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CSPI does not want whole milk in schools

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Ignoramus17184 - 30 Apr 2004 17:55 GMT
I generally like CSPI, but their anti-fat crusade is misplaced and
quite silly.

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Group Wants Lower Fat Milk in Schools
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By FREDERIC J. FROMMER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - An advocacy group that promotes healthy diets called on
the dairy industry to work with Congress to ensure that that less
high-fat milk is offered as part of the school lunch program.

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The Center for Science in the Public Interest in Washington accused
the industry of pushing for language in the school lunch program that
will result in schools serving more high-fat milk.

Legislation to reauthorize the program passed the House this year with
language that requires schools to offer milk with "variety of fat
contents."

The CSPI's nutrition policy director, Margo G. Wootan, said Monday
that since only two types of milk are considered low in fat ? fat free
and 1 percent ? schools will likely wind up offering at least one kind
of high-fat milk to go with it to meet the definition of "variety."

The other types of milk are 2 percent and whole milk, both of which
have higher fat contents.

Susan Ruland, a spokeswoman for the International Dairy Foods
Association, challenged that interpretation of the legislation.

"Variety means more than one," she said. "So a school could decide to
offer fat free and 1 percent" and still meet the bill's guidelines.

Wootan said schools won't necessarily read it that way.

"Variety could mean two, three or four," she said. "When they have to
have a variety, it greatly increases the chances that schools will
feel like they have to offer high-fat milk."

CSPI sent a letter Monday, signed by 200 nutritionists and
researchers, urging the International Dairy Foods Association, the
National Milk Producers Federation, and Dairy Management Inc. to work
to allow more lowfat milk products in schools.

"The most important thing to remember from a nutritional point of view
is that limiting milk choices is a recipe for disaster in schools,"
said Jean Ragalie, dietitian with Dairy Management Inc., which
promotes milk consumption. She argued that would lead children0 to
drinking soft drinks with no nutritional value.

A National Milk Producers Federation spokesman, Chris Galen, said he
would let the other dairy groups speak on his group's behalf.

The CSPI also criticized another provision in the bill that would keep
schools from restricting the sale of milk in vending machines.

"Many flavored milks that could be available in school vending
machines or snack lines contain more calories than a 20-ounce soda,
and contain considerably more saturated fat," the nutritionists wrote
in their letter.

But Ruland said that provision was aimed at ensuring that exclusive
contracts with soda companies don't force milk out of vending machines.

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Jarkat2002 - 30 Apr 2004 18:15 GMT
>Group Wants Lower Fat Milk in Schools

oh great ... whole milk in schools are the LEAST of a schools problems.
What about those chicken pcs, junk food pizza, soda machines, snack machines,
etc.  as far as food goes.

~Kat

"The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese."
MH - 02 May 2004 23:14 GMT
I LOATHE those psychos.

I don't want CSPI in our schools.

Martha

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> "The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese."
Bob in CT - 30 Apr 2004 18:49 GMT
They're idiots.  Kids should drink milk or water.

> I generally like CSPI, but their anti-fat crusade is misplaced and
> quite silly.

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Ignoramus17184 - 30 Apr 2004 18:53 GMT
> They're idiots.  Kids should drink milk or water.

that's what mine drinks. (3yo)

i

>> I generally like CSPI, but their anti-fat crusade is misplaced and
>> quite silly.

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Venger - 30 Apr 2004 22:13 GMT
> The Center for Science in the Public Interest

Any group proclaiming to act on behalf of the "public interest" rarely does.

Venger
Roger Zoul - 30 Apr 2004 23:22 GMT
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:: Any group proclaiming to act on behalf of the "public interest"
:: rarely does.

Yeah, like the government.

:: Venger
Venger - 01 May 2004 00:12 GMT
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> Yeah, like the government.

At least you have a voice in government.

Venger
Walter Bushell - 01 May 2004 19:36 GMT
> > :: "Ignoramus17184" <ignoramus17184@NOSPAM.17184.invalid> wrote in
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> Venger

I wouldn't be too sure about that. If you name happens to be close to
that of a felon etc., you can be striken from the voter ranks.
Venger - 01 May 2004 21:36 GMT
> > > :: Any group proclaiming to act on behalf of the "public interest"
> > > :: rarely does.
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> I wouldn't be too sure about that. If you name happens to be close to
> that of a felon etc., you can be striken from the voter ranks.

That's a correctable error, not a process design. All in all, you can run
for office, vote for office, and speak to your representatives in office.
Not too shabby.

Venger
Walter Bushell - 02 May 2004 04:41 GMT
> > > > :: Any group proclaiming to act on behalf of the "public interest"
> > > > :: rarely does.
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>
> That's a correctable error, not a process design.

Well maybe, it did happen in Florida under Jeb Bush.

>All in all, you can run
> for office, vote for office, and speak to your representatives in office.
> Not too shabby.
>
> Venger
Venger - 02 May 2004 05:48 GMT
> > > I wouldn't be too sure about that. If you name happens to be close to
> > > that of a felon etc., you can be striken from the voter ranks.
> >
> > That's a correctable error, not a process design.
>
> Well maybe, it did happen in Florida under Jeb Bush.

And those people just what, happened to all be Democrat? Shyeah... what
possible presumption can you make that any such event should be anything but
proportional to the general population distribution? Why would someone's
name similarity to a felon somehow equate to a similar vote pattern and
hence, be a politically aimed shot?

Venger
Heywood Mogroot - 03 May 2004 06:07 GMT
> > > > I wouldn't be too sure about that. If you name happens to be close to
> > > > that of a felon etc., you can be striken from the voter ranks.
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> name similarity to a felon somehow equate to a similar vote pattern and
> hence, be a politically aimed shot?

because the affected people were all black, and black people vote
democratic by a wide margin.
harpoo - 05 May 2004 23:58 GMT
> because the affected people were all black, and black people vote
> democratic by a wide margin.

What does this have to do with the topic at hand...  The way I feel
about this, is that the children need to be taught that if they are
drinking high fat drinks every single meal, they will get fat.  Why
does it have to be so political?  This is crazy.  It is simple
nutritional training.
Steve - 06 May 2004 00:07 GMT
> What does this have to do with the topic at hand...  The way I feel
> about this, is that the children need to be taught that if they are
> drinking high fat drinks every single meal, they will get fat.  Why
> does it have to be so political?  This is crazy.  It is simple
> nutritional training.

From what I read most school cafeterias have meals somewhere between
7/11 and the food court in the mall as far as quality goes.

If you are going to worry about what kids are eating worrying about them
guzzling whole milk is not it.

Steve
harpoo - 07 May 2004 16:37 GMT
> If you are going to worry about what kids are eating worrying about them
> guzzling whole milk is not it.
>
> Steve

Steve, you are correct...  We need to get these kids exercising.  Why
do we take out PE, take away recess, take away Health classes, and
wonder why they are gaining weight?  We need to get them moving, and
get them active.
Walter Bushell - 07 May 2004 20:33 GMT
> > If you are going to worry about what kids are eating worrying about them
> > guzzling whole milk is not it.
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> wonder why they are gaining weight?  We need to get them moving, and
> get them active.

Because PE is likely to turn kids off to exercise. I know it made it
less attractive to me. My least favorite course.
FOB - 07 May 2004 23:21 GMT
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In news:a5d48e7c.0405070737.12e305bd@posting.google.com,
harpoo <harpoo_89@yahoo.com> stated

| Steve, you are correct...  We need to get these kids exercising.  Why
| do we take out PE, take away recess, take away Health classes, and
| wonder why they are gaining weight?  We need to get them moving, and
| get them active.
Steve - 07 May 2004 23:26 GMT
>>If you are going to worry about what kids are eating worrying about them
>>guzzling whole milk is not it.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Steve, you are correct...  We need to get these kids exercising.  Why
> do we take out PE, take away recess, take away Health classes,

...... money.  Parents wanted to pay less taxes, schools got less money,
now they are paying more money to treat their obese kids.

Steve
alexbrown77 - 06 May 2004 01:01 GMT
Why not offer a variety of drinks and let the kids decide or let the
parents pack a lunch? Why do we only have to offer one option because
some of the kids have a problem. That is not fair to the rest of the
kids.
Walter Bushell - 01 May 2004 19:34 GMT
> > The Center for Science in the Public Interest
>
> Any group proclaiming to act on behalf of the "public interest" rarely does.
>
> Venger

Now if they were to replace the whole milk with heavy cream, I could
endorse it.
AntwainBarbour - 04 May 2004 22:37 GMT
Taking milk and soda, etc. out of schools is not going to solve the
problem.  It should be up to parents to teach their children what they
can have and how much of it is acceptable.  Taking these things away
won't keep kids from getting them.  They need to be taught, not
scolded.
Roger Zoul - 30 Apr 2004 22:14 GMT
:: I generally like CSPI, but their anti-fat crusade is misplaced and
:: quite silly.

Yeah, next they'll be trying to say let those on food stamps not hve whole
milk....where does it stop, Ig?
Ignoramus17184 - 01 May 2004 02:57 GMT
>:: I generally like CSPI, but their anti-fat crusade is misplaced and
>:: quite silly.
>
> Yeah, next they'll be trying to say let those on food stamps not hve whole
> milk....where does it stop, Ig?

An excellent point. Finally, I decided to concede that I do not
consider the minnesota ban to be a good idea.

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