weights. As for my body fat percentage... it's 17 per cent. I have no idea what that means though. How does it rank for my size? My sincerest of thanks to you Jayjay, and Chris... It's so hard for people when they are not sure when what they are doing...but you guys' sharing your experiences is so valuable, you don't even know... How is your knee, Jayjay... Mark Toronto 25 183/154/145 5'5.5 >I like the idea of the modified weight training ideas you gave Chris. Maybe >I'll do bursts of intensity, like you suggested. I find that my heart rate >is getting lower and lower every day on the elliptical. I used to go up to >160 or higher easily, and now I have to go nuts just to get to 155. I'm >going to try the treadmill instead, someone else at the gym suggested your >suggestion, that I might be getting too used to the elliptical. From what you say, I'd recommend both doing treadmill sometimes and doing the high intensity intervals. Your body is getting complacent :-). >But here's where I am confused for weights/cardio: What's this I hear about >weights being a better fat burner than cardio? Or somehting along those [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >clearly working hard with a heart rate of 150+...but with weight training, >my heart rate is not likely that high, I don't sweat much at all. There are a couple of different factors here. Cardio burns more calories while you're doing it -- no question. Weight training doesn't burn as many calories, but it builds muscle. The more muscle you have, the higher metabolic rate you have. This means you burn more calories all day long. Plus it's good for you for a whole lot of other reasons. Don't worry about whether you sweat while weight training. The sign of a good weight workout is whether your muscles are working hard. >For weights, I do a 10lb bicep preacher curl, 40lb dumbells chest press >lying down on the bench, tricep press of about a level 6 weight, shoulder >pull-down of level 5, and a random amount of decline-bench abs. It doesn't sound like you're pushing yourself too much. These are similar to the weights I do, and I'm a 55-year-old woman (but also a competitive lifter). >Should I aim for higher reps, or more weight? I like to do 12-15 reps, 3 set >usually. I'd take it down to 8-10, 3 set if I go higher weights. Aim for more more weight and fewer reps. Go down to 8-10 reps. And if you can complete 3 sets of 10 reps, add more weight. Keep challenging your body. Also, are you doing any lower body exercise, like squats? Because the lower body has larger muscles, these exercises will help you build muscle volume more readily than things like curls. And what about back exercises like deadlifts and lat pulldowns? >As for my body fat percentage... it's 17 per cent. I have no idea what that >means though. How does it rank for my size? This is a healthy percentage. It's unrelated to your size. What's significant is your gender (and, to some extent, age). For men, the "ideal" range I've seen given is 14-17%, and the average range is 18-25%. Serious athletes will have lower percentages. Bodyfat percentage is a far more important measure of health and fitness than weight is. You are not overfat, but losing a little more fat and adding some muscle would be reasonable if you believe it will make you look and feel better. You need to expect it to go more slowly, though, when you're at a healthy level already. Chris 262/155/ (145-150) > For me, personally, I'm not so concerned about gainign muscle, because I > just want to lose overall. I don't care if I lose muscle, I jsut want to get > my overall weight down to my goal of 145, then work on developing muscle. I'm so short on time I mostly just lurk and make a quick comment, but this is wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. You don't need to lose weight, you need to lose fat. Losing muscle will just slow your metabolism down, making you less fit, more sickly, more prone to injury and more likely to regain all the weight you lost. You need to change your thinking. I highly recommend reading anything by Covert Bailey, but start with "the Ultimate Fit or Fat". > I'd be pretty devestated > if I gained 5 lb in a week, so much so, I don't know if I would have the > motivation to continue. This is really bad. What you're essentially saying is that you're yo-yo dieting. Who cares if you regain a pound of water? Gaining a pound of muscle would be cause for celebration. Your mind is very confused about weight. Would you be delighted if your bones got lighter, too? You need to view your changes as things you're doing for the rest of your life. Gaining and losing a pound here or there won't matter in the long run. When losing weight slows down for a while, practice maintenance. You'll need those skills for the next 60 years! > I like the idea of the modified weight training ideas you gave Chris. Maybe > I'll do bursts of intensity, like you suggested. I find that my heart rate > is getting lower and lower every day on the elliptical. I used to go up to > 160 or higher easily, and now I have to go nuts just to get to 155. I'm > going to try the treadmill instead, someone else at the gym suggested your > suggestion, that I might be getting too used to the elliptical. Read about fartleks at Mistress Krista's site. In fact, read EVERYTHING at Mistress Krista's site: http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html > But here's where I am confused for weights/cardio: What's this I hear about > weights being a better fat burner than cardio? Or somehting along those > lines...? Some peopel keep telling me this, but I am not sure I understand. I think it's crucial that you understand how the human body works. You've got one and it needs care. Start with Mistress Krista's site as I said above. Another good resource for you are the articles at www.dolfzine.com. The short version is that building muscle increases your metabolism 24 hours a day. Using muscle makes cellular changes in the way your body uses fuel. It makes you burn more calories. > Some people are telling me that if I do weight training, that form of > exercise will convert more of the fat on my body to energy or to muscle than > if I do cardio. I don't understand this assertion, because in cardio, I'm > clearly working hard with a heart rate of 150+...but with weight training, > my heart rate is not likely that high, I don't sweat much at all. But you get microscopic tears in your muscles and your body has to repair it. It's not beneficial for your cardiovascular system, but it's beneficial for calorie burning and for changing your body into what Covert Bailey calls "a better butter burner." > For weights, I do a 10lb bicep preacher curl, 40lb dumbells chest press > lying down on the bench, tricep press of about a level 6 weight, shoulder > pull-down of level 5, and a random amount of decline-bench abs. Sounds just like a boy. Only doing the things you can see in the bathroom mirror. How about you do squats, deadlifts, bench press and assisted chin-ups, instead? To burn calories you've got to build the LARGE muscles. Those are below the waist: glutes, hamstrings, quads. > Should I aim for higher reps, or more weight? I like to do 12-15 reps, 3 set > usually. I'd take it down to 8-10, 3 set if I go higher weights. May I suggest you get the book Body for Life by Bill Phillips? It has a workout routine in there that you might find useful at this point in your weight loss. > As for my body fat percentage... it's 17 per cent. I have no idea what that > means though. How does it rank for my size? http://www.healthchecksystems.com/bodyfat.htm > Mark > Toronto > 25 183/154/145 5'5.5 Dally New England 39 244/178/170 5'6" > I'm so short on time I mostly just lurk and make a quick comment, but Wow. You're a fountain of useful resources. I'm going to definitely check out as many of those links you gave me. I can't respond to all the ideas you came up with in your message, you obviously took a lot of time to get back to me. All I can say, is, thank you dearly - I appreciate it so much. I think the main thing I need to get my arms around is this idea that having more muscle means burning more calories. I understand your disdain at the part of my message which talked about how I want to lose weight OVERALL, not caring what kind of weight it is. The thing is, is that my GOAL in losing weight is to become "fabulously slim". I want to become lean and slender, not big and bulky. But I guess, from the responses I have got from you and others, and what I am learning, is that I should put on my more muscle, and that in doing that, and with patience, it will start to use more of the fat on the body. Am I somewhat correct? For what I gain in muscle, I must HOPE to lose it in fat. I just want to avoid becoming a muscular, 'bulky cow'. I prefer the lean "model quality" look to the football player look. > Sounds just like a boy. Only doing the things you can see in the > bathroom mirror. Laff laff, cheeky monkey you are, aren't you eh? Pish-tosh, I say, to that... > Dally > New England > 39 244/178/170 5'6" > > Mark > > Toronto > > 25 183/154/145 5'5.5 >For me, personally, I'm not so concerned about gainign muscle, because I >just want to lose overall. I don't care if I lose muscle, I jsut want to get >my overall weight down to my goal of 145, Mark, how can we change your way of thinking. You have GOT to get out of this awful mindset. Its BAD, bad, bad, bad... and as Dally said, wrong, wrong, wrong. What happens. You lose weight fast. Your body will burn off muscle. Well - in the grand sceme of things - its the muscle that makes your metabolism go. Fat doesn't burn calories - muscle does. (** note, I'm being overly simplistic here). Anyhow. Muscle burns calories - fat does not. So, what does that mean - it means you NEED muscle. You need every bit of it. Take for example a 200lb man. Say he's 30% fat (obese). That means he is 60lbs of fat, 140lbs of lean tissue. (lean tissue is comprised of bone, organs and muscle). Guy loses weight as fast as he can with no regard to sparing muscle. He drops down to 150lbs but is still 27% bodyfat. That means he's 40lbs fat, and 109lbs lean tissue. In the 50lbs he lost, 20 was fat, 30 was muscle. That is horrible and will come back to haunt this person for a long time. Now, take the same man, but give him a diet rich in micronutrients, a weight training program to build muscle and a cardio program to burn fat. He loses 50lbs in a slower manner, but in the end he's dropped his bodyfat % down to 19%. That means he has 28lbs of fat on his body and 122lbs of lean tissue. Side by side - the first guy has 109lbs of calorie burning tissue, whereas the other guy has 122lbs of calorie burning tissue. Who do you think can eat more? The 2nd guy. He can eat alot more. Probably close to 500+ cals per day. >But here's where I am confused for weights/cardio: What's this I hear about >weights being a better fat burner than cardio? Or somehting along those [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >clearly working hard with a heart rate of 150+...but with weight training, >my heart rate is not likely that high, I don't sweat much at all. First off - lets get the record straight. Your body CAN NOT CONVERT FAT TO MUSCLE. That's totally, utterly, IMPOSSIBLE! Did I get my point across? :-) Cadio = burns calories during the action. So if you spend 1 hr on the treadmill, you burn those calories then. Weight training = burns calories ALL DAY LONG. To build muscle essentially means you are creating microscopic tears and breaks in the muscle tissue, then the tissue heals, it creates new tissue in between. The action of healing the muscle is muscle growth. This action burns calories. It takes calories for your body to build new tissue. Then once that new tissue is there (lean tissue ) it takes calories to keep it there and keep it active. Muscle burn calories just sitting idle. Fat does not. >For weights, I do a 10lb bicep preacher curl, 40lb dumbells chest press >lying down on the bench, tricep press of about a level 6 weight, shoulder >pull-down of level 5, and a random amount of decline-bench abs. Oh my goodness - you lift like a sissy girl. :-) <cue the Jane Fonda tapes... > Come on... Get with the program. I'm 5'3" and 130lbs and female and I curl 30lbs and bench closer to 90 with dumbells and without being spotted. I can go more on the machines. From the sound of it - bad knee and all - I could kick your a.s in both cardio and weight fitness. :-) > >For weights, I do a 10lb bicep preacher curl, 40lb dumbells chest press > >lying down on the bench, tricep press of about a level 6 weight, shoulder [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and I curl 30lbs and bench closer to 90 with dumbells and without > being spotted. I can go more on the machines. No, no, no! I think the y'all'o'y'as are misunderstanding me. That's two sissy-girl comments I've got now. The 10 lb bicep preacher girl is 10 lb PLUS the bar, which is like 20-30 lb in itself or more. And the chest press is 40 lb PER FIST, so it's about 80 total! Most guys around my size at the gym are doing 35s to 45s per fist... And the tricep press/lat pulldown I do is about 1/3 of the total stack of weights! I hope that allays any previous images of me lifting dinky weights...I certainly don't lift heavy weights, but they're not light by any stretch of the imaginacione... Anyway, I'm really glad to hear your knee is starting to get better... > No, no, no! I think the y'all'o'y'as are misunderstanding me. That's two > sissy-girl comments I've got now. There's a strong undertone of "butch the f.ck up" amongst us weight-lifting fat-losers. You're hearing that. It isn't personal, it's more of a motto. You don't even want to know what FFID means. Dally, whose language cleans up when she's off-line >No, no, no! I think the y'all'o'y'as are misunderstanding me. That's two >sissy-girl comments I've got now. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >certainly don't lift heavy weights, but they're not light by any stretch of >the imaginacione... I took this the way you meant it, actually. I didn't say they were sissy weights, and they're not. But they are comparable to what I lift -- and, as I said before, I'm a 55-year-old woman. When I do DB bench press, I am currently doing it with 40s (that is, one in each hand). Before I injured my shoulder, I could do sets of 10-12 reps with 50s. (I am also the state bench press champion in my age group, so my lifts are not trivial. But they are not impressive for a guy. My trainer can do sets of 10-12 reps with 130s. He's bigger than you, though -- not fat, but way more muscle -- about 185-190 lbs.) But bench pressing 35-45 lb. dumbbells isn't particularly impressive for a guy of any size, unless he's over 70. (Mostly I do barbell bench press. My current max single is around 140. Pre-injury, it was 185.) I rarely do preacher curls but I can do standing curls with 55 lbs. for reps. As far as tricep pressdowns and lat pulls, machines vary too much to compare, but I'm doing at least 1/3 of the stack on most machines -- generally closer to 1/2. A guy at your bodyweight should be able to do pullups, or at least be working on it, rather than just lat pulls. Anyway, I didn't mean to put down what you were doing; everyone has to start somewhere. I just said it didn't sound like you were challenging yourself. And that was clear when you said how many reps you were doing. You need to add weight and decrease reps until you can't quite do it -- then keep working on it until you can, then go up again. That's how you build muscle. Chris > I took this the way you meant it, actually. I didn't say they were > sissy weights, and they're not. But they are comparable to what I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > guy of any size, unless he's over 70. (Mostly I do barbell bench > press. My current max single is around 140. Pre-injury, it was 185.) I still haven't passed 100 on my bench press. My shoulder isn't at 100%, so I can blame it on that, but I think I'm just wimpy and not pushing myself without a spotter. I'm always impressed when I see your weights. I'm just absolutely thrilled to put 25's on the bar now! I really don't think it's nice to compare what people can lift, it's a little like comparing how much money they make. The choices that go into arriving at that place just make it too individual to compare. That said, I don't know many men who bench press less than me. Dally >I still haven't passed 100 on my bench press. My shoulder isn't at >100%, so I can blame it on that, but I think I'm just wimpy and not >pushing myself without a spotter. I'm always impressed when I see your >weights. I'm just absolutely thrilled to put 25's on the bar now! Well, I've trained bench seriously for about 4 years now; I didn't just start being able to lift this much :-). And I'm just coming back from a shoulder injury myself. I am afraid I'm not thrilled with what I'm doing; I just compare it to what I could once do. It does make a difference to have a spotter, though, because you do need to push yourself to get into the heavier weights. I do a lot of things with Tom that I couldn't do without him, like negatives and "forced reps" (extra reps with assistance). You might consider doing more DB bench press, which is safer by yourself but builds the right kind of strength. >I really don't think it's nice to compare what people can lift, it's a >little like comparing how much money they make. The choices that go >into arriving at that place just make it too individual to compare. I agree, and I generally don't. Initially with Mark I just threw in some comment that I didn't think he was pushing himself because he was lifting weights that I can do. I got into more in the next post because he got sort of defensive and because I was amused by his comment that he was lifting what most guys his size in the gym were doing. Must be an odd crowd, seems to me. Believe me, if I spend much time comparing my Olympic lifts to what the younger women are doing, I can get discouraged in a hurry! Chris >I wouldn't recommend dropping your calories much. I don't like that >you're feeling hungry regularly. It might help to balance out your [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >eat a larger breakfast, probably heartier snacks (with some protein), >and sometimes have a bedtime snack of yogurt or cottage cheese. Just an example of my calorie distribution -- a little weird today because I was out running errands during the midday: * breakfast -- 354 calories * snack -- 80 calories * another snack -- 220 calories * late lunch -- 287 calories * dinner -- 270 calories * late snack (really, creatine/sugar solution, which is more an athletic supplement) -- 160 calories Total: 1392 calories -- and I won't go to bed hungry. Chris 262/155/ (145-150) > I want to thank those who replied to me a couple of weeks ago for their > support, it was very helpful and motivating for sure... [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Toronto > 25 - 5'5 - 182/154/145 My thoughts on this: 1. You are experiencing a normal phenomemon of slowing weight loss as you approach normal weight. 2. Now it is time to get off drugs, perhaps slowly, and learn to maintain weight without drugs, as it seems that that'w what you would have to do anyway. 3. Again, you have no choice but learn to eat less calories. The easiest way to do it is to eat more bulk of food. Think hot oat bran cereal, huge vegetable salads etc. Very filling and nutritious, and yet "cheap" in terms of calories. They sell nice premade salads at stores. 4. 1700 calories for a 150 lbs person is not too unreasonable, all in all. You may be miscounging something. 5. 450 calories on an elliptical in 30 minutes is most likely bullshit. Most probably, your elliptical gives you a flawed calculation. i Hey Mark, It sounds like you should eat more often. You shouldn't be hungry guy. Eat vegetables and fruits, take in some good carbs prior to working out to give you energy and feed your muscles. You should want to retain as much muscle as possible and still cut the fat. Don't say you don't mind losing muscle cause that's not the way to go. Do you have fat to lose? Do you see fat over your abs, and in other areas like love handles? If so then you probably can lose more weight. Well I better close for now, take care and let us know how things go for you, Paul 300/197/175 > I want to thank those who replied to me a couple of weeks ago for their > support, it was very helpful and motivating for sure... [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Toronto > 25 - 5'5 - 182/154/145 eat more calories. your body probably is in starvation mode. also eat smaller meals more often...helps to stabilize insulin levels. keep up the exercise as well. |
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