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VirtualGuy - 23 May 2004 17:12 GMT
Folks:

In preparation of my new resolve to get back on my old WOL, I need to
purchase a scale to weight myself.  I'm not interested in visting the Dr.
office every week to do so anymore.

Now, I'm sure that most people in this group have not had the misfortune of
needing a high capacity scale.  However, any information on manufacturers
would be much appreciated.

I'm looking at some models from Siltec and Tanita.

From what I have heard in this group, the Tanita is a very good product,
but expensive.  Siltec is offering high capacity scales at reasonable
prices.  About $270US for a their WS1000L scale.

For those of you who are going through sticker shock, when it comes to
scales of this nature, larger people have to resort to going to the doctor
as they cannot afford the $800 plus scales.  So, $270 is quite reasonable
and popular, from what I have been reading.

So, if you have any information or opinions, I would be interested in
hearing from you.

Cheers!

       Alex

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Steve Knight - 23 May 2004 18:29 GMT
>Folks:
>
>In preparation of my new resolve to get back on my old WOL, I need to
>purchase a scale to weight myself.  I'm not interested in visting the Dr.
>office every week to do so anymore.

http://www.mscdirect.com/MSCCatLookup2.process?MSCProdID=65361057 here is what I
use. for product and myself. it work on a 9v battery or plug in.

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Dewolla Stepon - 23 May 2004 18:32 GMT
Alex, you didn't say what capacity scale you need, but I found this website
http://www.americanweigh.com which has a talking bathroom scale which
measures up to 440 pounds in 1/10 pound increments.  Its a decent price,
too, at $59.95.  Their product code is AMW440T.

Hope this helps!

- Dewolla

> Folks:
>
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>
>     Alex
Ignoramus2507 - 23 May 2004 19:52 GMT
> Folks:
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> So, if you have any information or opinions, I would be interested in
> hearing from you.

What about buying two cheap 330 lbs scales, putting a board between
them, and stepping on the board? (feet close to one another) Add up
the readings, subtract the weight of the board, and you now have your
weight?

That's going to set you back about $20, instead of (horror!) 270!

i
Chris Braun - 23 May 2004 20:02 GMT
>What about buying two cheap 330 lbs scales, putting a board between
>them, and stepping on the board? (feet close to one another) Add up
>the readings, subtract the weight of the board, and you now have your
>weight?
>
>That's going to set you back about $20, instead of (horror!) 270!

My DH used to do this when he was heavier, and it works very well --
somewhat to my surprise.  It actually works fine to just stand with
one foot on each scale; you don't need the board.  I was dubious about
this but tried it myself and I got readings within a pound or two of
what I got standing on a single scale.

Chris
262/150/ (145-150)
Ignoramus2507 - 24 May 2004 03:39 GMT
>>What about buying two cheap 330 lbs scales, putting a board between
>>them, and stepping on the board? (feet close to one another) Add up
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> this but tried it myself and I got readings within a pound or two of
> what I got standing on a single scale.

Interesting. The reason why I suggested a board is that without one,
when you turn your head to look at one scale, it would change the
weight balance towards it. Same when you look at another. That would
create a bias. Whereas, standing on a board with feet close, would not
have such dramatic effects. Maybe it is not as big deal as I think. In
any case, spending $18 with, say, 2 lbs accuracy is better then
spending $270 with 1 lbs accuracy!

i
Carol Frilegh - 24 May 2004 15:00 GMT
> >>What about buying two cheap 330 lbs scales, putting a board between
> >>them, and stepping on the board? (feet close to one another) Add up
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> any case, spending $18 with, say, 2 lbs accuracy is better then
> spending $270 with 1 lbs accuracy!

If this person is determined he will follow a diet and exercise for
three months without even worrying about what a scale says and will
most likely be able to weigh on a conventional scale. The important
thing is what to eat and how much is burned

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Ignoramus10502 - 24 May 2004 15:22 GMT
>> >>What about buying two cheap 330 lbs scales, putting a board between
>> >>them, and stepping on the board? (feet close to one another) Add up
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> most likely be able to weigh on a conventional scale. The important
> thing is what to eat and how much is burned

My reading of the original post or some other recent post by the OP is
that he is about 450 lbs.

If so, he not likely to get to 330 lbs (limit of many regular scales)
in 3 months. That would be a loss of 40 lbs per month!

i
Carol Frilegh - 24 May 2004 18:40 GMT
> >> >>What about buying two cheap 330 lbs scales, putting a board between
> >> >>them, and stepping on the board? (feet close to one another) Add up
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> If so, he not likely to get to 330 lbs (limit of many regular scales)
> in 3 months. That would be a loss of 40 lbs per month!

Then he can use a baggage scale. Why spend all the money for that
specialty scale when staying on the diet and exercising is what counts.

Carol
Ignoramus10502 - 24 May 2004 18:59 GMT
>> >> >>What about buying two cheap 330 lbs scales, putting a board between
>> >> >>them, and stepping on the board? (feet close to one another) Add up
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Then he can use a baggage scale. Why spend all the money for that
> specialty scale when staying on the diet and exercising is what counts.

My suggestion was to buy two cheap $9.99 analog scales.

It is so far the best suggestion, and your baggage scale suggestion is
likely to be more expensive than my suggestion.

i
Carol Frilegh - 24 May 2004 20:18 GMT
> >> >> >>What about buying two cheap 330 lbs scales, putting a board between
> >> >> >>them, and stepping on the board? (feet close to one another) Add up
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> It is so far the best suggestion, and your baggage scale suggestion is
> likely to be more expensive than my suggestion.

You don't buy a baggage scale. You go to where there is one and just
weigh in monthly. Someone who has a lot to lose will see a big loss and
be encouraged that way.
Ignoramus10502 - 24 May 2004 21:11 GMT
>> >> >> >>What about buying two cheap 330 lbs scales, putting a board between
>> >> >> >>them, and stepping on the board? (feet close to one another) Add up
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> weigh in monthly. Someone who has a lot to lose will see a big loss and
> be encouraged that way.

Oh, I see, I misunderstood you. I wonder where may one find a baggage
scale easily. Would think that a $19.98 solution is still easier than
finding a baggage scale periodically.

i
SnugBear - 25 May 2004 01:44 GMT
Ignoramus10502 <ignoramus10502@NOSPAM.10502.invalid> wrote in news:c8tku2
$qti$0@pita.alt.net:

> Oh, I see, I misunderstood you. I wonder where may one find a baggage
> scale easily.

Any airport?

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Ignoramus10502 - 25 May 2004 03:22 GMT
> Ignoramus10502 <ignoramus10502@NOSPAM.10502.invalid> wrote in news:c8tku2
> $qti$0@pita.alt.net:
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>
> Any airport?

I would not call driving to the nearest airport, and parking, to be
"easy". A single parking fee would probably be more than the cost of
two cheap scales.

i
SnugBear - 26 May 2004 02:15 GMT
Ignoramus wrote:

> I would not call driving to the nearest airport, and parking, to be
> "easy". A single parking fee would probably be more than the cost of
> two cheap scales.

Awww, come on Ig - it was funny!  Imagine the amusement of airport
security when you tell them you're just there to use the scales?  (irony
or sarcasm? not sure which)

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Ignoramus20959 - 26 May 2004 03:57 GMT
> Ignoramus wrote:
>
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> security when you tell them you're just there to use the scales?  (irony
> or sarcasm? not sure which)

I did just that a long time ago, used baggage scales to weigh
myself. I did not own a scale then. So I did not realize that you were kidding.

i
Cynthia Perry - 26 May 2004 01:49 GMT
>Ignoramus10502 <ignoramus10502@NOSPAM.10502.invalid> wrote in news:c8tku2
>$qti$0@pita.alt.net:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Any airport?

Yeah, but the parking... 8^(

Wouldn't be my choice... plus, dunno about Carol, but I prefer to do
my weighing privately.

Cynthia
SnugBear - 26 May 2004 03:04 GMT
>>Ignoramus wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, I see, I misunderstood you. I wonder where may one find a baggage
>>> scale easily.

and I said:

>>Any airport?
>
> Yeah, but the parking... 8^(
>
> Wouldn't be my choice... plus, dunno about Carol, but I prefer to do
> my weighing privately.

I realize where I went wrong here - I forgot the wink  ;-)  

sigh

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jamie - 26 May 2004 21:11 GMT
> Oh, I see, I misunderstood you. I wonder where may one find a baggage
> scale easily. Would think that a $19.98 solution is still easier than
> finding a baggage scale periodically.

I had one friend who used the shipping scales at Sears or KMart,
until she got under 300.

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GaryG - 24 May 2004 22:03 GMT
> > >> >>What about buying two cheap 330 lbs scales, putting a board between
> > >> >>them, and stepping on the board? (feet close to one another) Add up
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Then he can use a baggage scale. Why spend all the money for that
> specialty scale when staying on the diet and exercising is what counts.

Many folks find motivation in the numbers.  I suspect this is especially
true for folks like the OP who are significantly obese.  Losing 5 lbs in a
month, for instance, is a quantifiable accomplishment that can help motivate
ongoing weight loss efforts, even if the results are not yet readily visible
in the mirror.

According to studies done by the National Weight Control Registry
(http://www.lifespan.org/services/bmed/wt_loss/nwcr/), frequent weighing has
been identified as one of the behaviors associated with successful long-term
weight loss.

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> Carol
SnugBear - 25 May 2004 01:48 GMT
"GaryG"  wrote:

> According to studies done by the National Weight Control Registry
> (http://www.lifespan.org/services/bmed/wt_loss/nwcr/), frequent
> weighing has been identified as one of the behaviors associated with
> successful long-term weight loss.

Worked for me.  I weighed myself ever day I was losing once I was past
the first couple months.  I loved seeing that number drop!  Once I
started maintenance though, it haunted me.  Now I only weigh myself on
Monday morning.  So it's still working, I guess.

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Carol Frilegh - 25 May 2004 06:12 GMT
> "GaryG"  wrote:
>
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> started maintenance though, it haunted me.  Now I only weigh myself on
> Monday morning.  So it's still working, I guess.

We had a morbidly obese member named claudia McCrary several years ago
who lost over two hundred pounds. Claudia chose to weigh only every few
months and was encouraged with her substantial losses using this
method.

Carol
Matty - 25 May 2004 14:56 GMT
> > > According to studies done by the National Weight Control Registry
> > > (http://www.lifespan.org/services/bmed/wt_loss/nwcr/), frequent
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Carol

Might want to check with doctor to see if there's a weight loss center in
the area that may have a scale. My doctor's assoc. has a center for health
excellence that they allow me to use.

I weigh in once a month since the scale is 40mi away. I tried the 2 scale
thing but I could never get it to work..

Matty
Heywood Mogroot - 25 May 2004 07:45 GMT
> "GaryG"  wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> started maintenance though, it haunted me.  Now I only weigh myself on
> Monday morning.  So it's still working, I guess.

I think the infamous "moving average" from Hacker's Diet can help
here, too.

Say you weigh in consistently at 150 for a week, so your average is
also 150.

Then one day for some reason 154 comes up on the scale. This is bad,
but the 25% moving average formula means that your moving average for
that day is only 151. Not so bad!
As long as the next day you come at 151 or less, your moving average
won't move up any more.

Water retention etc plays havoc with all weighing systems, but I can't
imagine not using daily weigh-ins with moving averages ever again.

The formula is:

Today's Average = Yesterday's Average + (Today's Weight - Yesterday's
Average) * 0.25.

The 0.25 is the factor that determines how fast the average tracks the
actual. A factor of 0.5 is very fast, while 0.1 results in a very slow
(IMO too laggardly) moving average.
Cynthia Perry - 26 May 2004 01:51 GMT
>Many folks find motivation in the numbers.  I suspect this is especially
>true for folks like the OP who are significantly obese.  Losing 5 lbs in a
>month, for instance, is a quantifiable accomplishment that can help motivate
>ongoing weight loss efforts, even if the results are not yet readily visible
>in the mirror.

I agree. I am better able to keep on track if I do weigh at least
weekly.

My husband has found that he is motivated by the good numbers he came
up with after a doctor visit.

>According to studies done by the National Weight Control Registry
>(http://www.lifespan.org/services/bmed/wt_loss/nwcr/), frequent weighing has
>been identified as one of the behaviors associated with successful long-term
>weight loss.

I always have my worst regains when I am NOT weighing, so I believe
that above statement may well be true. For me it is best to keep close
track of things before they get out of hand. Without a scale, they DO
get out of hand.

Cynthia
Heywood Mogroot - 23 May 2004 23:38 GMT
> Folks:
>
> So, if you have any information or opinions, I would be interested in
> hearing from you.

This is going to sound smart-alecky, but how about using two identical
digital scales, one for each foot?
DrumLib - 25 May 2004 20:25 GMT
> Now, I'm sure that most people in this group have not had the misfortune of
> needing a high capacity scale.  However, any information on manufacturers
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> but expensive.  Siltec is offering high capacity scales at reasonable
> prices.  About $270US for a their WS1000L scale.

When I lost enough weight that I could get around, a friend took me
once a month to the post office. They had a big platform scale that
went up to a 1000 pounds or so. That's one way to go, but it does get
old. Eventually, I got a Siltec WS1000L scale. It has worked perfectly
for many years.

http://www.balances.com/siltec/wsseries.html

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VirtualGuy - 27 May 2004 10:08 GMT
> So, if you have any information or opinions, I would be interested in
> hearing from you.

Folks:

I just wanted to thank everyone for their feedback regarding this thread.  
As it was pointed out in one of the messages, I failed to indicate what
high capacity meant.

For the purposes of this thread, high capacity would have to be 500-1000
pounds, which is why I am looking at the Siltec WS1000 scale.  I've read
information on the web that suggests that you should purchase a scale for
twice the capacity you want to weigh as most scales only have the ability
to accurately measure up to 1.25 times their maximum capacity.  
Therefore, a scale that measures 2.0 times it's maximum would, in theory,
be more accurate and less likely to break.

For reference:

I currently use the two scale method right now.  It's an adequate
solution for ballpark numbers, but I get a sense of accomplishment via
the numbers.  So, I want/need something more accurate.

For the 4 years that I have been using the two scale method, I haven't
really used the scales that much.  Maybe 1-2x a week.  However, they are
showing their age and breaking down.  So, instead of purchasing another
set of Health-o-meter scales for $50 a piece (CND funds), I would prefer
to invest in a decent, one scale solution that will last.

As for the luggage scale solution, I have to agree with Cynthia.  When it
comes to a person of my size and stature, I would prefer to weigh myself
in the privacy of my own home.  I have no interest in enduring the
embarassment and humilitation of weighing myself at such a facility.  I
don't want to become any more of a public spectacle that I already am.  
I'm funny that way.

So, hopefully this gives everyone some more insight into my issue.  I'm
more than happy to invest the funds into a decent and better solution.

Cheers!
   
       Alex

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