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Alex - 21 May 2004 16:20 GMT
I Have *never* been a breakfast person. As a child I remember battling
with my mother over eating breakfast. She was lucky to get a packet of
instant oatmeal in me about half the time. I just was not hungry. I
was not an overweight child, but not skinny either. Over the years, I
have not changed in that respect. I typically would not eat all day
and then eat a large dinner, if available. If it was not available, I
just wouldn't eat.

My mom always said that when you are truly hungry, everything tastes
good. I never forgot this and when I did a living foods retreat for 2
weeks, after about a week I couldn't eat anymore. Everything tasted
horrible and even the smell nauseated me. I did wheatgrass shots and
fasted the rest of the time. I wasn't even hungry with a week of
fasting.

Here's the thing, I am now getting hungry in the mornings, so I eat a
little something, like a quarter serving of almonds, or some string
cheese or a small cup of yogurt. I am going to start back to oatmeal
this weekend. This is truly a new experience for me! Also, last night,
I was so hungry for dinner, that my mouth was watering while I looked
at the food waiting on the table.

I feel like I am finally getting in touch with my body in a way I have
never experienced before, and I am enjoying every second of it!

Ally
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SnugBear - 22 May 2004 02:54 GMT
Ally  wrote:

> Here's the thing, I am now getting hungry in the mornings, so I eat a
> little something, like a quarter serving of almonds, or some string
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> I feel like I am finally getting in touch with my body in a way I have
> never experienced before, and I am enjoying every second of it!

This is great, Ally!  

I still don't believe my mom let us eat coffee & donuts for breakfast
:-/.  And as an adult, until I decided to lose weight, I never ate
breakfast.  Now I would perish without my oatmeal! Be sure to try the
steel cut oats - very yummy.

Enjoy all your discoveries and new healthy WOL.

(Btw, did any of us think to buy stock in oatmeal?  I'm wondering if it
grows in Maine <g>)

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Herman Munster - 24 May 2004 17:03 GMT
Where can you get the steel cut oats?  I have looked in all of my local
supermarkets with no luck.

> Ally  wrote:
>
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> (Btw, did any of us think to buy stock in oatmeal?  I'm wondering if it
> grows in Maine <g>)
Herman Munster - 24 May 2004 17:03 GMT
Where can you find the steel cut oats?  I have looked at all the local
supermarkets an all they seem to carry is the instant stuff.

> Ally  wrote:
>
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> (Btw, did any of us think to buy stock in oatmeal?  I'm wondering if it
> grows in Maine <g>)
Doug Freyburger - 25 May 2004 19:42 GMT
> Where can you find the steel cut oats?  I have looked at all the local
> supermarkets an all they seem to carry is the instant stuff.

Most well-stocked groceries have them, but you must look closely.
They are at the top or bottom because they aren't popular items.
They usually come in cans rather than boxes so they don't stand
out.  They have fairly plain labels.

Most steel cut oats are Irish or Scottish products.  Plain white
label with green or yellow trim in the areas without writing.

Steel cut oats take a *lot* longer to cook than rolled oats.  If
you have a slow cooker, start it the night before.  Or have them
on a weekend the first try.  The first time I cooked them years
ago I tried to make them fast and ended up with a mess in the
kitchen and I stopped at a franchize place's drive-thru on the
way to work.  ;^)
SnugBear - 26 May 2004 02:22 GMT
> Steel cut oats take a *lot* longer to cook than rolled oats.  If
> you have a slow cooker, start it the night before.  Or have them
> on a weekend the first try.

I do mine like this!  

Soak overnight - Before going to bed, boil one cup of water in a pot,
turn off the heat and add 1/4 cup of oatmeal. Cover the pot and leave
overnight. In the morning cook over a low flame for 9-12 mins. Makes one
serving.

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Beverly - 26 May 2004 17:40 GMT
> > Steel cut oats take a *lot* longer to cook than rolled oats.  If
> > you have a slow cooker, start it the night before.  Or have them
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Have you fixed them in a microwave?  I have oatmeal each morning at work
and need to fix it in a microwave.  I currently use a 5 grain oatmeal from
a local health food store.  I nuke it for 3 minutes then let it set for 3-5
minutes.  I'm wondering how long I would have to cook the steel cut.

Beverly
Doug Freyburger - 26 May 2004 23:00 GMT
> > > Steel cut oats take a *lot* longer to cook than rolled oats.  If
> > > you have a slow cooker, start it the night before.  Or have them
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Have you fixed them in a microwave?

When I tried steel cut oats in the nuke it was an unmitigated disaster.
I went to work and when I got home it took an hour to clean the mess.
Starchy foam stuff all over the inside of the nuke, and a mound or hard
goop in the bottom of the bowl.  The stuff doesn't take well to being
rushed, and anything under an hour appears to count as a rush.
SnugBear - 27 May 2004 03:19 GMT
> When I tried steel cut oats in the nuke it was an unmitigated disaster.
> I went to work and when I got home it took an hour to clean the mess.
> Starchy foam stuff all over the inside of the nuke, and a mound or hard
> goop in the bottom of the bowl.  The stuff doesn't take well to being
> rushed, and anything under an hour appears to count as a rush.

Try my overnight method Doug - you'll love it.  Even when I don't soak
them, I've never cooked them an hour - I'd die of hunger!  They're
supposed to be chewy anyway.

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Beverly - 27 May 2004 13:36 GMT
> > > > Steel cut oats take a *lot* longer to cook than rolled oats.  If
> > > > you have a slow cooker, start it the night before.  Or have them
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> goop in the bottom of the bowl.  The stuff doesn't take well to being
> rushed, and anything under an hour appears to count as a rush.

Thanks.  Guess I'll stick to the Red Mill 5 grain oats from the health food
store.  I don't think my co-workers would appreciate this type mess in our
microwave.

Beverly
SnugBear - 27 May 2004 03:12 GMT
"Beverly"  wrote:

> Have you fixed them in a microwave?  I have oatmeal each morning at
> work and need to fix it in a microwave.  I currently use a 5 grain
> oatmeal from a local health food store.  I nuke it for 3 minutes then
> let it set for 3-5 minutes.  I'm wondering how long I would have to
> cook the steel cut.

I haven't Beverly.  But I suspect if you did the heat and overnight soak
and then take it to work, it might be similar to what you do now. I'd
keep an eye on it.

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Beverly - 27 May 2004 13:37 GMT
> > Have you fixed them in a microwave?  I have oatmeal each morning at
> > work and need to fix it in a microwave.  I currently use a 5 grain
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> --

I'll have to experiment with them.  It wouldn't be the first time I made a
mess in the microwave<g>

Beverly

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Herman Munster - 24 May 2004 17:03 GMT
Where can you find the steel cut oats?  I have looked at all of the local
supermarkets with no luck.
HM

> Ally  wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> (Btw, did any of us think to buy stock in oatmeal?  I'm wondering if it
> grows in Maine <g>)
Herman Munster - 24 May 2004 17:15 GMT
Sorry about the repeat, repeat, repeat don't you just love computers?

> Where can you find the steel cut oats?  I have looked at all of the local
> supermarkets with no luck.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> > (Btw, did any of us think to buy stock in oatmeal?  I'm wondering if it
> > grows in Maine <g>)
Beverly - 24 May 2004 17:50 GMT
> Sorry about the repeat, repeat, repeat don't you just love computers?

You might look in a local health food store.  I've always been able to find
them there.

What would we do without the computers - even those that hiccup
occasionally<g>

Beverly

> > Where can you find the steel cut oats?  I have looked at all of the local
> > supermarkets with no luck.
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SnugBear - 24 May 2004 20:19 GMT
> Where can you find the steel cut oats?  I have looked at all of the local
> supermarkets with no luck.

It is sold in bulk at the health food stores here in Maine.  I understand
it is also available at Wegman's if you have those stores.  Maybe Whole
Foods?

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jmk - 25 May 2004 12:31 GMT
>>Where can you find the steel cut oats?  I have looked at all of the local
>>supermarkets with no luck.
>
> It is sold in bulk at the health food stores here in Maine.  I understand
> it is also available at Wegman's if you have those stores.  Maybe Whole
> Foods?

I can get it at Whole Foods (bulk and packaged) and Lowe's Foods
(packaged only) for sure.  Any store that carries Bob's Red Mill
products should probably have it as well.

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Chris Braun - 22 May 2004 04:32 GMT
>Here's the thing, I am now getting hungry in the mornings, so I eat a
>little something, like a quarter serving of almonds, or some string
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>I feel like I am finally getting in touch with my body in a way I have
>never experienced before, and I am enjoying every second of it!

I had a similar epiphany after I'd been dieting a while.  I think it
not only means that you're learning to listen to your body, but that
you've got your metabolism on a more even keel.

Chris
determined - 22 May 2004 19:58 GMT
One thing that I live by these days is listening to my body.  If I don't
feel hungry in the morning, I don't eat.  But if I feel hungry at 10am, then
I'll have something to eat, even if it's something like leftover chicken
breast for dinner - it doesn't have to be appropriate for the time of day.
Sometimes I eat a bowl of cereal for dinner, or a piece of toast with pb for
an evening snack.  And I usually don't let myself go hungry even if dinner
is "only an hour and a half away".  Because if I wait that long, I'll eat
like it's the last supper.  Listening to your body is a good thing!

det

> I Have *never* been a breakfast person. As a child I remember battling
> with my mother over eating breakfast. She was lucky to get a packet of
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Ally
> 212/188/160
Chris Braun - 22 May 2004 22:28 GMT
>One thing that I live by these days is listening to my body.  If I don't
>feel hungry in the morning, I don't eat.  But if I feel hungry at 10am, then
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>is "only an hour and a half away".  Because if I wait that long, I'll eat
>like it's the last supper.  Listening to your body is a good thing!

I was thinking about this "listening to the body" idea this afternoon.
I had lunch at my friend's winery with a couple of other friends.
They were barbecuing ribs and we had -- for me -- quite a large lunch.
I ate 2 (large) brabecued ribs, 1/2 cup of baked beans, 1/2 piece of
corn bread, and a glass of wine, and was stuffed.  My friend Mary
Anne, who is quite overweight, ate what I did plus more beans and corn
bread, a serving of cole slaw, and an ear of corn.  Then we went
clothes shopping.  After that, she suggested we go get ice cream at
the Dairy Queen stand.  I said I didn't want any but would go along.
She had a double cone with peanut topping and I had a diet coke.  

Once I'd have eaten as Mary Anne did and not thought twice about it.
Today, I was thirsty when we went to the drive in -- due to the ribs,
I expect -- but wasn't the least bit hungry.  As we sat at the table
watching people and eating/drinking, I sort of idly eyed the menu
thinking, "What would I have if I were hungry now?" but I wasn't even
tempted to eat any ice cream.  It didn't bother me a bit that I wasn't
having any.  

Any Mary Anne will probably have a restaurant dinner tonight, and I'm
thinking in terms of cereal or tuna salad or some such :-).

Chris
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