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Jarkat2002 - 05 May 2004 17:50 GMT
I heard a little blurb about Pepsi putting a 'low carb' cola on the market.  
Hello?  Isn't diet Pepsi already low carb?  I don't have any in the house but
the diet coke I have says zero carbs.
I'm thinking 'low carb water' will be next.  Maybe even low carb air.
~Kat

"The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese."
Chrys - 05 May 2004 17:51 GMT
> I heard a little blurb about Pepsi putting a 'low carb' cola on the market.
> Hello?  Isn't diet Pepsi already low carb?  I don't have any in the house but
> the diet coke I have says zero carbs.
> I'm thinking 'low carb water' will be next.  Maybe even low carb air.
> ~Kat

Coke is doing this too.  Both products are more light verions of the
orginals, and are supposed to have around half the calories and carbs of
regular colas, but without the aftertaste of the 0-calorie diet verions.
Crafting Mom - 05 May 2004 18:01 GMT
> I heard a little blurb about Pepsi putting a 'low carb' cola on the
> market.
> Hello?  Isn't diet Pepsi already low carb?  I don't have any in the house
> but the diet coke I have says zero carbs.
> I'm thinking 'low carb water' will be next.  Maybe even low carb air.

And their "low carb" cola, if you're referring to "Pepsi Edge", is still
full of corn syrup, sugar and all the junk that people on low carb diets
reportedly try to avoid.  I can't blame Pepsi, though, they're giving "the
people" what they want, the idea that they can be thinner and healthier
without actually having to do the brain work of changing their lifestyle.
They are simply meeting demand.   They've discovered a sub-group of people
who don't care WHAT goes in their mouths, only that the carb count is low,
and they are capitalizing on it :-)

I wonder when we'll get back to the days when diets (ways of eating) will be
about actual food... Food itself, with a little creativity and imagination
does not have to be boring and dull to be healthy, good for you, and
filling.

But yeah, "low carb water" uh... ya think?  Just like companies who sell
vegetable oil and proclaim, as if it were a feat of that company, that it's
"zero cholesterol"... well, duh.
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Ignoramus24994 - 05 May 2004 18:10 GMT
What a modern marvel, a low carb cola in which 100% of calories come
from carbs.

This is like taking a sugar cube, splitting it in half, saying that a
half of that cube is low carb, and selling those halves to fat suckers
trying to lose weight. Let's get real here people.

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223/173/180
Pat - 05 May 2004 19:02 GMT
> What a modern marvel, a low carb cola in which 100% of calories come
> from carbs.
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> i
> 223/173/180

Also, it doesn't even talk about the damage being done to teeth from being
constantly bathed in phosphoric acid ..
Roger Zoul - 05 May 2004 19:30 GMT
:: What a modern marvel, a low carb cola in which 100% of calories come
:: from carbs.
::
:: This is like taking a sugar cube, splitting it in half, saying that a
:: half of that cube is low carb, and selling those halves to fat
:: suckers trying to lose weight. Let's get real here people.

There is a car wash near me which displays a sign saying "Our Water is Low
Carb".

heh.
Jarkat2002 - 05 May 2004 19:54 GMT
>There is a car wash near me which displays a sign saying "Our Water is Low
>Carb".
>
>heh.

lol, that's funny :) I would go there!
~Kat

"The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese."
Jackie Patti - 06 May 2004 03:34 GMT
> There is a car wash near me which displays a sign saying "Our Water is Low
> Carb".
>
> heh.

Now *that* is some low-carb marketing that I like.  ;)

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Lictor - 06 May 2004 09:23 GMT
> I wonder when we'll get back to the days when diets (ways of eating) will be
> about actual food... Food itself, with a little creativity and imagination
> does not have to be boring and dull to be healthy, good for you, and
> filling.

I doubt we're going back there. There is little profit to be done with real
food, so there is no real urge to produce it. Besides, the marketing people
tell us consummers want food that is "fun, healthy, convenient and available
anytime anywhere". According to them, that's food like surimi (both fish and
turkey surimis - turkey being a marvelous animal that can produce 1 pound of
"meat" when fed one pound of "food"), cheese sticks, sausages in balls and
stuff like that.

> But yeah, "low carb water" uh... ya think?  Just like companies who sell
> vegetable oil and proclaim, as if it were a feat of that company, that it's
> "zero cholesterol"... well, duh.

I'm glad this one is illegal here, it's a fraud. Litterally. It's "trying to
invest a products with qualities and virtues that are either unproven or
false or that are natural properties of this kind of product and that were
not the result of an extra work or special process". In other word, you're
using false claims to set your product appart from its competitors, though
it's a quality that belongs to the whole food category. That's the
definition of fraud. Also, plain unproven claims are illegal, Actimel has
been hit by the equivalent of our FDA. Such claims as "regulates your immune
system" or "reinforce your instestine barrier" are now illegal and have been
removed. The only legal stuff left for Actimel to put on the labels is
"helps reinforce your natural defenses" (which anything with vitamins does,
especially vitamin C). Likewise, it's completely illegal to label oil as
cholesterol free, milk as salt free, water as no-cal or candies as fat free.
Our equivalent of the FDA is currently trying to limit these claims to
products that meet three criterias :
- They must be nutritionnally correct (not too high in fat, carbs and salt).
For instance, it will become illegal to claim your cookies are high in iron
or that your chocolate cereals are high in vitamins B. They may be, but you
get so much sh.t along with your vitamins that marketing them as health
products will be considered fraudulent.
- The claim must be in line with what you should expect from that kind of
food. In other words, it should not blur the line between food groups. You
can claim your orange juice is especially high in vitamin C, as one would
expect OJ to have vitamin C. But you won't be able to claim it has high
calcium content, as this is not a property commonly associated with OJ.
- You can only claim high vitamin or mineral contents for nutriments where
deficit has been proven in at least a part of the population. That's iron,
B9, B6, D here. Moreover, these claims might become illegal for nutriments
that have a risk of overdose or are harmful in large quantities : iron,
calcium, zinc, phosphorus, A, D...
Of course, the food industry is throwing fits and trying everything it can
to prevent that proposal from becoming a law.
Tara - 05 May 2004 19:58 GMT
On the Today show this morning, a guy was saying that he speculates the "low
carb" diet craze is on it's last legs.  I don't know about that.  But I do
agree all these products are getting out of hand.  When T.G.I. Fridays
endorses it's Atkin's Friendly Menu, it's gone too far. LOL

Tara

> I heard a little blurb about Pepsi putting a 'low carb' cola on the market.
> Hello?  Isn't diet Pepsi already low carb?  I don't have any in the house but
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>
> "The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese."
Steve - 06 May 2004 18:17 GMT
> On the Today show this morning, a guy was saying that he speculates the "low
> carb" diet craze is on it's last legs.  I don't know about that.  But I do
> agree all these products are getting out of hand.  When T.G.I. Fridays
> endorses it's Atkin's Friendly Menu, it's gone too far. LOL

IMHO it will die, like the low fat diet craze, both have the same faults.

What were the reasons that the speaker gave?

Steve
 
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