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Tara - 04 May 2004 16:22 GMT
I'm having a tough day today.  I have been doing so well for the last week
and now that I'm 1 week into it, I find my motivation a bit waning.  Yes, I
really want to do this and yes, I know it's a lifestyle change and not a
diet.  But I think I'm getting bored with eating the same things day in and
day out.  I'm doing the 14-day Rapid Start plan of Dr. Phil's and it seems
like week 2 is just like week 1.  I'm looking forward to NEXT week because I
can actually start eating bread again.  I miss my carbs. LOL  I'm really
just whining in general and I'm sure I can stick with this.  I just have a
short attention span. LOL
What are some ways you've jump started your motivation to keep going?

TIA,

Tara

258/227/150
Alex - 04 May 2004 18:14 GMT
>I'm having a tough day today.  I have been doing so well for the last week
>and now that I'm 1 week into it, I find my motivation a bit waning.  Yes, I
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>
>258/227/150

Hi Tara,

I'll jump in on this one! I try on pants/shorts/whatever. You know,
the ones you bought years ago and held onto because you wil fit in
them again! I have varying levels of size so I go for the closest fit
first. For instance, I put on a pair of shirts this morning that 2
weeks ago were too tight and today fit fine. That is a great motivator
to keep going! Nothing like the promise of what I *will* be able to
wear to keep me on track. LOL.

Ally
212/196/160
Alex - 04 May 2004 18:16 GMT
>>I'm having a tough day today.  I have been doing so well for the last week
>>and now that I'm 1 week into it, I find my motivation a bit waning.  Yes, I
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>Ally
>212/196/160

LOLOLOL make that shorts, not shirts.... :-D

Ally
212/196/160
Cynthia Perry - 04 May 2004 18:40 GMT
>I'm having a tough day today.  I have been doing so well for the last week
>and now that I'm 1 week into it, I find my motivation a bit waning.  Yes, I
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>
>258/227/150

I don't know anything about Dr. Phil's diet... but I sympathize! I
hate eating the exact same thing all the time. Is there any way at all
you can vary them and still stick to the plan? (I'm thinking
preparation, spices, condiments, marinades, that sort of thing...)

Cynthia
Gloria - 04 May 2004 21:38 GMT
Tara,
I'm like you , I mean that I have too may BAD DAYS and I slow myself way
down because I 'give-in' to a binge SOMETIMES! Hey, the reason we ARE
doing this IS BECAUSE we are this kind of person! NOT EASY to lose this
weight ETC!!!! Hang in there!! IT WILL be okay as you find a way to
strengthen yorself! I am better today but Mon. was NOT good. I'm back
plus stronger too!

<HUGS> to you!

glo
Beverly - 04 May 2004 22:01 GMT
> I'm having a tough day today.  I have been doing so well for the last week
> and now that I'm 1 week into it, I find my motivation a bit waning.  Yes, I
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>
> 258/227/150

It's tough to keep the motivation going 24/7.  Just keep thinking about
those things you want to do when you're at goal.  My biggest motivator has
been keeping my health in my retirement years.  I'll be retiring in a few
years and I want to spend my time doing things with the grandkids, riding
bikes, traveling, etc.  These would be in jepordy if I were in poor health.
Hey....I have a great-grandchild on the way and I want to be around to
teach him/her to ride bikes, too.

Can you substitute some of the foods on the 14 day plan for more variety?
I've semi followed his 14 day plan before but didn't go strictly by the
book.  I simply took the outline of carbs/protein/fats allowed for the day
and inserted by own foods.

Beverly
Heywood Mogroot - 04 May 2004 22:58 GMT
> What are some ways you've jump started your motivation to keep going?

Minigoals. I keep track of my BMI, which is dropping a full point
every month (my current end goal is a 24.0 BMI, though I won't stop
dieting until I can fit into some old-school 501's that got tight ten
years ago.

Tracking inches on the waistline, fat on the legs.

Graphing (in Excel) my weight loss over time, so I can enjoy a picture
of my progress. It would have been fun to take daily pictures to do
some sort of "morphing" thing, but I'm too lazy for that.

Thinking about where I want to be in 3-4 months, and eating the same
thing every day for a while isn't necessarily a curse.

It's kind of liberating in its way, in that it simplifies calorie
tracking, and in my case leaves more calorie space for variations on
dinner.

Plus I got a LOT hungrier more often on my former non-diet WOE (with
all the sugar and starch bombarding my system). I'd never know I was
on a 1000-kcal day deficit with this WOE, but my 12-week weight drop
doesn't lie (except that I need to exercise more to limit muscle loss,
especially to my upper body).

Heywood

232/208/182
determined - 05 May 2004 01:02 GMT
> I'm having a tough day today.  I have been doing so well for the last week
> and now that I'm 1 week into it, I find my motivation a bit waning.  Yes, I
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> short attention span. LOL
> What are some ways you've jump started your motivation to keep going?

I kept on track by eating pretty low cal during the week, and having a
refeed or "free" day on the weekend.  Usually it wasn't a whole day, but one
good sized meal - usually an Outback steak, creamy onion soup, veggies, a
beer, and a chocolate thunder brownie.  yeah, it was a ton of calories in
one sitting, but it kept me on my eating during the week because I knew if I
was "good" I would get to splurge.  Some people might think this is
unhealthy, but it worked for me.  I survived months of eating tuna, veggies,
cottage cheese and protein powders...  Then again, I still eat that stuff,
but not with the regularity like when i first started out.

det
Beverly - 05 May 2004 01:53 GMT
> > I'm having a tough day today.  I have been doing so well for the last week
> > and now that I'm 1 week into it, I find my motivation a bit waning.  Yes,
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> det

I think this method works for many people.  When I originally lost all my
weight on the WW program that's exactly what I did.  I was good 6 days and 2
meals.  The one meal a week was whatever I wanted.  I found that as time
progressed I really wasn't eating that much more at this one splurge meal.

Beverly
Cynthia Perry - 05 May 2004 06:31 GMT
>> > I'm having a tough day today.  I have been doing so well for the last
>week
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>
>Beverly

I agree... I like to have one meal where I can eat what I want... even
if it's fast food or something with a lot of calories in one sitting.
Most often, it's not fast food, it's something like a Subway salad and
maybe two cookies. Or a hamburger and a blizzard at Dairy Queen.

Then I can go right back to my normal healthy eating and do fine. Of
course, sometimes, one finds this *free* meal really useful, like
tonight, where we had to go out to eat for a party for a co-worker
who's leaving the Williston NWS office. Since I *knew* we'd be eating
at Applebee's and I wanted a nice meal, I worked out extra hard, then
had what I wanted (margarita and fiesta lime chicken) and didn't worry
much over it. I also ate lighter beforehand.

I expect the damage was not too bad.

Cynthia
Ignoramus28446 - 05 May 2004 03:22 GMT
Hi Tara,

Many of us find our motivation waning. I also find my motivation
waning at times. At those moments, I try to remember that I have no
alternative.

As for Dr Phil plan, are you sure that it is impossible to have
variety?

Also, you lost 30 lbs and you were quite overweight! It is never easy
to lose weight from such starting point. How fast did you lose it? Can
you try to maintain your loss for a little while, and resume losing
weight? Or just eat a bit more? Try to think of solutions.

i

> I'm having a tough day today.  I have been doing so well for the last week
> and now that I'm 1 week into it, I find my motivation a bit waning.  Yes, I
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>
> 258/227/150

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Tara - 05 May 2004 15:02 GMT
The 258 I weighed was the 2nd week in February just after I had my daughter.
I lost about 22 pounds between February and May but it was mostly water
pregnancy weight and I didn't change my eating habits at all during that
time.  But that's the most I've ever weighed and I consider that my
"starting point".  I was 235 when I started Dr. Phil and now I'm 227.  I
lost 8 pounds in a week and a half.

I do substitute some of Dr. Phil's suggestions for similar items.  And I
vary how I prepare the food.  I think I'm just missing my carbs.  I really
enjoy pasta and bread and I'm going through withdrawals.  I do get to have
bread next week and I indulged in some fat-free pretzels yesterday, which
satisfied a craving I was having.  I also have a terrible sweet tooth and I
think I was just whining more about that.
Thanks for the suggestions and for listening.  I value your support!

Tara

"Ignoramus28446"

> As for Dr Phil plan, are you sure that it is impossible to have
> variety?
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> you try to maintain your loss for a little while, and resume losing
> weight? Or just eat a bit more? Try to think of solutions.
Ignoramus24994 - 05 May 2004 16:23 GMT
> The 258 I weighed was the 2nd week in February just after I had my daughter.
> I lost about 22 pounds between February and May but it was mostly water
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> think I was just whining more about that.
> Thanks for the suggestions and for listening.  I value your support!

I did not know that Dr Phil plan was low carb. Live and learn!

In any case, 227 lbsis quite a serious health danger (assuming some
typical female size), and so some initial discomfort is worth it.

Not that I am being helpful, here... But just try whining about your
problems here, maybe that will help you get over them.

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Steve - 05 May 2004 15:50 GMT
> What are some ways you've jump started your motivation to keep going?

Reading weight loss success stories inspire me a lot.
Weightwatchers.com always has a few.

Steve
Doug Freyburger - 05 May 2004 20:18 GMT
> What are some ways you've jump started your motivation to keep going?

For me it boils down to the real issue and asking myself the real
question.

The real issue is - If I quit I gain it all back and then some.  If I
stay on the plan, even *try* to stay on the plan, I keep most of it
off.  If I really adhere to the actual directions, I lose.

The real question is - Do I want today to be the day I decide that I
want to gain it all back and then some?  Or is today I want to try,
and thus to at least keep it off?  Or is tday the day I want to
follow the directions, all of the directions, and lose?

It's a very hard set of questions even when I ask myself that way.
There are days I would really rather have a bag of Fritos and head
back up in weight.  But there are a lot more day I want to try,
enough to keep it off.  And there are enough days I am willing to
follow the directions that I don't keep drifting up.

Sure, loss motivates.  The vast majority of time is NOT spent in
the loss phases.  If you can't find your way to find some other
motivation, you're already in severe danger.
CygnusX-1 - 06 May 2004 03:35 GMT
What motivated me was a diet competition we had on the job.

The rules:
1. $50 to get in
2. weekly weigh-ins (first and last weigh-in you must remove shoes, belts,
and stuff from pockets)
3. must lose 2 pounds each week or ante up $5
4. if you miss a weigh-in, you have to lose 4 pounds or pay up $10
5. whoever lose the most weight, based on calculation of of weekly
weigh ins.

We had the contest for about 8 weeks. Thus if you never pay the $5
penalty, you would have lost 16 pounds. I barely won the contest, losing
about 28 pounds. Now I am down to my college weight, I'd like to lose
about 8 more pounds, bringing me down to high skool weight.

Basically I followed the subway (or quiznos) diet. Eating a 6in turkey
or roasted chicken breast with no cheese, *loaded* with veggies, and the
low fat sauces, baked chips, diet pop about twice a day. I'd snack on
fat free pretzels, 94% fat free popcorn, etc. BTW, I did the subway diet
years ago, before jared made it famous ;-)

The contest made it fun for me. My teammates knew that peanut butter was
my weakness: I never touched the peanut butter candy bars on my
monitor. ;-)  

Good luck..you can do it

BTW, what do the numbers below your sig mean? I am a noob here.

> I'm having a tough day today.  I have been doing so well for the last week
> and now that I'm 1 week into it, I find my motivation a bit waning.  Yes, I
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>
> 258/227/150
Beverly - 06 May 2004 12:50 GMT
> BTW, what do the numbers below your sig mean? I am a noob here.

starting weight / current weight / goal weight
Steve - 06 May 2004 12:53 GMT
> What motivated me was a diet competition we had on the job.
>
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> 5. whoever lose the most weight, based on calculation of of weekly
> weigh ins.

This is an interesing idea.  The only part I don't like is the 2 pounds
a week bar.  I read in many places that people who don't lose more then
a pound a week have a better chance of keeping the weight off.  That and
losing a pound a week is comfortable....2 lbs would add the sizzle to
the competiton.

Cool idea....prizes for motivation, peer pressure pushing you to the
goal as well as a shared experience with people you work with everyday
to support you.

Steve
Heywood Mogroot - 06 May 2004 20:55 GMT
> > What motivated me was a diet competition we had on the job.
> >
> This is an interesing idea.  The only part I don't like is the 2 pounds
> a week bar.

2lbs a week is great if you don't mind losing a lot of muscle tissue
with that.

>  I read in many places that people who don't lose more then
> a pound a week have a better chance of keeping the weight off.

yup. Muscle will reload with water once you go out of starvation mode.

>  That and
> losing a pound a week is comfortable....2 lbs would add the sizzle to
> the competiton.

I'm losing ~2lbs a week, but wouldn't recommend it to most people.

> Cool idea....prizes for motivation, peer pressure pushing you to the
> goal as well as a shared experience with people you work with everyday
> to support you.

I think it's a crappy idea. People should choose a diet plan that fits
them, not a crash diet that is impossible to keep.
CygnusX-1 - 07 May 2004 02:50 GMT
Steve <stevesusenet@ATyuhoodotComs> wrote in message
> This is an interesing idea.  The only part I don't like is the 2 pounds
> a week bar.  I read in many places that people who don't lose more then
> a pound a week have a better chance of keeping the weight off.  That and
> losing a pound a week is comfortable....2 lbs would add the sizzle to
> the competiton.

I don't see 2 lbs a week as being too hard. I read once that if the average
person reduces their total daily food by 300 calories, their weight will
decrease by about a pound in a week. You'd be suprised at how easy you can lose
weight by doing basic things: eating less, eat dinner by 7pm, drink water,
doing basic excercise like walking, etc. It does take discipline tho...

> Cool idea....prizes for motivation, peer pressure pushing you to the
> goal as well as a shared experience with people you work with everyday
> to support you.

Yeah its fun. Since we would see each other at work all the time, knew
each other weaknesses, etc, it made it pretty competitive. When dieting,
it is always better to do it with others than by yourself, since misery
luvz company ;-)
Heywood Mogroot - 07 May 2004 20:51 GMT
> Steve <stevesusenet@ATyuhoodotComs> wrote in message

> I don't see 2 lbs a week as being too hard. I read once that if the average
> person reduces their total daily food by 300 calories, their weight will
> decrease by about a pound in a week.

More like a half-pound, assuming you're losing fat and not muscle.

> You'd be suprised at how easy you can lose
> weight by doing basic things: eating less, eat dinner by 7pm, drink water,
> doing basic excercise like walking, etc. It does take discipline tho...

I've been losing 2lbs/week since February. It's been relatively
painless so far, but I have drastically simplified my eating.

And one day off the plan, like eating restuarant food or going to a
bbq, torpedoes 3 or 4 days of progress. And once you fall behind on a
nominally 1000 kcal/day diet, it takes a long time to catch up.

> > Cool idea....prizes for motivation, peer pressure pushing you to the
> > goal as well as a shared experience with people you work with everyday
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> it is always better to do it with others than by yourself, since misery
> luvz company ;-)

Instead of a short-term crash diet you should have set the goals 5
months out or more.
Doug Freyburger - 07 May 2004 23:10 GMT
> > This is an interesing idea.  The only part I don't like is the 2 pounds
> > a week bar.  I read in many places that people who don't lose more then
> > a pound a week have a better chance of keeping the weight off.  That and
> > losing a pound a week is comfortable....

That and if you gain it all back you've wasted all of your effort so
in the long run keeping it off aces any loss rate during that loss.

> I don't see 2 lbs a week as being too hard.

Danger Will Robinson.  You are setting yourself up for a fall.  Fat is
around 3500 calories per pound.  To lose 2 per week that's 1000 calories
per day.  That rate is the theoretical *maximum* for most folks.  It is
something to dream about not to consider easy.

> I read once that if the average person reduces their total daily food
> by 300 calories, their weight will  decrease by about a pound in a week.

The problem: Human metabolism is NOT fixed.  If you just reduce by 300
calories, it is very possible for your metabolism to reduce by 300
calories and you can stall.  Generally the more you reduce intake the
more the body reacts, so it you keep it mild like 300 calories your
body might not adjust while if you reduce 600 your body could adjust
the whole amount.  It's a fine balancing act where intake does NOT
set weight loss rate.
 
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