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Steve - 16 May 2004 14:17 GMT
The latest issue of Consumer Reports has an interesting article about
low carb comfort foods.

According to Consumer Reports there are many new low carb comfort food
products like ice creams, cookies, cakes, etc.

Consumer Reports claims that these products have the same amount of
calories or even more calories then the regular versions of these treats.

The article warned that people can stay within their daily carb limits
with these low carb junk foods, but still take in a large enough number
of calories to sabatoge their weight loss.

I couldn't find a link for the article on their web site but you should
be able to find the article in their latest issue.

I wouldn't buy the magazine as they don't have much more to say then
what I have just typed.

Steve
Doug Lerner - 16 May 2004 15:56 GMT
On 5/16/04 10:17 PM, in article c87pku01hrk@enews2.newsguy.com, "Steve"
<nospam@please.reply.to.group.thanks.com> wrote:

> Consumer Reports claims that these products have the same amount of
> calories or even more calories then the regular versions of these treats.
>
> The article warned that people can stay within their daily carb limits
> with these low carb junk foods, but still take in a large enough number
> of calories to sabatoge their weight loss.

That is indisputably true.

The low-carb-at-any-calorie-price fad is going to prove as big a bust as the
low-fat fad was.

doug
Crafting Mom - 16 May 2004 16:47 GMT
> On 5/16/04 10:17 PM, in article c87pku01hrk@enews2.newsguy.com, "Steve"
> <nospam@please.reply.to.group.thanks.com> wrote:
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>
> doug

And it's too bad, too.  Because it diverts attention from the real foods
that can be enjoyed on a low-carb way of life.  By and large, the media has
painted a highly erroneous picture of low-carb.  Most everything, from news
reports to satires, paint it as a diet in which you ignore all other food
groups and concentrate on cream, butter, bacon, eggs, and steak.
Based on this assumption, those low carb substitute foods would most
certainly seem to be a necessity.

That's entirely a different thing from the low-carb way of life I am
enjoying, centered around a wide variety of real foods.  There are a few
people out there who "get it", so there is hope.

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Ignoramus29075 - 16 May 2004 17:37 GMT
> On 5/16/04 10:17 PM, in article c87pku01hrk@enews2.newsguy.com, "Steve"
><nospam@please.reply.to.group.thanks.com> wrote:
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>
> doug

Doug, while I agree with you, let's not forget, these low carb labeled
junk foods are not even low carb, in reality.

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Doug Lerner - 17 May 2004 00:10 GMT
On 5/17/04 1:37 AM, in article c885bo$hh$2@pita.alt.net, "Ignoramus29075"
<ignoramus29075@NOSPAM.29075.invalid> wrote:

>> On 5/16/04 10:17 PM, in article c87pku01hrk@enews2.newsguy.com, "Steve"
>> <nospam@please.reply.to.group.thanks.com> wrote:
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> Doug, while I agree with you, let's not forget, these low carb labeled
> junk foods are not even low carb, in reality.

That is true of a lot of junk foods. But I wasn't even thinking of sugar
alcohols and whatnot. Even true low-carb snacks can be high enough in
calories to wreck a weight loss diet. Think of cheese and nuts.

doug
Ignoramus29075 - 17 May 2004 03:18 GMT
> On 5/17/04 1:37 AM, in article c885bo$hh$2@pita.alt.net, "Ignoramus29075"
><ignoramus29075@NOSPAM.29075.invalid> wrote:
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> alcohols and whatnot. Even true low-carb snacks can be high enough in
> calories to wreck a weight loss diet. Think of cheese and nuts.

True. I am giving up nuts for this reason, they are healthy and all,
but they make it difficult for me to control how much I eat. I will
finish off the ones we have at home, and won't buy more for a while,
maybe a few months.

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linda-renee - 18 May 2004 00:40 GMT
"Ignoramus29075" <ignoramus29075@NOSPAM.29075.invalid> wrote in message

> True. I am giving up nuts for this reason, they are healthy and all,
> but they make it difficult for me to control how much I eat.

Different strokes for different folks.  I just read an article in Prevention
magazine that said eating nuts is actually very good in helping to control
food intake.
JMA - 18 May 2004 00:58 GMT
> "Ignoramus29075" <ignoramus29075@NOSPAM.29075.invalid> wrote in message
>
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> magazine that said eating nuts is actually very good in helping to control
> food intake.

Maybe so, but if eating a few nuts makes a person really want to eat more
food (nuts or anything else), then there are better ways to control food
intake.  I can only eat nuts in the context of some sliced almonds in a
salad or in my green beans.  If I actually ate the almonds alone (or other
nuts), I'd want to keep eating them in spite of hunger or lack thereof.

OTOH, I can eat chocolate 20 days out of the month and limit myself to one
piece and not even think about it. Like you said, different strokes.
Heywood Mogroot - 18 May 2004 07:23 GMT
> > "Ignoramus29075" <ignoramus29075@NOSPAM.29075.invalid> wrote in message
> >
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> OTOH, I can eat chocolate 20 days out of the month and limit myself to one
> piece and not even think about it. Like you said, different strokes.

I pour out the 1oz serving of smoked-flavored almonds into a separate
container to avoid over-snacking for lunch. 28 pieces are pretty easy
to eye-ball...

Nice little 200 kcal snack, and it goes GREAT! with my afternoon water
(~20oz). I also chase them with an A,C,E vitamin. Not sure 1oz is
enough to get the vitamins into my system...
Steve - 18 May 2004 01:29 GMT
> Different strokes for different folks.  I just read an article in Prevention
> magazine that said eating nuts is actually very good in helping to control
> food intake.

I think I read that article too, and IMHO the message was that eating
nuts ( and the article mentioned measured amounts ) could help one get
thin by filling people up so they would eat less.

This is along the same line as the Consumer Reports warning to stay away
from the idea of feeling fine with "taking the food and shoving it",
regardless of calories, as long as you obey some fad diet rule.

Steve
Crafting Mom - 18 May 2004 02:40 GMT
>> Different strokes for different folks.  I just read an article in
>> Prevention magazine that said eating nuts is actually very good in
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> nuts ( and the article mentioned measured amounts ) could help one get
> thin by filling people up so they would eat less.

I've not read the article, but I've found that nuts, due to their high fat
content (and low starch content) tend to fill me up (my favored nut is raw
almonds).  Alternately, a tablespoon (120 calories per) of pure extra
virgin olive oil, on a salad adds enough density to it to make it feel like
a meal, and stick with me longer.  It's practically my self-contained
appetite suppressant.
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Renegade5 - 18 May 2004 23:46 GMT
You might want to double-check the value of nuts before giving them
up.  They really are 'chock' full of nutrition and more and more they
are appearing as 'superfoods' that are very effective in cutting the
risk of numerous diseases.

They come highly recommended by both Dr. Andrew Weil (the leading
natural food doctor in the world) and Dr. Walter Willett (head of
Nutrition at Harvard Med).

I think the key is to eat no more than a small handfull per day.

>"Ignoramus29075" <ignoramus29075@NOSPAM.29075.invalid> wrote in message
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>magazine that said eating nuts is actually very good in helping to control
>food intake.
Ignoramus13397 - 19 May 2004 00:10 GMT
> You might want to double-check the value of nuts before giving them
> up.  They really are 'chock' full of nutrition and more and more they
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> natural food doctor in the world) and Dr. Walter Willett (head of
> Nutrition at Harvard Med).

I completely agree that nuts are very healthy foods.

> I think the key is to eat no more than a small handfull per day.

That's what is a little difficult. I _can_ limit myself as to how much
nuts I eat, but with too much difficulty. I will finish off the nuts
that I have and avoid buying them for a while. Will see how it goes.

i

>>"Ignoramus29075" <ignoramus29075@NOSPAM.29075.invalid> wrote in message
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>>magazine that said eating nuts is actually very good in helping to control
>>food intake.

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Heywood Mogroot - 19 May 2004 23:06 GMT
> You might want to double-check the value of nuts before giving them
> up.  They really are 'chock' full of nutrition and more and more they
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>
> I think the key is to eat no more than a small handfull per day.

IOW one serving as it says on the container.

good advice in general, of course.
Doug Freyburger - 19 May 2004 19:42 GMT
> Ignoramus29075 wrote in message
>
> > True. I am giving up nuts for this reason, they are healthy and all,
> > but they make it difficult for me to control how much I eat.
>
> Different strokes for different folks.

Yes, and that also applies to the *type* of nut.  If you have a problem
with one type, try some others.  I tend to empty a bowl of either
peanuts (really beans not nuts) or cashews.  But I don't do that with
most other types.  Now I keep walnuts, pecans, filberts or whatever in
stock.  Those I *can* have a handfull and put the rest back.
Ignoramus22432 - 19 May 2004 19:47 GMT
>> Ignoramus29075 wrote in message
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> most other types.  Now I keep walnuts, pecans, filberts or whatever in
> stock.  Those I *can* have a handfull and put the rest back.

I can stop with any nuts, but, I soon come back for "a few more". That
happens on weekends only, as I do not keep nuts at work. Knowing this,
I eat less other food on weekends, but I always gain a pound or so on
weekends, at least until quite recently. too much struggle for me, so
I will trying living without nuts for a while. A point that nuts could
be actually _helping_ me to not overeat other foods is noted, and if
it turns out to be true, that would be another reason to return to
nuts. Since I already have plenty of nuts in the pantry, I will finish
those first, but won't buy new nuts.

i
Jane Lumley - 17 May 2004 20:13 GMT
>That is true of a lot of junk foods. But I wasn't even thinking of sugar
>alcohols and whatnot. Even true low-carb snacks can be high enough in
>calories to wreck a weight loss diet. Think of cheese and nuts.

I try not to!  They certainly made things tough for me until I
eliminated them.  
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Ignoramus29075 - 16 May 2004 17:36 GMT
> The latest issue of Consumer Reports has an interesting article about
> low carb comfort foods.
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> with these low carb junk foods, but still take in a large enough number
> of calories to sabatoge their weight loss.

This issue has been debated to death in alt.support.diet.low-carb,
with your humble servant, amongst some others, pointing out many times
that those "low carb" junk foods are not even low carb, in reality.

They are fraudulent foods.

Thank you for mentioning an article that brings much needed light on
this subject.

i
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susanjoneslewis - 16 May 2004 22:27 GMT
Maybe I'm strange.. But in almost a year of losing and living what I
feel is a pretty low carb WOL/E(-30 carbs a day) I've yet to purchase
any product that is labeled "low carb" or friendly or whatever the
current catch phrase is. I am one of those people who can't see the
sense in substituting foods. If I want a tortilla with my meal for
example. I eat one, I simply compensate for that amt of carbs somewhere
else in my daily intake. Those in particular are tasteless to me, like
eating cardboard. I also don't do the substitute the sugar thing either.
To me there is no such thing as a "safe" candy, cookie or sweet. And
I've found that if even if I do eat a sugar free but "sweet" item, I
just want more. I know me too well. I know that the next time it might
be a small handful of m&m's or something. Then the next time the bag..
etc. That's not a risk I am prepared to take yet in my WOE. Maybe
someday I will.  For that matter I don't substitute protein either,
bar's, shakes etc. I try to make sure that my intake is not from
processed or packaged food.
Sounds boring I know, but it works for me. I don't reward myself with
food any longer sweet or otherwise. Food is fuel. I no longer eat
recreationally or because its polite to do so.

Susan
260/193/140

> The latest issue of Consumer Reports has an interesting article about
> low carb comfort foods.
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>
> Steve
Ignoramus29075 - 16 May 2004 22:43 GMT
> Maybe I'm strange.. But in almost a year of losing and living what I

> Sounds boring I know, but it works for me. I don't reward myself with
> food any longer sweet or otherwise. Food is fuel. I no longer eat
> recreationally or because its polite to do so.

You are not strange, you simply found what works, and as a result, you
lose weight steadily, instead of whining and complaining.
Congratulations.

I have yet to see someone in these newsgroups, who gave up junk for
good, and does not consider it "treats", who would regain weight as
long as he or she stuck to their  choices. Maybe such people exist, but
I have not yet seen anyone.

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janice - 17 May 2004 07:03 GMT
>Maybe I'm strange.. But in almost a year of losing and living what I
>feel is a pretty low carb WOL/E(-30 carbs a day) I've yet to purchase
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>bar's, shakes etc. I try to make sure that my intake is not from
>processed or packaged food.

I don't follow a low carb WOE, but what you say makes sense to me
Susan.  I don't like substitute foods if I can avoid them, and above
all I don't eat things I don't like just because they are so-called
"diet"  or "healthy" foods.  I like to eat real food and if I don't
like the taste of one food I'll find something else equivalent that I
do enjoy.

janice
 
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