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Taking a long trip - the will-power challenge
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Doug Lerner - 18 May 2004 06:34 GMT Usually I cook at home. And I tend to not use processed foods and just make simple things I can throw together myself. That is part of what is helping me stick with low-calorie (1500/day), lower-carb (currently averaging about 60 gm/day) eating. And I am doing well and losing weight.
But it turns out that next week I need to go on a one month trip to the U.S., including Boston, Columbia (MO) and New Orleans.
I really, really want to stay on my diet during the entire trip, but am already feeling pangs of worry.
My current plan is to stay on low-calorie as much as possible and as a fall-back stick to Atkins.
If I think of low-carb as my "going wild" at least I should be able to prevent excessive weight gain during my trip.
I am, I'm glad to say, fully confident of being able to resist foods that are both high calorie *and* high carb.
doug
Chris Braun - 18 May 2004 13:48 GMT You'll find that lots of restaurants here, particularly the chains, now have designated low-carb dishes on their menus. Assuming you believe calories count -- and I know you do -- you'll have to check these out a bit before you order, but you can find some good choices there. Sometimes the dishes are high in fat, though. Recently I ordered a grilled shrimp dinner from the low-carb menu, but I susbstituted green beans in place of the cauliflower whipped with cream cheese and butter :-).
Chris 262/152/ (145-150)
Doug Lerner - 18 May 2004 15:48 GMT On 5/18/04 9:48 PM, in article pb1ka09tthsdj5a1sfv5lsiov40dejj93t@4ax.com,
> but I > susbstituted green beans in place of the cauliflower whipped with > cream cheese and butter :-). Now you are just teasing me! :)
doug
Ignoramus13397 - 18 May 2004 14:02 GMT > Usually I cook at home. And I tend to not use processed foods and just make > simple things I can throw together myself. That is part of what is helping [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I really, really want to stay on my diet during the entire trip, but am > already feeling pangs of worry. Doug, there are so many food options in the US these days, you should have no reason to worry. You could stick to strictly low carb eating very very easily, if you want to. Counting calories or portion control is much trickier on the road than counting carbs, imho. That's because many foods contain no carbs at all. So you can eat all meat and fish you want, but eat only a little bit of carby stuff like mashd potatoes or whatever.
Also, they sell prepared food ssuch as rotisserie chicken, meats or salads ate delis in most supermarkets, you would go a long way if you make that a staple of your diet. A caveat, many of those salads contain added sugar.
You can also request to stay in hotels with little kitchens, maybe your employer will grant this request.
Maybe take a scale with you to detect if you are going way off track. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- char*p="char*p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} "It's never too late to have a happy childhood."
Doug Lerner - 18 May 2004 15:46 GMT On 5/18/04 10:02 PM, in article c8d1he$jbj$4@pita.alt.net, "Ignoramus13397" <ignoramus13397@NOSPAM.13397.invalid> wrote:
> Doug, there are so many food options in the US these days, you should > have no reason to worry. You could stick to strictly low carb eating [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Maybe take a scale with you to detect if you are going way off track. Thanks for the note!
I do think that staying low-carb for a trip is probably easier than low-calorie, for the reasons you mentioned.
I'm thinking of either:
(1) low-carbing during the trip, without consideration of calories...
(I've done that before and managed to maintain weight during the trip.)
or
(2) allotting, say, 2500 calories per day instead of my current 1500 calories per day and staying on my current diet - also with the goal of maintaining weight...
On the road, low-carbing may just be easier. I'm very used to doing that from a year of Atkins already. At least I'm pretty sure I won't come back a month later having gained a lot of weight...
doug
Ignoramus13397 - 18 May 2004 15:52 GMT > On 5/18/04 10:02 PM, in article c8d1he$jbj$4@pita.alt.net, "Ignoramus13397" ><ignoramus13397@NOSPAM.13397.invalid> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > calories per day and staying on my current diet - also with the goal of > maintaining weight... Obviously, either would work. Method 2 will work only if you count calories accurately and also if you do not succumb to cravings and overeat.
Method 1 has less chances to fail.
> On the road, low-carbing may just be easier. I'm very used to doing that > from a year of Atkins already. At least I'm pretty sure I won't come back a > month later having gained a lot of weight... Exactly.
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Roger Zoul - 18 May 2004 17:08 GMT :: On 5/18/04 10:02 PM, in article c8d1he$jbj$4@pita.alt.net, :: "Ignoramus13397" <ignoramus13397@NOSPAM.13397.invalid> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] :: calories per day and staying on my current diet - also with the goal :: of maintaining weight... (3) low-carb without too much consideration of calories (try to limit yourself some) for a few days. Then fast a day. Repeat.
Remember, you don't have to count calories. You can just decide not to eat unless you're hungry, and when you do it don't eat much. It's hard, but it can be done.
Doug Lerner - 19 May 2004 00:36 GMT On 5/19/04 1:08 AM, in article 10akd80kvru181d@corp.supernews.com, "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> (3) low-carb without too much consideration of calories (try to limit > yourself some) for a few days. Then fast a day. Repeat. > > Remember, you don't have to count calories. You can just decide not to eat > unless you're hungry, and when you do it don't eat much. It's hard, but it > can be done. While that is true, I don't think fasting a day is a good idea. That doesn't sounds workable for me, anyway...
doug
Heywood Mogroot - 18 May 2004 20:13 GMT > On 5/18/04 10:02 PM, in article c8d1he$jbj$4@pita.alt.net, "Ignoramus13397" > <ignoramus13397@NOSPAM.13397.invalid> wrote: > > (2) allotting, say, 2500 calories per day instead of my current 1500 > calories per day and staying on my current diet - also with the goal of > maintaining weight... Depending on how much you have left to lose, just going on maintenance for a month ~might~ be a good strategy. Giving the body a break or what have you..
Steve - 18 May 2004 14:18 GMT > But it turns out that next week I need to go on a one month trip to the > U.S., including Boston, Columbia (MO) and New Orleans. Welcome to Fat Land :).
Traveling does make dieting hard, you never know what you are getting in restaurant food.
However there are "nutrition" sites for various chain restaurants on the web that might help.
When I am on the road I also try to wait until I can feel physical hunger before I eat. It may not be precise, but I use that as a rough sign that I have used up what I last took in.
Steve
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Doug Lerner - 18 May 2004 15:49 GMT On 5/18/04 10:18 PM, in article c8d2eh028ik@enews1.newsguy.com, "Steve" <nospam@please.reply.to.group.thanks.com> wrote:
> Welcome to Fat Land :). Thanks. I always feel "lost in the crowd" when I visit the U.S. :)
doug
TavliGal - 19 May 2004 07:46 GMT >> On 5/18/04 10:18 PM, in article c8d2eh028ik@enews1.newsguy.com, >> "Steve" <nospam@please.reply.to.group.thanks.com> wrote: >> >>> Welcome to Fat Land :). >> >> Thanks. I always feel "lost in the crowd" when I visit the U.S. :) Really? You mean you've never felt like that in Japan?! Monica :)
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Doug Lerner - 19 May 2004 09:18 GMT On 5/19/04 3:46 PM, in article ApDqc.532907$Ig.277152@pd7tw2no, "TavliGal"
>>> On 5/18/04 10:18 PM, in article c8d2eh028ik@enews1.newsguy.com, >>> "Steve" <nospam@please.reply.to.group.thanks.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Really? You mean you've never felt like that in Japan?! > Monica :)
:) Well, even in a crowd here I stand out more.
doug
Merryl - 19 May 2004 18:54 GMT > But it turns out that next week I need to go on a one month trip to the > U.S., including Boston, Columbia (MO) and New Orleans. Speaking only for Boston, you'll find that a lot of restaurants in the area, as well as a LOT of chain restaurants throughout the U.S., offer low-carb selections. I've had very good luck by telling the waitstaff "I'm doing the low-carb thing", and they're pretty good about offering substitutions for the pasta and bread.
If you're in downtown Boston, the Shaw's Supermarket next to Prudential Center is very good with all kinds of low-carb foods. Okay, some of them are frankenfoods and real cr*p, but they have a salad bar and lots of good selections, and they might be only a block or two from your hotel!
It's common, especially in the south, to find "breakfast all day" restaurants where you can order omelets and egg dishes at any time.
I travel quite a lot, and I find that it's important to carry some "safe" foods with me. I pack nuts and cheese, and some meal replacement bars for when I'm stuck on a plane with no food, or only bad food choices. I've had good luck finding "proper" food in most airports these days, when there's time to stop and buy something. Usually it's a chef's salad or ceasar salad, but in St. Louis last week I got bunless burgers from Burger King, served in a dish and without any sauces. Like a little meat patty salad.
I hope this helps you!
Doug Lerner - 20 May 2004 03:02 GMT Thanks, Merryl. Good pointers, all around.
doug
On 5/20/04 2:54 AM, in article 9ffd3648.0405190954.204f81d1@posting.google.com, "Merryl" <lyrrem@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> But it turns out that next week I need to go on a one month trip to the >> U.S., including Boston, Columbia (MO) and New Orleans. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > I hope this helps you! Serenity - 07 Jun 2004 17:35 GMT [snip]
> I travel quite a lot, and I find that it's important to carry some > "safe" foods with me. I pack nuts and cheese, and some meal > replacement bars for when I'm stuck on a plane with no food, or only > bad food choices. [snip]
http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/48/39278.htm?pagenumber=4
Serenity - 08 Jun 2004 11:33 GMT > [snip] > > I travel quite a lot, and I find that it's important to carry some [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/48/39278.htm?pagenumber=4 Should quote the article:
"To complicate matters, you may not be able to judge every bar by its wrapper. In October 2001, when ConsumerLab.com announced the findings of its independent laboratory tests of 30 nutrition bars, 18 did not meet the claims of ingredient levels on the label. More than any other misrepresentation, about one-half of the nutrition bars exceeded the carbohydrate levels stated on the wrapper (one bar promoted as a low-carbohydrate diet product claimed it had just 2 grams of carbohydrates, but testing showed it actually contained 22 grams)."
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