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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / May 2004okay, better new diet...
How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as long as you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of lettuce, 10 carrots, and 10 apples? That's 1370 calories and you would be stuffed to the gills!!!! > How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as long as > you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of lettuce, 10 > carrots, and 10 apples? That's 1370 calories and you would be stuffed to > the gills!!!! For 1370 calories I can come up with more interesting food than that LOL  SignatureThe post you just read, unless otherwise noted, is strictly my opinion and experience. Please interpret accordingly. > For 1370 calories I can come up with more interesting food than that LOL But then, it wouldn't feel like a diet. :p For some reason, some people think they just have to eat a bunch of plain tasting and boring food to feel like they're on a diet. >> For 1370 calories I can come up with more interesting food than that LOL > > But then, it wouldn't feel like a diet. :p For some reason, some people > think they just have to eat a bunch of plain tasting and boring food to > feel like they're on a diet. Heh, true. I suppose it's the "more bang for your buck", theory. Sure you could eat tons and tons of heads of cabbage, and have volume coming out of your ears until you're ready to throw up, and still have "less calories". My version of "more bang for your buck" is getting exactly what I want, and budgeting the calories accordingly. I am not after getting "more plates full". I'll accept the fact that 1 tablespoon of real olive oil on my salad is indeed 120 calories, but I *love* it, it's tasty, and it sticks with me due to it being a slow-digesting fat. And yes, I make room for it in my diet. People in the past have told me, with the air of someone waiting for my jaw to drop, "Oh well for those calories I could have had *four* salads! ". Well, tough. I don't want four salads, I want my *one* salad that tastes exactly the way I want it to taste and feels the way I want it to feel :-) <grin> CM SignatureThe post you just read, unless otherwise noted, is strictly my opinion and experience. Please interpret accordingly. > People in the past have told me, with the air of someone waiting for my jaw > to drop, "Oh well for those calories I could have had *four* salads! ". [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > CM Well, there is certainly something to be said for having what you want! Signaturejmk in NC > Heh, true. I suppose it's the "more bang for your buck", theory. Sure you > could eat tons and tons of heads of cabbage, and have volume coming out of > your ears until you're ready to throw up, and still have "less calories". And it's perfectly possible to have your stomach so full with fibers and water you want to vomit *and* still be hungry. That's extremelly unpleasant... Some people seem not to make the difference between a distanded stomach and satiety... After several high volume low cal diets, I guess you're actually conditioned not to make the difference, which is why things get ugly when you stop the miracle diet and go back to normal food which you will eat until you fill your stomach. > My version of "more bang for your buck" is getting exactly what I want, and > budgeting the calories accordingly. I am not after getting "more plates [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > exactly the way I want it to taste and feels the way I want it to feel :-) > <grin> Plus, a tablespoon of real olive oil actually goes a long way on a salad. I mix real olive oil into Maple Grove Farms carb free/fat free balsamic vinaigrette because it's a flavorful commercial dressing with no sugar. I know I could make my own, but they never come out as good. Jenn And malnourished. > How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as long as > you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of lettuce, 10 > carrots, and 10 apples? That's 1370 calories and you would be stuffed to the > gills!!!! > And malnourished. You misunderstood what she proposed. Jessica suggested to first eat what she mentioned, and then anything to one's liking. It is not 1370 calorie diet. i >> How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as long as >> you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of lettuce, 10 >> carrots, and 10 apples? That's 1370 calories and you would be stuffed to > the >> gills!!!! Signature---------------------------------------------------------------------------- @ @ @ Please forgive my typos as my right hand is injured. @ @ @ char*p="char*p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} "It's never too late to have a happy childhood." > How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as long as > you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of lettuce, 10 > carrots, and 10 apples? That's 1370 calories and you would be stuffed to the > gills!!!! Are you sure about your calorie numbers? If so, your "diet" is not at all a bad start! You may want to look at _Beyond 120 year Diet_ by Roy Walford. A diet that is based on 75 years of research, showing dramatic increase in lifespan of many animal species who are fed a reduced calorie diet that is rich in nutrients. While I eat only 1 big apple per day, I eat approximately as much vegetables by mass as you suggest, so I feel that I can comment. What you proposed would be a great diet healthwise. I would still gain weight on it because high fat calorie dense food does not take much stomach space, and cannot be displaced by greens. So, even though I eat lots of green stuff, I have to watch how much other stuff (esp nuts)I eat. That said, vegs do make maintaining weight considerably easier, and besides, I do not get colds anymore. You are going in the right direction. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- @ @ @ Please forgive my typos as my right hand is injured. @ @ @ char*p="char*p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} "It's never too late to have a happy childhood." >> How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as long as >> you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of lettuce, 10 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >If so, your "diet" is not at all a bad start! Are you kidding? This diet has virtually no protein nor fat! Chris : Are you kidding? This diet has virtually no protein nor fat! : : Chris ...............no chocolate either! ;) > Are you kidding? This diet has virtually no protein nor fat! Why lose weight only by dumping the fat when you can lose a lot more quickly by also cutting the proteins and losing lean mass on top of the fat? :p >>> How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as long as >>> you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of lettuce, 10 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Are you kidding? This diet has virtually no protein nor fat! Re-read the OP. She said to FIRST eat her 1370 calorie stuff, THEN eat all you want. So if you want protein or fat, it would be on top of what she said to eat first. Her diet is a little funny, but quite reasonable as a start. I would, however, eat an equivalent quantity of cabbage instead of lettuce. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- @ @ @ Please forgive my typos as my right hand is injured. @ @ @ char*p="char*p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} "It's never too late to have a happy childhood." >>>> How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as long as >>>> you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of lettuce, 10 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >all you want. So if you want protein or fat, it would be on top of >what she said to eat first. I realized that. But she (actually, I think Jessica Simpson may be a guy) would need to take in a heck of a lot of total calories to make this into a nutritionally balanced diet -- probably double the 1370. If Jessica is a female, that probably wouldn't be a weight-losing strategy. >Her diet is a little funny, but quite reasonable as a start. I don't think so. I think it's a silly start. >I would, however, eat an equivalent quantity of cabbage instead of >lettuce. I expect that might lead to other problems :-). But, unlike lettuce, cabbage at least has some decent nutritional value. Chris >>>>> How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as long as >>>>> you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of lettuce, 10 [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > If Jessica is a female, that probably wouldn't be a weight-losing > strategy. Well, if I was to make it into my weight maintenance diet with, say, 2200 calories, I would have 800 more calories for fat and protein. So Icould eat , say, 100 grams of protein and 45 grams of fat, which is equivalent to a pound of relatively lean meat. Not bad at all. I agree that for people who need to eat much less, such a diet would put much stricter limits on fat/protein. >>Her diet is a little funny, but quite reasonable as a start. > > I don't think so. I think it's a silly start. Iguess it depends on the size of the dieter. >>I would, however, eat an equivalent quantity of cabbage instead of >>lettuce. > > I expect that might lead to other problems :-). But, unlike lettuce, > cabbage at least has some decent nutritional value. Cabbaga is chock full of vitamins and also is very cheap and stores better than lettuce. I can easily eat a pound of cabbage in one sitting and I do not have problems that you alluded to:) I got used to it. Signature---------------------------------------------------------------------------- @ @ @ Please forgive my typos as my right hand is injured. @ @ @ char*p="char*p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} "It's never too late to have a happy childhood." : How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as long as : you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of lettuce, 10 : carrots, and 10 apples? That's 1370 calories and you would be stuffed to the : gills!!!! what??????????????????????? no chocolate? > : How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > long as you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of ^^^^^ > lettuce, 10 > : carrots, and 10 apples? That's 1370 calories and you would be [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > what??????????????????????? > no chocolate? Under "her" plan, it would be OK to eat all the chocolate you want if you drink the water and eat the lettuce, carrots and apples first. I still smell troll on "Jessica Simpson". Tonia 221/184/130 I presume your suggestion isn't a serious one, but I can't make sense of your calorie calculation at all. Water - 0 calories, 10 carrots (say 900g) = 220 calories, 10 average apples = 500, lettuce negligible, but say 30 calories. Total 750. How you make this come to 1370 is beyond me. janice >How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as long as >you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of lettuce, 10 >carrots, and 10 apples? That's 1370 calories and you would be stuffed to the >gills!!!! >I presume your suggestion isn't a serious one, but I can't make sense >of your calorie calculation at all. Water - 0 calories, 10 carrots >(say 900g) = 220 calories, 10 average apples = 500, lettuce >negligible, but say 30 calories. Total 750. How you make this come >to 1370 is beyond me. >janice Hmm... In my database, an average apple is 80 calories, for 800 calories. And 100g of carrots is 43 calories, so 900g (I've no idea how much 10 carrots might actually weigh) would be 387. This would get you to 1187, plus the lettuce. I still wouldn't think it would add up to the OP's total, but it's closer. I wonder why your data is different than mine. Chris >>I presume your suggestion isn't a serious one, but I can't make sense >>of your calorie calculation at all. Water - 0 calories, 10 carrots [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Chris As you say, Chris, hmmmm..... When I first started learning about calories years ago, I think an average eating apple was said to be 40, but more up to date information I've seen in several places indicates around 50. As for carrots, I put a bag of 10 reasonably large ones on the scale to arrive at 900g. I calculated these at around 25 calories per 100g. This also ties in with the 6 calories an ounce I remember learning years ago. I've never thought about the calories in lettuce. I once met a woman in an eating disorders group who was so food-obsessed she weighed her lettuce - that struck me as scary. The database I use for calorie info is www.weightlossresources.co.uk I tried looking at fitday, but I don't get on with it very well as we don't use cups as a unit of measurement here, and the food is expressed in American ways which I don't understand very well (probably just laziness on my part). janice > Hmm... In my database, an average apple is 80 calories, for 800 > calories. And 100g of carrots is 43 calories, so 900g (I've no idea > how much 10 carrots might actually weigh) would be 387. This would > get you to 1187, plus the lettuce. I still wouldn't think it would > add up to the OP's total, but it's closer. I wonder why your data is > different than mine. A lot of databases still list the calories of an "average" apple or orange on the weight of a tennis-ball-sized fruit, from fifty some-odd years ago, instead of the size of the fruits actually sold. Signaturejamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com) "There's a seeker born every minute." Pentax, the Official Violator of Truth in Advertising of the Internet > I presume your suggestion isn't a serious one, but I can't make sense > of your calorie calculation at all. Water - 0 calories, 10 carrots > (say 900g) = 220 calories, 10 average apples = 500, lettuce > negligible, but say 30 calories. Total 750. How you make this come > to 1370 is beyond me. Last time I checked, an apple was about 90 calories. 1370 is not unreasnable. i >>How about this: A diet wherein you can eat anything you want, as long as >>you first drink a half-gallon of water and eat a full head of lettuce, 10 >>carrots, and 10 apples? That's 1370 calories and you would be stuffed to the >>gills!!!! Signature---------------------------------------------------------------------------- @ @ @ Please forgive my typos as my right hand is injured. @ @ @ char*p="char*p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} "It's never too late to have a happy childhood." >> I presume your suggestion isn't a serious one, but I can't make sense >> of your calorie calculation at all. Water - 0 calories, 10 carrots [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Last time I checked, an apple was about 90 calories. Depends on the size, by weight, of the apple. According to the USDA Nutrient Database 1 large apple (3 1/4" diameter, approx 2 per pound) has 110 calories 1 medium apple (2 3/4" diameter, approx 3 per pound - 138g) has 72 calories 1 small apple (2.5" diameter, approx 4 per pound - 106g) has 55 calories So to have about 9 calories *per* apple, you'd have to have something between the medium and large apple. At any rate, I couldn't eat that many apples per day without a tremendous blood sugar fog. SignatureThe post you just read, unless otherwise noted, is strictly my opinion and experience. Please interpret accordingly. >>> I presume your suggestion isn't a serious one, but I can't make sense >>> of your calorie calculation at all. Water - 0 calories, 10 carrots [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > So to have about 9 calories *per* apple, you'd have to have something .... erm make that 90 > between the medium and large apple. > > At any rate, I couldn't eat that many apples per day without a tremendous > blood sugar fog. SignatureThe post you just read, unless otherwise noted, is strictly my opinion and experience. Please interpret accordingly. |
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