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Not so fresh meat
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Ignoramus32552 - 14 May 2004 15:30 GMT Being a cheap bastard, I hate throwing food away. So, I became aware of a method of dealing with not so fresh meat, so that it does not need to be thrown away or fed to the chickens.
Suppose that you have some not so fresh meat: a week old rotisserie chicken, deli meat etc. It is not yet stinky, but it is not appetising and maybe somewhat mushy on the edges, but barely.
Here's what one can do:
1. Cut away the really bad parts and feed those to the chickens or throw away.
2. Grind the rest in a meat grinder, or cut in small pieces, and refry with onions and garlic. Do it thoroughly, at some point add some water to the pan and cover it to simmer. It should all he heated to at least the boiling point of water.
3. At the same time, cook some buckwheat cereal or some other such hot cereal, such as whole grain hot cereal made from simply whole grains. Low carbers may cook less of it than others. This hot cereal should be grainy, otherwise it will taste strange when mixed with meat.
4. After cooking that hot cereal, mix it with the meat and fry on the frying pan just a bit more time, to get unneeded moisture out and to ensure that absolutely all bacteria die.
The result is fairly good tasting food that can be stored in the fridge rather well for a few days.
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Roger Zoul - 14 May 2004 16:18 GMT After eating 3 month old eggs, I'll grant you a pass on this, Ig :)
:: Being a cheap bastard, I hate throwing food away. So, I became aware :: of a method of dealing with not so fresh meat, so that it does not :: need to be thrown away or fed to the chickens. Ignoramus32552 - 14 May 2004 16:52 GMT > After eating 3 month old eggs, I'll grant you a pass on this, Ig :) that was brave of you (given that you were not sure that 3 month old eggs can be safe). Anyhow, obviously, when I mentioned is not a way to cook spoiled meat, just "not fresh" meat.
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>:: Being a cheap bastard, I hate throwing food away. So, I became aware >:: of a method of dealing with not so fresh meat, so that it does not >:: need to be thrown away or fed to the chickens.
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CarbAddict - 14 May 2004 17:30 GMT >> In article <10a9opmajrd4t0b@corp.supernews.com>, Roger Zoul wrote: >> >> After eating 3 month old eggs, I'll grant you a pass on this, Ig :)
> From: Ignoramus32552 (14 May 2004 15:52:52 GMT) > MsgId: <c82q0k$7vf$0@pita.alt.net> > > that was brave of you (given that you were not sure that 3 month old > eggs can be safe). Brave for eating spoiled eggs.
Ignoramus32552 - 14 May 2004 17:51 GMT >>> In article <10a9opmajrd4t0b@corp.supernews.com>, Roger Zoul wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Brave for eating spoiled eggs. they were not spoiled.
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Gunnloth - 14 May 2004 17:13 GMT > Being a cheap bastard, I hate throwing food away. So, I became aware > of a method of dealing with not so fresh meat, so that it does not [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > The result is fairly good tasting food that can be stored in the > fridge rather well for a few days. A method used in some 3rd world countries is to overseason the meat with hot spices. That way the you can't taste if it is bad meat or not. ;/
Regards, Gunn
Ignoramus32552 - 14 May 2004 17:22 GMT >> Being a cheap bastard, I hate throwing food away. So, I became aware >> of a method of dealing with not so fresh meat, so that it does not [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > A method used in some 3rd world countries is to overseason the meat with hot > spices. That way the you can't taste if it is bad meat or not. ;/ Also, I believe that spices are used to preserve meat, as well.
My method not only adds the taste of onion and garlic to improve taste, but it also kills all bacteria due to thorough frying.
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Roger Zoul - 14 May 2004 17:23 GMT :: A method used in some 3rd world countries is to overseason the meat :: with hot spices. That way the you can't taste if it is bad meat or :: not. ;/ I'm certain I've eaten in places that have done this....you can tell....
barrdbarrbarr - 14 May 2004 17:46 GMT Taco Time <shudder>
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> :: A method used in some 3rd world countries is to overseason the meat > :: with hot spices. That way the you can't taste if it is bad meat or > :: not. ;/ > > I'm certain I've eaten in places that have done this....you can tell.... Laureen - 15 May 2004 03:28 GMT > Taco Time <shudder> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > I'm certain I've eaten in places that have done this....you can tell.... Hmm. Well... WHen I was in Alaska I ate a grip of moose and caribou meat. Moose is very mild. I liken it to beef that has been aged a little longer and it is really good. As for the caribou, it was stronger and I did season it with lots of spice. I made burger out of most of it and seasoned it with taco seasoning. We just bought a half beef right before the prices went up and there have been times I thawed a steak out and didnt eat it for a few days. I find it smells strong but if you rinse it, trim the excess fat off of it, and cook it well, you wont tell the diff from a freshly thawed one. Ya cant rinse burger so season it. It wont kill you.............. As for the egg thing with Roger,,,,, when I was in Alaska if you were lucky enough to have a fridge in the remote area I lived in, it was a small one and some still had the funky motor that sat on top of it like from the 50's. Well you didnt waste space. I never refrigerated my eggs. They were fine. But....................DONT EAT ANY CRACKED ONES!!! As long as the shell was intact they were fine. Laureen ( who has eaten some funk in her life and lived to tell about it LOL)
Ignoramus32552 - 15 May 2004 03:41 GMT >> Taco Time <shudder> >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Laureen ( who has eaten some funk in her life and lived to tell about > it LOL) Sounds like you had great experiences.
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Cheri - 14 May 2004 21:37 GMT Hell, they do it right here in the supermarkets of the good old USA sometimes. It's called marinated meat with that red looking rub on it. ;-)
-- Cheri Type 2, no meds for now. Gunnloth wrote in message ...
>A method used in some 3rd world countries is to overseason the meat with hot >spices. That way the you can't taste if it is bad meat or not. ;/ > >Regards, >Gunn janice - 14 May 2004 18:20 GMT >Being a cheap bastard, I hate throwing food away. So, I became aware >of a method of dealing with not so fresh meat, so that it does not [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Here's what one can do: Yikes, ig, you're braver than I am. I wouldn't have anything to do with meat that was past its sell by date. I hope you don't get anything nasty from doing this - and yes, I have noted the bit about heating it to a high temperature.
Each to their own.
janice
Ignoramus32552 - 14 May 2004 18:25 GMT >>Being a cheap bastard, I hate throwing food away. So, I became aware >>of a method of dealing with not so fresh meat, so that it does not [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > anything nasty from doing this - and yes, I have noted the bit about > heating it to a high temperature. I believe that the procedure that I described is very safe -- if your olfactory sense is working.
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Opinicus - 14 May 2004 20:28 GMT > Being a cheap bastard, I hate throwing food away. So, I became aware I'm not cheap and not a bastard either but I have a strong aversion to throwing any food away.
That's one of the reasons I keep cats and dogs.
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Ignoramus32552 - 14 May 2004 20:38 GMT >> Being a cheap bastard, I hate throwing food away. So, I > became aware [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That's one of the reasons I keep cats and dogs. I am curious, are your cats and dogs able to tell spoiled food and refuse it?
I have two chickens for a similar reason.
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Lictor - 15 May 2004 13:55 GMT > I'm not cheap and not a bastard either but I have a strong > aversion to throwing any food away. Cats are usually pretty good at spotting rotten food and avoiding it. On the other hand, dogs will just eat anything you throw at them (red pepper, chewing gum, firecracker...), and then wonder if it's actually edible.
guitarprincess - 14 May 2004 21:49 GMT And you guys wonder why I don't eat meat??? ICK!
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> Being a cheap bastard, I hate throwing food away. So, I became aware > of a method of dealing with not so fresh meat, so that it does not [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- char*p="char*p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}
> "It's never too late to have a happy childhood." Ignoramus32552 - 14 May 2004 23:54 GMT > And you guys wonder why I don't eat meat??? ICK! Princess, similar things can be done with not so fresh vegetables or bread. Meat is not an exception and is not the only thing that can be recooked when it becomes stale.
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SnugBear on the Road - 17 May 2004 12:13 GMT "Ignoramus32552" wrote
> 3. At the same time, cook some buckwheat cereal or some other such hot > cereal, such as whole grain hot cereal made from simply whole [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > frying pan just a bit more time, to get unneeded moisture out and to > ensure that absolutely all bacteria die. Sounds to me like you're reinventing haggis
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Ignoramus4854 - 17 May 2004 14:10 GMT > "Ignoramus32552" wrote >> 3. At the same time, cook some buckwheat cereal or some other such hot [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Sounds to me like you're reinventing haggis Could be, sans sheep stomach and so on.
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Laura B. - 15 May 2004 17:26 GMT > 4. After cooking that hot cereal, mix it with the meat and fry on the > frying pan just a bit more time, to get unneeded moisture out and to > ensure that absolutely all bacteria die. The heat will kill the bacteria but not the toxins the bacteria created. I wouldn't take that chance with my family.
Laura B.
Ignoramus12481 - 16 May 2004 02:29 GMT >> 4. After cooking that hot cereal, mix it with the meat and fry on the >> frying pan just a bit more time, to get unneeded moisture out and to >> ensure that absolutely all bacteria die. > > The heat will kill the bacteria but not the toxins the bacteria created. > I wouldn't take that chance with my family. The meat that you start off with, is not supposed to be spoiled, merely not tasty anymore.
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