> I have no idea WHAT the kefir you guys are talking about is. I had never
> heard about it prior to the post in the Road trip w/ food allergies thread
> Please explain...

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> > I have no idea WHAT the kefir you guys are talking about is. I had never
> > heard about it prior to the post in the Road trip w/ food allergies thread
> > Please explain...
>
> Kefir is a cultured dairy product, similar to yogurt, but thinner so
> as to be drinkable.
But it has completely different cultures in it from yogurt.
A little bit like comparing bread to beer because they both have yeast in
them :)
Kefir is a russian variation of it (containing Lactobacillus Caucasus, a
beneficial bacteria), in nordic contries they have "Filmj?lk" (containing
Lactococcus Lactis), in Japan there is supposedly a variation on it too
(containing Bifidobacterium Longum).
All the variations are known for its soothing effects on the digestive
system and there are other variants of them containing Lactobacillus
Acidofilus to further improved help with digestive upsets.
There is plenty info on Kefir on http://www.kefir.net/ .

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Ignoramus30884 - 18 Jul 2004 05:17 GMT
It also tastes great.
Once in a while I take a kefir bottle as my lunch.
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Carol Frilegh - 18 Jul 2004 15:18 GMT
> > > I have no idea WHAT the kefir you guys are talking about is. I had never
> > > heard about it prior to the post in the Road trip w/ food allergies
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> A little bit like comparing bread to beer because they both have yeast in
> them :)
The probiotic in dairy yogurt is more beneficial for gastric illness
than the grain fermented Kefir. The yogurt must be made from scratch
and incubated at least 24 hours to foster consumption of bad bacteria
and preservation of the beneficial ones.

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Steve Knight - 18 Jul 2004 18:33 GMT
>The probiotic in dairy yogurt is more beneficial for gastric illness
>than the grain fermented Kefir. The yogurt must be made from scratch
>and incubated at least 24 hours to foster consumption of bad bacteria
>and preservation of the beneficial ones.
bullpucky. Kefir is about the best probiotic out there. about 20 or more cutlers
that are very strong. far more medical benefits contributed for it then yogurt.

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Steve Knight - 18 Jul 2004 18:34 GMT
about all you will lever want to know.
http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html#what-is-kefir

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Carol Frilegh - 18 Jul 2004 22:23 GMT
> about all you will lever want to know.
>
> http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html#what-is-kefir
Steve I've followed a diet for Celiac for 3 years. The diet is proving
effective for autism kids. Here is what is said about kefir for those
children who are very vulnerable to yeast.:
Catherine tamarro comments: What makes kefir different from yogurt is
that kefir is fermented with bacteria and yeast, Elaine Gottschall of
the Specific Carbohydrate Diet
feels that there is the chance of cross-reactivity between a compromised
immune system and yeast from kefir. (Saccharomyces boulardii is illegal
on the diet for the same reason.) She has said that
kefir is approved after some healing takes place but the yogurt is used
until then.
As to "Horse Pucky" my response comes from a scientist and biologist
who has devoted 47 years to the study of gastric disease. I don't think
your claim is definitive and your comment borders on being
disrespectful, irreverant and typically flaming usenet.
http://breakingtheviciouscycle.info/

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Steve Knight - 19 Jul 2004 17:08 GMT
>As to "Horse Pucky" my response comes from a scientist and biologist
>who has devoted 47 years to the study of gastric disease. I don't think
>your claim is definitive and your comment borders on being
>disrespectful, irreverant and typically flaming usenet.
I remember checking your diet and it having honey and other things that
aggravate candida. any sugar is bad and honey. Kefir has really helped my
stomach problems and many others. it helps my dogs allergies too. I never found
yogurt cutlers to help.

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Carol Frilegh - 19 Jul 2004 20:50 GMT
> >As to "Horse Pucky" my response comes from a scientist and biologist
> >who has devoted 47 years to the study of gastric disease. I don't think
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> found
> yogurt cutlers to help.
Honey is optional on that diet. The use of saccharin is suggested as it
has now been cleared of association with cancer. use of fruit can be
mimimized. As the gut heals the candida often subsides. Some poeple
also take anti fungals.